Byker Biker Posted Sunday at 09:00 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:00 AM On 3/15/2026 at 12:47 PM, TMW said: Who runs this forum these days ? Maybe there should be a Nora section so people could keep up to date with what’s on !! And maybe not if you look at the very public bickering on Social Media right now which makes the sport look juvenile. This is an example of why the BSPA/BSPL have rules and penalties not withstanding their opposition to Nomad teams run by well meaning amateurs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted Sunday at 03:18 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 03:18 PM 6 hours ago, Byker Biker said: And maybe not if you look at the very public bickering on Social Media right now which makes the sport look juvenile. This is an example of why the BSPA/BSPL have rules and penalties not withstanding their opposition to Nomad teams run by well meaning amateurs. What do you mean by this? I never understood why they banned 'nomad' teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHarris Posted Sunday at 05:58 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:58 PM 2 hours ago, *JJ said: What do you mean by this? I never understood why they banned 'nomad' teams. It's a tricky one but I do get why the BSPL lost patience and pulled the plug on them. Back when the MDL started in 2011/12 we accepted a few "nomadic teams" into the fold. It was good to begin with as it obviously provided a platform for younger riders to get more track time and it also provided a platform the those who were genuinely wanted to bring the sport back to places like Long Eaton for example. Some of the "ghost teams" were run by enthusiasts who above all wanted to put youth development first. Unfortunately other "ghost teams" were run by individuals who only cared about trophy's and winning at all costs to put it politely. These said individuals were not the most savoury of people either. The abuse we received from them was shocking. They were using older former NL riders to win meeting which although was within the rules if they didn't have a NL team place was completely against the ethos of the league. They were essentially playing fantasy speedway without having to pay the promotional costs and fees. This of course ruined it for the others. I think when Cradley packed in it gave the BSPL the perfect excuse to put a ban on nomad teams. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Sunday at 07:31 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:31 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, JamesHarris said: It's a tricky one but I do get why the BSPL lost patience and pulled the plug on them. Back when the MDL started in 2011/12 we accepted a few "nomadic teams" into the fold. It was good to begin with as it obviously provided a platform for younger riders to get more track time and it also provided a platform the those who were genuinely wanted to bring the sport back to places like Long Eaton for example. Some of the "ghost teams" were run by enthusiasts who above all wanted to put youth development first. Unfortunately other "ghost teams" were run by individuals who only cared about trophy's and winning at all costs to put it politely. These said individuals were not the most savoury of people either. The abuse we received from them was shocking. They were using older former NL riders to win meeting which although was within the rules if they didn't have a NL team place was completely against the ethos of the league. They were essentially playing fantasy speedway without having to pay the promotional costs and fees. This of course ruined it for the others. I think when Cradley packed in it gave the BSPL the perfect excuse to put a ban on nomad teams. I’ve just read the mess that’s been talked about on social media and I’ll say this, speedway never learns from its mistakes, maybe we should introduce a points system for anyone who wants to get involved, everyone starts at 5 points and you lose a point for every black mark against your name and when you down to 3 points you’re not allowed to run/promote any speedway team, some may say we wouldn’t have anybody left to promote/run any teams. Well that’s the point we keep getting bad wood Edited Sunday at 07:33 PM by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted Sunday at 08:41 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:41 PM 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I’ve just read the mess that’s been talked about on social media and I’ll say this, speedway never learns from its mistakes, maybe we should introduce a points system for anyone who wants to get involved, everyone starts at 5 points and you lose a point for every black mark against your name and when you down to 3 points you’re not allowed to run/promote any speedway team, some may say we wouldn’t have anybody left to promote/run any teams. Well that’s the point we keep getting bad wood Yeah same Dean, just caught up on the sorry mess! The individual involved has caused trouble wherever he has been and Mildenhall fans were warned when it was revealed as his name involved with the comeback bid. Let’s hope that now he’s resigned, the club and people left can carry on the good work and keep the momentum going. I read recently that former Kings Lynn promoter Alex Brady is the clubs new main sponsor, maybe he can get more involved as he spoke a lot of sense and had some good fresh ideas when he first went in at Kings Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Shaleman Posted yesterday at 05:43 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:43 PM Does NORA exercise any control over ‘promoters’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago On 4/12/2026 at 6:58 PM, JamesHarris said: It's a tricky one but I do get why the BSPL lost patience and pulled the plug on them. Back when the MDL started in 2011/12 we accepted a few "nomadic teams" into the fold. It was good to begin with as it obviously provided a platform for younger riders to get more track time and it also provided a platform the those who were genuinely wanted to bring the sport back to places like Long Eaton for example. Some of the "ghost teams" were run by enthusiasts who above all wanted to put youth development first. Unfortunately other "ghost teams" were run by individuals who only cared about trophies and winning at all costs to put it politely. These said individuals were not the most savoury of people either. The abuse we received from them was shocking. They were using older former NL riders to win meeting which although was within the rules if they didn't have a NL team place was completely against the ethos of the league. They were essentially playing fantasy speedway without having to pay the promotional costs and fees. This of course ruined it for the others. I think when Cradley packed in it gave the BSPL the perfect excuse to put a ban on nomad teams. Just about all of the MDL teams, including those attached to senior teams, were run by 'enthusiasts' in my experience (which was 10 years ago now). I don't think that I came across the person you refer to: just about all of of the riders I saw were young hopefuls. People on this forum are always moaning about the shortage of riders, but IMO the destruction of the MDL has only contributed to this. Provide the opportunities and the riders will turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, *JJ said: Just about all of the MDL teams, including those attached to senior teams, were run by 'enthusiasts' in my experience (which was 10 years ago now). I don't think that I came across the person you refer to: just about all of of the riders I saw were young hopefuls. People on this forum are always moaning about the shortage of riders, but IMO the destruction of the MDL has only contributed to this. Provide the opportunities and the riders will turn up. I agree with your opinion and many, many parents and helpers were focused on track time for their charges but with the exception of a minority these virtual "clubs" were awash with egos. As I mentioned previously well intentioned, sorry I wasn't ignoring your previous post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 16 hours ago, Son of Shaleman said: Does NORA exercise any control over ‘promoters’? When has Nora Battey ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago On 4/13/2026 at 6:43 PM, Son of Shaleman said: Does NORA exercise any control over ‘promoters’? Nora are only like the acu, they have no say in any speedway matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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