Bandits v Tigers, BSN Series, 18/04/26

[Beirao]

40 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

This is the realistic view.

Anyone looking for Mario to be another Villads will be disappointed. He's not. Villads is an elite prospect, an established SGP2 rider and an SGP3 medallist. Mario is not. Yes, he has a team medal, but that's from one meeting where yes, he did really well, but you also need to keep it in perspective.

If you compare Villads to Mario in the Polish league last year, there's a big difference. In the second tier, Villads was 7th in the averages, Mario was 35th. Converting to British style averages, Mario averaged 4, Villads averaged 7.4. Villads also comes from Denmark, and their tracks and climate is a much more natural transition for a rider coming to Britain.

None of this is to say Mario is a bad signing. I always saw it as a risk, and a much bigger risk than Kevin Juhl Pedersen, but one well worth making. What matters is his progression come August/September. He will struggle at some tracks, but the hope is that he learns and comes back stronger next time he sees them. I'm sure he'll be fine at home once he's had a few race meetings too, which is always different to practice.

Give the guy a chance, but don't build him up to be something he was never going to be either.

With the league looking so competitive this year, I'm not sure we can wait till August. Indeed making the playoffs isn't a given. Edinburgh and Berwick are likely to be the only tracks he sees twice.

[alang]

1 hour ago, kerry said:

I'm not sure it would have changed much. The points don't reflect, but I do think Hagon looked more competitive than Hodder last night.

Edit -

I also think Howarth should have gone off 15m than replace with Hodder in H9.

Might be wrong but I thought that as Howarth had been warned for moving in heat 4 then again in heat 9 two warnings mean disqualified from heat without option of 15 m so that would be why Hodder was in.

 

[Fromafar]

I’m pretty sure that Reid won heat 2 last night.George Dodds has that one wrong.

Edited Sunday at 10:53 AM by Fromafar

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

Was there something wrong with the speakers on the back straight?

The old boy next to us couldn’t hear a thing. I struggled, but had to give him the times after most heats.

I think Shielfield’s one of the only tracks where even without a great deal of passing, the racings exciting. Seeing riders navigate those top two bends is superb.

[Mgas]

1 hour ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Was there something wrong with the speakers on the back straight?

The old boy next to us couldn’t hear a thing. I struggled, but had to give him the times after most heats.

I think Shielfield’s one of the only tracks where even without a great deal of passing, the racings exciting. Seeing riders navigate those top two bends is superb.

Speakers on the home straight were crap also have been for at least two years. I don’t know who’s responsibility they are but maybe some joint fundraising between the football clubs and the speedway is needed to replace some of the older kit. I’m no good at organisation but would happily help out if it means we can hear the results and times.

[tyler42]

15 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

You win some, you lose some. Well done to the Bandits who were deserved winners.

I’m a bit lost for words for Battye. That’s the best debut I’ve ever seen. That assertiveness to shut the door on Howarth in heat four was of established heat leader calibre; not a young man making his debut.

Bitterly disappointing from Hagon and Hausl. Hodder’s 3+1 exceeds what’s expected of him, IMO, and holding off Morris in heat four was a point we had no right accounting for. Harris has more than earned ann off day, but the other three desperately need to contribute.

Patience is key, but after three meetings, alarm bells are ringing for Hausl. Of course, I hope he comes good, but he’s so far off it; spectacularly poor, heat one aside. My heart says he’ll come good, but my head says he’ll be gone by mid-May.

When I said the same thing about Hausl, you replied to my post, as shown below. I thought after I posted my comments that maybe I was a bit harsh on him, considering how tight the Edinburgh track is. I half expected I would have to eat my words after the Berwick meeting. Knowing a big track would have suited him better. The updates said he had a great 1st ride. What happened in his other two? Things won't get easier for him. Up next, Plymouth. Another very small track. You're correct in your assessment of the two reserves. Hagon should really be kicking on now. Third full season in Division Two. Berwick was his home track last year. I thought he would have been your match winner. As for Hodder. imo he will have some half-decent meetings, but he doesn't look like he has improved that much from last season. Early days, though.

Edited Sunday at 02:14 PM by tyler42

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

12 minutes ago, tyler42 said:

When I said the same thing about Hausl, you replied to my post, as shown below. I thought after I posted my comments that maybe I was a bit harsh on him, considering how tight the Edinburgh track is. I half expected I would have to eat my words after the Berwick meeting. Knowing a big track would have suited him better. The updates said he had a great 1st ride. What happened in his other two? Things won't get easier for him. Up next, Plymouth. Another very small track. You're correct in your assessment of the two reserves. Hagon should really be kicking on now. Third full season in Division Two. Berwick was his home track last year. I thought he would have been your match winner. As for Hodder. imo he will have some half-decent meetings, but he doesn't look like he has improved that much from last season. Early days, though.

You said he won’t be around for long after three races; I said we must be patient and I hope he comes good, but alarm bells are ringing after three meetings. A slight difference.😂

[Bandit59]

1 hour ago, Mgas said:

Speakers on the home straight were crap also have been for at least two years. I don’t know who’s responsibility they are but maybe some joint fundraising between the football clubs and the speedway is needed to replace some of the older kit. I’m no good at organisation but would happily help out if it means we can hear the results and times.

Don't know if it was the microphone or the speakers couldn't hear a thing on the back straight either, really needs sorting out.

[Mgas]

9 minutes ago, tyler42 said:

When I said the same thing about Hausl, you replied to my post, as shown below. I thought after I posted my comments that maybe I was a bit harsh on him, considering how tight the Edinburgh track is. I half expected I would have to eat my words after the Berwick meeting. Knowing a big track would have suited him better. The updates said he had a great 1st ride. What happened in his other two? Things won't get easier for him. Up next, Plymouth. Another very small track. You're correct in your assessment of the two reserves. Hagon should really be kicking on now. Third full season in Division Two. Berwick was his home track last year. I thought he would have been your match winner. As for Hodder. imo he will have some half-decent meetings, but he doesn't look like he has improved that much from last season. Early days, though.

I have to admit I was a little worried about Sam coming back to Berwick as a reserve, as he was supposed to be last season. I had half thought he could have been the match winner for Glasgow. He had a few really high points as a bandit and I expected him to be a real danger as a tigers reserve. He does have the talent and I expected (still do) him to shine at reserve. Possibly lacking a little confidence after being thrust into the main team last year? I guess it comes down to how much patience Glasgow has for him.

[Bandit59]

3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

I’m pretty sure that Reid won heat 2 last night.George Dodds has that one wrong.

He was that far in front George probably never seen him 😀

[Mgas]

5 minutes ago, Bandit59 said:

Don't know if it was the microphone or the speakers couldn't hear a thing on the back straight either, really needs sorting out.

We always sit at the same place, the first group of seat in the grandstands close to the loo as my dads legs aren’t great and the speaker cuts in and out intermittently and has for a while.

Edited Sunday at 02:33 PM by Mgas

[tyler42]

7 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

You said he won’t be around for long after three races; I said we must be patient and I hope he comes good, but alarm bells are ringing after three meetings. A slight difference.😂

btw, can you show me where I quoted he would only last three races? I've looked in Hansard, but can't seem to find it😉

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

Speakers been poor for a long time on back straight unfortunately.

Reid Battye has made himself a fans favourite on home debut, fantastic from him. Solid from Jye and PK, should be a strong partnership if Dickson stays with them. Palovaara done his job on paper over the weekend, but having went to both meetings, I thought he was fairly poor, but consistently beat who he should, maybe I’m being a tad harsh? Decent opening weekend, the next two weeks will see if we can get through either of the cups.

[mac101]

Berwick Track was the slickest I have ever seen it so passing was very minimum and you had to make a start or your stuck whatever position you come out the second bent Bomber not scoring much  didn’t help as he is usually good for at least 10-12 points 

[Bandit59]

7 hours ago, Fromafar said:

I’m pretty sure that Reid won heat 2 last night.George Dodds has that one wrong.

All sorted now 

[Whitelinehugger]

3 hours ago, Bandit59 said:

Don't know if it was the microphone or the speakers couldn't hear a thing on the back straight either, really needs sorting out.

Did you have your hearing aid in. Your forever leaving it at home

[Mgas]

39 minutes ago, mac101 said:

Berwick Track was the slickest I have ever seen it so passing was very minimum and you had to make a start or your stuck whatever position you come out the second bent Bomber not scoring much  didn’t help as he is usually good for at least 10-12 points 

It was forecast for showers so I think the track was prepared intentionally dry. I don’t think they expected to have to do much watering. Regardless it worked to the home advantage which is always the aim.

just to add the track team know exactly what bomber likes as they did spend a year preparing the track for him, so well done to them for their part in nullifying that threat.

Edited Sunday at 06:41 PM by Mgas

[tyretrax]

6 hours ago, Mgas said:

Speakers on the home straight were crap also have been for at least two years. I don’t know who’s responsibility they are but maybe some joint fundraising between the football clubs and the speedway is needed to replace some of the older kit. I’m no good at organisation but would happily help out if it means we can hear the results and times.

I heard, not over the PA, that it's two separate systems.

[crescent girl]

6 hours ago, Mgas said:

Speakers on the home straight were crap also have been for at least two years. I don’t know who’s responsibility they are but maybe some joint fundraising between the football clubs and the speedway is needed to replace some of the older kit. I’m no good at organisation but would happily help out if it means we can hear the results and times.

Loudspeaking system at Shielfield is (unfortunately) in the control of football club.  Has been for many years.   Every effort by various speedway promotions to improve or augment it have been largely unsuccessful.  Speedway has an excellent sound input unit, good-quality microphones and other good gear -- but the sound still has to pass through, and out of, the stadium's speakers, which speedway can't access.....

Edited Sunday at 06:55 PM by crescent girl

[Robinh88]

51 minutes ago, mac101 said:

Berwick Track was the slickest I have ever seen it so passing was very minimum and you had to make a start or your stuck whatever position you come out the second bent Bomber not scoring much  didn’t help as he is usually good for at least 10-12 points 

I would imagine this will continue throughout the season in terms of tracks being slick when Bomber visits.

Yes it was slick but at least it was safe unlike Redcar.