Youhave2minutes Posted Wednesday at 05:53 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:53 PM 6 hours ago, IainB said: Re-arranged: July 6th 1 home match since May the 4th, next home match July 2nd! Ridiculous. A part time sport/Hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted Wednesday at 06:02 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:02 PM As others have said with current crowd numbers, No mainstream TV deal and costs of travel now clubs have to make early decisions based on a variety of weather forecasts. Quite a few Leicester fans on here and on Facebook complain about these call offs but these are the same people that if drizzling at 4-5pm Thursday night then don’t come Speedway anyway. I don’t believe any fans like standing in the rain with long track work delays then watching slow boring strung out races. Nearly all forecasts are showing significant rainfall on Thursday some saying up to 7cms onto an already wet and waterlogged track if the meeting had been tonight it would have been called off 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM 1 hour ago, Teromaafan said: Sorry to disappoint you but the gold fish racing championship has been called off, course waterlogged apparently🫤 Tanked out again. Can no one cope with water😅 An island surrounded by water as it would be and gold fish following speedway riders by not even giving it a go, no hope for sport in this country. I’m off to the Sahara desert for a bit of sand racing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted Wednesday at 06:35 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:35 PM 18 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: Tanked out again. Can no one cope with water😅 An island surrounded by water as it would be and gold fish following speedway riders by not even giving it a go, no hope for sport in this country. I’m off to the Sahara desert for a bit of sand racing. There would still be a danger of Phil Morris over watering the racing surface (with camel p*ss?) during inevitable mammoth sun breaks 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted Wednesday at 06:36 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:36 PM Pussy sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Wednesday at 07:03 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:03 PM 19 minutes ago, Teromaafan said: There would still be a danger of Phil Morris over watering the racing surface (with camel p*ss?) during inevitable mammoth sun breaks 😎 They do not understand the talent planning to attend, Tanker tail fin, bruiser dorsal fin, bugsey gills alongside handsome predator pike and dodgy lend me your maggots perch with substitutes Roach and Gudgeon and you have a first class field. What is Phil Morris’s problem. Has he ever discussed it with BFRA. No wonder the sport is in a tail spin. I’m off to watch a spot of worm aerobics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Wednesday at 07:10 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:10 PM (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: They do not understand the talent planning to attend, Tanker tail fin, bruiser dorsal fin, bugsey gills alongside handsome predator pike and dodgy lend me your maggots perch with substitutes Roach and Gudgeon and you have a first class field. What is Phil Morris’s problem. Has he ever discussed it with BFRA. No wonder the sport is in a tail spin. I’m off to watch a spot of worm aerobics. Mark Lemon Sole might be interested?... And Mike Bass(t).. Edited Wednesday at 07:11 PM by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Wednesday at 07:30 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:30 PM 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: Mark Lemon Sole might be interested?... And Mike Bass(t).. Tried them but dog fish O’Leary and Salmon Slicer Fillets are the main sponsors who can possibly override any decision by Snatcher Neil Thatcher and the rest of the BSPL. Mayfield might take the line on this but do the ledgers add up. My money is on a float your boat followed by barbless hook two protagonists who are always up for a bit of ground baiting to reel in the punters. We have a chance of turning this around but hammerhead could be a stumbling block, however shrimp o scallop and winkle prawn could be outsiders with the roe to make a difference. I will get in contact with squid malone, he knows every marine mafia. Until then let’s keep this under water . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted Wednesday at 07:35 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:35 PM 7 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Absolute disgrace. Should have been given till atleast 3pm tomorrow before the call-off. Leicester should be investigated. I wouldn't be going anyway, in fact I'd never be going to this but on the British Speedway Forum, my opinion, and only my opinion matters. Proper shady this?!? Hopefully the BSPL award Ipswich the 3 points. I drove through 20cm of water in Rothley at 13:45 today about 4 miles from the track as the cow fly’s. On the way back I passed through Beaumont Leys and it was very wet. It would appear a great early call off stopping both clubs picking up airfares and other additional costs that would happen with a later call off. Great call by the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Wednesday at 07:56 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:56 PM Just now, W9 Lion said: I drove through 20cm of water in Rothley at 13:45 today about 4 miles from the track as the cow fly’s. On the way back I passed through Beaumont Leys and it was very wet. It would appear a great early call off stopping both clubs picking up airfares and other additional costs that would happen with a later call off. Great call by the club Ipswich to Leicester would for mostly be by road and no airport exists within a thirty mile radius of Ipswich town so saving on flights is a little bit of an exaggeration. 😀 The problem with the sport in this country is that it employs riders who are hell bent on topping up earnings they make from the European clubs and it is these clubs that provide them with a living and they are not going to take risks that could jeopardise the overseas earnings. British speedway is in the invidious position of failing to offer a competitive form of entertainment because of the participants ultimate goal and it insists on pandering to a bunch of jerks who fly in and out of the UK ripping off UK punters. If anyone believes UK speedway is a viable proposition and stacks up then take a look at every overseas rider who plié’s their trade here and ask yourself do they care about the the UK supporters who partly put money in the pockets of these rip off merchants and will they go the extra mile to ride and entertain. The answer is no. Few punters buy the call off’s and the saving money excuses any longer. It is not a sport but a past time funded by a few soles who use it as a hobby and rely on the die hards to make it work in part for the profit and loss account. How anyone can make money running a business along the lines of UK speedway with a model that gives no control or management to the club owners is up with the fairies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Wednesday at 08:03 PM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:03 PM (edited) 40 minutes ago, W9 Lion said: I drove through 20cm of water in Rothley at 13:45 today about 4 miles from the track as the cow fly’s. On the way back I passed through Beaumont Leys and it was very wet. It would appear a great early call off stopping both clubs picking up airfares and other additional costs that would happen with a later call off. Great call by the club However great the call proves to be it still leaves the Lions having only ridden 1 home match in 2 months! And only 4 home matches in 3 months by the end of June! And 2 of them against Sheffield! Edited Wednesday at 08:16 PM by IainB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted Wednesday at 09:14 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 09:14 PM 1 hour ago, Hawk127 said: Ipswich to Leicester would for mostly be by road and no airport exists within a thirty mile radius of Ipswich town so saving on flights is a little bit of an exaggeration. 😀 The problem with the sport in this country is that it employs riders who are hell bent on topping up earnings they make from the European clubs and it is these clubs that provide them with a living and they are not going to take risks that could jeopardise the overseas earnings. British speedway is in the invidious position of failing to offer a competitive form of entertainment because of the participants ultimate goal and it insists on pandering to a bunch of jerks who fly in and out of the UK ripping off UK punters. If anyone believes UK speedway is a viable proposition and stacks up then take a look at every overseas rider who plié’s their trade here and ask yourself do they care about the the UK supporters who partly put money in the pockets of these rip off merchants and will they go the extra mile to ride and entertain. The answer is no. Few punters buy the call off’s and the saving money excuses any longer. It is not a sport but a past time funded by a few soles who use it as a hobby and rely on the die hards to make it work in part for the profit and loss account. How anyone can make money running a business along the lines of UK speedway with a model that gives no control or management to the club owners is up with the fairies. And some of the riders who fly in and fly out are the first ones to make a fuss if the tracks are a wet or not to their likings and then refuse to ride so meetings get called off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted Wednesday at 09:33 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 09:33 PM 5 hours ago, mikebv said: It just shows the state the sport is in these days.... Almost zero margin for error... And is this a track owned by those who run Leicester?... If so, no rent to pay, yet still being cautious due to all the other costs involved... Does "Absence make the heart grow fonder?".... Meaning such long gaps between meetings result in good crowds due to missing the sport?... Or will it be more "out of sight, out of mind"?, and crowd numbers suffer?... Or, are we now solely down to the die hards only who turn up whenever, and accept whatever is put in front of them?.. If ever a sport needed a huge injection of cash, it is UK Speedway... Who from though? Given its inherent flaws and issues, is the several million dollar question... With the lack of action this season due to three weeks between home meetings and postponements at the drop of a hat even the die hards will find other interests going to be some woeful crowds i think, especially with the world cup about to start. This season the sport has hit rock bottom, can it survive? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Wednesday at 09:55 PM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 09:55 PM 20 minutes ago, bellevueace said: This season the sport has hit rock bottom, can it survive? Not in its current form, but then we've all known that for at least the last 7 or 8 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted Thursday at 06:52 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:52 AM 11 hours ago, W9 Lion said: I drove through 20cm of water in Rothley at 13:45 today about 4 miles from the track as the cow fly’s. On the way back I passed through Beaumont Leys and it was very wet. It would appear a great early call off stopping both clubs picking up airfares and other additional costs that would happen with a later call off. Great call by the club You have to watch out for those flying cows. Awful mess if one of them craps on you. 💩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted Thursday at 06:52 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:52 AM 10 hours ago, Hawk127 said: Ipswich to Leicester would for mostly be by road and no airport exists within a thirty mile radius of Ipswich town so saving on flights is a little bit of an exaggeration. 😀 The problem with the sport in this country is that it employs riders who are hell bent on topping up earnings they make from the European clubs and it is these clubs that provide them with a living and they are not going to take risks that could jeopardise the overseas earnings. British speedway is in the invidious position of failing to offer a competitive form of entertainment because of the participants ultimate goal and it insists on pandering to a bunch of jerks who fly in and out of the UK ripping off UK punters. If anyone believes UK speedway is a viable proposition and stacks up then take a look at every overseas rider who plié’s their trade here and ask yourself do they care about the the UK supporters who partly put money in the pockets of these rip off merchants and will they go the extra mile to ride and entertain. The answer is no. Few punters buy the call off’s and the saving money excuses any longer. It is not a sport but a past time funded by a few soles who use it as a hobby and rely on the die hards to make it work in part for the profit and loss account. How anyone can make money running a business along the lines of UK speedway with a model that gives no control or management to the club owners is up with the fairies. Ok, so whilst your post is made up of generalised assumptions & accusations the plain fact is that in this instance come the intended start time the track at Leicester will be unavoidably unridable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Thursday at 08:24 AM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:24 AM 52 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Ok, so whilst your post is made up of generalised assumptions & accusations the plain fact is that in this instance come the intended start time the track at Leicester will be unavoidably unridable. I think the general point is the lack of fixtures, we all understand calling a meeting off based on a dreadful forecast, that is the common sense thing to do, it's the huge gaps in the fixture list that these postponements cause. Back in the day a track would have an "off" race night that fixtures would be quickly rearranged for, if we're not going to do 1 point each and move on, which I understand is not popular with everybody maybe the PL should take a leaf from Sweden and Denmark and just run on the one night Monday or Thursday, If Monday is washed out you run on the following Thursday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted Thursday at 08:45 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:45 AM 11 minutes ago, IainB said: I think the general point is the lack of fixtures, we all understand calling a meeting off based on a dreadful forecast, that is the common sense thing to do, it's the huge gaps in the fixture list that these postponements cause. Back in the day a track would have an "off" race night that fixtures would be quickly rearranged for, if we're not going to do 1 point each and move on, which I understand is not popular with everybody maybe the PL should take a leaf from Sweden and Denmark and just run on the one night Monday or Thursday, If Monday is washed out you run on the following Thursday. But, if the answer to meetings being postponed is to award a point to each team rather than rearranging the fixture, then this would result in even less meetings and larger gaps between those that do take place. In this instance Lions & Ipswich have promptly rearranged the fixture so no real issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Thursday at 08:58 AM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:58 AM (edited) 36 minutes ago, 1 valve said: But, if the answer to meetings being postponed is to award a point to each team rather than rearranging the fixture, then this would result in even less meetings and larger gaps between those that do take place. In this instance Lions & Ipswich have promptly rearranged the fixture so no real issue. It would incentivise clubs to get matches on though and not call matches off days in advance based on a weather forecast that could be wrong (as they often are) safe in the knowledge that there's loads of blank Monday's and Thursdays left in the calendar (until there aren't). To have only staged 4 home matches in a spring that has been 23% drier than normal is frankly ridiculous for a sporting league organisation. ... and to those that oppose the 1 point each and move on solution with the what happens to season ticket holders argument... Leicester have rearranged the Ippo fixture for July the 6th, bang in the middle of holiday season where many, I included, will be unable to attend due to a booked holiday on what was a blank week in the home fixture list. Edited Thursday at 09:24 AM by IainB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted Thursday at 11:25 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:25 AM No club should have a blank week, the fixtures should either state the opponent or state the date as reserved rain off, if there is no meetings to catch up on then there is no meeting, if any home meeting has been called off, they will use the first available reserved rain off date. Further to that, if any club has not completed all its home matches at the cut off date, those meetings are automatically awarded to the away teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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