Ipswich Witches 2027

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1 hour ago, DJC said:

So is the only reason for the Wroclaw deal to get Bewley? I thought it was going to help get the u21 rider over to Ipswich, not just poach Cairns from BV as the u21 - if you go from the rumours and suggested teams in this thread.

You would have hoped the tie up would see Ipswich open the door to Polish riders who would therefore improve the quality of our top division. To see them take two ex Colts is disappointing and more a vindication of our development program (others take note). Once again it’s over promise and under deliver from another in a long line of here today gone tomorrow promoters skilled in talking the talk but lacking in positive actions. Self interested glory hunters, like we need more of them. 

[SPEEDY69]

10 minutes ago, ouch said:

You would have hoped the tie up would see Ipswich open the door to Polish riders who would therefore improve the quality of our top division  Polish riders. To see them take two ex Colts is disappointing and more a vindication of our development program (others take note). Once again it’s over promise and under deliver from another in a long line of here today gone tomorrow promoters skilled in talking the talk but lacking in positive actions. Self interested glory hunters, like we need more of them. 

Just a small revision 🙂.

Edited 3 hours ago by SPEEDY69

[Baldyman]

Hasn't there got to be 2 under 21s? Meaning 1 could still be a Wroclaw under 21

[DJC]

36 minutes ago, Aries said:

IF we’ve signed Cairns we haven’t “poached” him from anyone. He’s currently out of contract (unless he’s signed one for 2027).

It's the same response as Poole got for taking Rushen and Cairns and all the others who they've played no part in helping develop as soon as they become good enough. 

He came from the colts into the Aces, its a shame for the Aces that he is probably leaving when he should be their RS next season

[PhilTheAce]

4 minutes ago, DJC said:

It's the same response as Poole got for taking Rushen and Cairns and all the others who they've played no part in helping develop as soon as they become good enough. 

He came from the colts into the Aces, its a shame for the Aces that he is probably leaving when he should be their RS next season

they chased the money, we couldnt compete, like i always say, we are probably the lowest payers in league but let ipswich fans tell you otherwise anyway. 

 

good luck to them, end of the day you will always go to the highest bidder. it will just make the defeat of ipswich at NSS so much sweeter 

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, PhilTheAce said:

they chased the money, we couldnt compete, like i always say, we are probably the lowest payers in league but let ipswich fans tell you otherwise anyway. 

 

good luck to them, end of the day you will always go to the highest bidder. it will just make the defeat of ipswich at NSS so much sweeter 

A unique sport (in the UK), where everyone basically becomes "free agents" every year...

Meaning of course they then can freely seek out better terms elsewhere, or, to keep them, you have to at least match those better terms, which then adds to your budgeted costs, which may be unaffordable...

People talk about development of riders, but as they often have two teams on the go from an early age, (more if they are clearly going to be any good), then no one team can really say that they were responsible for any riders development...

And, of course, some will mention loyalty, however, in UK Speedway you could ride for every other team in your league over a season, therefore loyalty to any particular club would be a difficult concept to be seen as integral in UK Speedway...

Especially as you can lose your place in any team for doing "too well" if your new average allows your team to replace you with someone they see as being better at that figure ..

If Dan leaves the Aces, (he already has as the season has ended), then good luck to him...

The only loyalty I would suggest he has in Speedway is to the Polish teams that have paid the considerable amount for his rehab when he has suffered serious injury...

Even when the injuries happened elsewhere...

It would be good for the UK to have him riding over here given he can be so exciting to watch...

Edited 1 hour ago by mikebv

[Aries]

1 hour ago, DJC said:

It's the same response as Poole got for taking Rushen and Cairns and all the others who they've played no part in helping develop as soon as they become good enough. 

He came from the colts into the Aces, its a shame for the Aces that he is probably leaving when he should be their RS next season

Why should he ffs? 😂 Riders aren’t objects that people own just like you or me aren’t owned by our employers we’re all free to work wherever we like. This ain’t 1940. The abolishment of “assets” was long overdue. Riders come and go all over the place and people need to understand that it’s all very short term, season to season. 
 

So in your view, because he rode for the Colts, he should be forced to stay at Belle Vue again next year?

Every meeting could be a riders last and they’re in their right to go with whomever offers them the best deal. You, me and every Belle Vue fan would do exactly the same 🙄

[gjcone44]

25 minutes ago, Aries said:

Why should he ffs? 😂 Riders aren’t objects that people own just like you or me aren’t owned by our employers we’re all free to work wherever we like. This ain’t 1940. The abolishment of “assets” was long overdue. Riders come and go all over the place and people need to understand that it’s all very short term, season to season. 
 

So in your view, because he rode for the Colts, he should be forced to stay at Belle Vue again next year?

Every meeting could be a riders last and they’re in their right to go with whomever offers them the best deal. You, me and every Belle Vue fan would do exactly the same 🙄

but there is the problem with team sports, especially speedway no wonder the fan base of teams is dropping 

[DJC]

5 minutes ago, Aries said:

Why should he ffs? 😂 Riders aren’t objects that people own just like you or me aren’t owned by our employers we’re all free to work wherever we like. This ain’t 1940. The abolishment of “assets” was long overdue. Riders come and go all over the place and people need to understand that it’s all very short term, season to season. 
 

So in your view, because he rode for the Colts, he should be forced to stay at Belle Vue again next year?

Every meeting could be a riders last and they’re in their right to go with whomever offers them the best deal. You, me and every Belle Vue fan would do exactly the same 🙄

Then no complaints about loyalty, teams loosing winning sides, guests riding for clubs that hamper their own clubs chances of play offs can be made going forward. They are all in it for themselves, bin of the league and just have individual competitions held at each club, lets see how long speedway lasts over here. 

 

12 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

but there is the problem with team sports, especially speedway no wonder the fan base of teams is dropping 

This! 

 

[gjcone44]

wonder how long football would last it 50% of their teams changed every year.