Witches1998 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: The same rulebook also stats; "010.2.1 - Any rider returning to British Speedway on an established MA, achieved prior to 2024 will establish an updated MA after completing 6 applicable meetings." Speedway forum subscription "010.2.3 - With the approval of the BSP LTD GC or Directors." It's not guaranteed a reassessment will be issued or the assessment table being used. Thats referring to them getting an actual average once the seasons going. They will come back assessed according to the chart and after 6 applicable meetings then earn an actual average. Which may be sooner or later than the end of a month when new averages are issued across the board. Since '24 everyone returning has been assessed, janowski, kildemand etc etc I dont see why this will be any different and according to the stars fan on the other forum the rumoured ipswich team would need him to be the 4.50 to fit Let's wait and see, we have only actually announced king so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago It’s a sad state when we’re all debating what average Kim comes back on. I said it before if it’s Nilsson I’ll be disappointed, a 36 year old who hasn’t riden in the uk for 10 years & rode in the polish 3rd tier last year. Same with Riss Not the exciting box office youngster we were expecting. Colemans interview hinted at a couple of star under 21 riders hopefully Carines & the other will be in place of Nilsson/Riss in the suggested line up. Still time for Rushen to move over the border. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur73 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 11 hours ago, Aries said: Doyle 8.62 Riss 5.05 King 7.17 Nilsson Bewley 8.56 Cairns 3.00 Foord RS Pretty sure this is the team that is/will be declared. There’s 4.6 left to fit in Nilsson. Either the club also believe he’s 4.50 going by the current regulations, or Coleman didn’t make a mistake in his recent interview and he’s playing by his own rules and building to 40 whilst everyone else is building to 37 😁 I do really like this team however not sure about Erik Riss. I do feel sorry for him about his illness but at the end of the day it is a big risk factor for Ipswich. Drew Kemp is a much better, younger pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTRSports Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Riss or Kemp? Both are risks, if you take aside the illness then I'm sure 99 out of 100 you pick Riss and the 1 is Kemps mother. If it is Rissk then as mentioned on here you have to have a back up plan in your team No matter how happy people were to see Danny back I'd have gone with Brennan over Danny, if Nilsson is a 4.5 then yes, and would have allowed for a much stronger rider over Riss/Kemp etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Can't whack a couple of points on someone's assessed average purely based on them having a great night in a one off meeting. It's the GP qualifying criteria that's silly because any half decent rider is capable of having a good night on the bike to a point where they find themselves in the GP's. Nilsson has been riding in the lowest Polish tier for Landshut along with riders like Leon Flint, Erik Riss, Charles Wright. Other riders in that League are Thorssell, Masters, Lahti and co. which is British engine room standard. This year Mayfield were rumoured to sign Thorssell at one stage on a 4.50 and as I highlighted last night Oxford signed Gusts on a 4.50 in 2025 while Nilsson doesn't meet criteria's mentioned in the 2026 rule book. Therefore everything points towards 4.50 even if I admit that it's a little on the low side. Edited 3 hours ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago On 11/7/2026 at 8:29 AM, Diamonds85 said: Or what about Francis Gusts? He'd be on a 3.00 average and he has links to Wroclaw... I know he wasn't amazing for Oxford, but surely he's only going to increase that average as he's seen every track multiple times now (Except Northampton) He's a great rider on the continent, so once he gets more settled surely he'll be better. If he could ride at no 6, I think he'd be worth a shot. But if he has to ride in the top 5 due to being over 21, I wouldn't take him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) If Belle Vue for example try to block a move for a 4.50 Nilsson. Then Ipswich should block a Belle Vue move for Pawelczak on a 6.00. Introduce a new rule in 2027 that states all non-GP top tier Polish League riders will be given a minimum 7.00 assessed average due to them being classed as part of the Elite. Pettiness can work both ways. Edited 3 hours ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 hours ago, Aries said: Doyle 8.62 Riss 5.05 King 7.17 Nilsson Bewley 8.56 Cairns 3.00 Foord RS Pretty sure this is the team that is/will be declared. There’s 4.6 left to fit in Nilsson. Either the club also believe he’s 4.50 going by the current regulations, or Coleman didn’t make a mistake in his recent interview and he’s playing by his own rules and building to 40 whilst everyone else is building to 37 😁 If this is to be the Ipswich team then it’s another tick on my Coleman BS bingo card. Coleman has stated the need for younger teams as his top five last year had an average age of 37. This year by sticking to his principles he has managed to get it down to 36. Little wonder he has raided the Belle Vue Babes in an attempt to get his total team average down. They do say imitation is the best form of flattery. Thank you Richard. One interesting quote on the 360 Podcast. “stressed that if the sport doesn't make an active, interventionist decision to "plant the tree today," it has no future” What I wasn’t expecting was rather than plant the tree he decided to rip one up from another garden and plant it in his. Top guy. Stay tuned for more Coleman BS bingo to follow. Get yer dobbers out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 hours ago, Aries said: Doyle 8.62 Riss 5.05 King 7.17 Nilsson Bewley 8.56 Cairns 3.00 Foord RS Pretty sure this is the team that is/will be declared. There’s 4.6 left to fit in Nilsson. Either the club also believe he’s 4.50 going by the current regulations, or Coleman didn’t make a mistake in his recent interview and he’s playing by his own rules and building to 40 whilst everyone else is building to 37 😁 If this is to be the Ipswich team then it’s another tick on my Coleman BS bingo card. Coleman has stated the need for younger teams as his top five last year had an average age of 37. This year by sticking to his principles he has managed to get it down to 36. Little wonder he has raided the Belle Vue Babes in an attempt to get his total team average down. They do say imitation is the best form of flattery. Thank you Richard. One interesting quote on the 360 Podcast. “stressed that if the sport doesn't make an active, interventionist decision to "plant the tree today," it has no future” What I wasn’t expecting was rather than plant the tree he decided to rip one up from another garden and plant it in his. Top guy. Stay tuned for more Coleman BS bingo to follow. Get yer dobbers out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witches1998 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 14 minutes ago, ouch said: If this is to be the Ipswich team then it’s another tick on my Coleman BS bingo card. Coleman has stated the need for younger teams as his top five last year had an average age of 37. This year by sticking to his principles he has managed to get it down to 36. Little wonder he has raided the Belle Vue Babes in an attempt to get his total team average down. They do say imitation is the best form of flattery. Thank you Richard. One interesting quote on the 360 Podcast. “stressed that if the sport doesn't make an active, interventionist decision to "plant the tree today," it has no future” What I wasn’t expecting was rather than plant the tree he decided to rip one up from another garden and plant it in his. Top guy. Stay tuned for more Coleman BS bingo to follow. Get yer dobbers out. Doyle 41, Bewley 27, King 40, Riss 31, Nilsson 36, Cairns 17 and Foord 20 I make that average 30. Even if you discount the rising star its 32 not 36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witches1998 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Cant just do 5, do the whole team I know you're a troll but come on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, Witches1998 said: Doyle 41, Bewley 27, King 40, Riss 31, Nilsson 36, Cairns 17 and Foord 20 I make that average 30. Even if you discount the rising star its 32 not 36 I used their ages in 2027, you know the year when they actually ride together as a team. It’s a bit rich taking credit for having a youngster at 7 when the rules state you have to have a youngster at 7. Do you agree? 22 minutes ago, Witches1998 said: Cant just do 5, do the whole team I know you're a troll but come on Why not? I thought the rules stated 2 U21 riders. This certainly sheds light on to why they paid so so much for William as it definitely helps with their youthful team total. Hope it was worth it. Was my original post factually correct or not? Yes or no please, seeing as you are describing me as a troll. I’ll take your silence as a yes btw. Edited 2 hours ago by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I don't know what average Kim Nilsson would be assessed, However, the rule book does say this:- 010.2.2 Assessed MA’s Riders who are new to British Speedway and are not eligible to participate in the British Development League are calculated as follows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witches1998 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, ouch said: I used their ages in 2027, you know the year when they actually ride together as a team. Why not? I thought the rules stated 2 U21 riders. This certainly sheds light on to why they paid so so much for William as it definitely helps with their youthful team total. Hope it was worth it. Was my original post factually correct or not? Yes or no please, seeing as you are describing me as a troll. I’ll take your silence as a yes btw. They have birthdays all over the place they will all be what I said when they sign Pretty sure cairns will have been signed based on ability for a low average rather than bringing an average age down.. There's no tree ripping up when you sign a free agent / self employed rider at the end of a season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Witches1998 said: Doyle 41, Bewley 27, King 40, Riss 31, Nilsson 36, Cairns 17 and Foord 20 I make that average 30. Even if you discount the rising star its 32 not 36 Every Club will need some experienced Leaders in the pits due to the amount of youngsters in each team. Some of the youngsters have bright futures granted but they still lack experience to a point where they've still got a lot to learn and who better to learn from when it comes to riders like Doyle, King, Harris and co to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witches1998 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, tocha said: I don't know what average Kim Nilsson would be assessed, However, the rule book does say this:- 010.2.2 Assessed MA’s Riders who are new to British Speedway and are not eligible to participate in the British Development League are calculated as follows As I commented yesterday, the following rule underneath the chart also states said chart will be used if the rider has been missing for more than 3 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witches1998 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, tocha said: I don't know what average Kim Nilsson would be assessed, However, Edited 2 hours ago by Witches1998 Duplicate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ouch Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Witches1998 said: They have birthdays all over the place they will all be what I said when they sign Pretty sure cairns will have been signed based on ability for a low average rather than bringing an average age down.. There's no tree ripping up when you sign a free agent / self employed rider at the end of a season Just take their averages in October when you are lifting the trophy as a TEAM. This has really irked me and maybe that was the intent but I didn’t have you down as a troll like the other bunch. Due to the rules Richard only has free rein age wise over the top five so that’s what I used from my comparison. Perfectly reasonable, don’t you agree? Ipswich seems to be the only club stating this free agents spin as a way to take the sting out of their activities. Other clubs have a stronger bond with their riders and most fans can readily identify a particular rider with a particular club. I like it that way but I respect your opinion to the contrary even though I believe it to be detrimental to the fan engagement aspect of the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witches1998 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, ouch said: Just take their averages in October when you are lifting the trophy as a TEAM. This has really irked me and maybe that was the intent but I didn’t have you down as a troll like the other bunch. Due to the rules Richard only has free rein age wise over the top five so that’s what I used from my comparison. Perfectly reasonable, don’t you agree? Ipswich seems to be the only club stating this free agents spin as a way to take the sting out of their activities. Other clubs have a stronger bond with their riders and most fans can readily identify a particular rider with a particular club. I like it that way but I respect your opinion to the contrary even though I believe it to be detrimental to the fan engagement aspect of the sport. I have no clue if we will win the trophy anything can happen in speedway im not gonna sit here and say the rumoured team will easly win cause we dont know if 1 thats the team or 2 any other teams. We are never gonna agree and neither will see each others side so best just to move on cause arguing over age average is just stupid when again we dont even know if thats the team. Every club knows they dont own riders its not just us some people stay with a club for years cause they like it others move on for whatever reason they want you are the one trying to make a big deal that we are stealing when you cant steal a rider they make their own choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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