Belle Vue 2027

[coldace]

12 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

I never judge anybodys score at NSS as an away rider. Hardest track to visit with out teams. 

 

As a home rider once dialled in they will be brilliant. Klindt would thrive at belle vue for me. His type of club 

 I take your point Phil.  I also wholeheartedly agree that the loyalty shown by Lemmo is both unusual and to be appluaded. It can only help persuade riders to sign for the Aces as they will get a fair crack of the whip. Mulford got plenty of time. We're not Poole.

I think you point about Klindt adapting to riding the NSS each week is right.  Seem to remember Zak took a while to get dialed in. The only point I'd like to make is that there are, and have been, certain riders who are 'built' to ride our track.  Bjerre, Ben Cook, Tungate, Batchelor (in earlier days), and having someone like Tungate to rely on in Heats 13 and 15 might be a way to go.  I seem to remember it took quite a while for Brady to become as good around the NSS as he is now so giving riders time to work it out is sensible

Whatever happens I'm sure we will compete and hopefully get in to the final.  Remember it could be worse, I recall the season Morton and Gordon took over at the dog track and the the scamble to get seven guys who could ride a bike to become the Aces!

How far we have come!

[mikebv]

19 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

Agree with the sentiment but at the end of the day they’re running a business. The Ford’s at Poole don’t agree with those sentiments, they’re ruthless and have no time for sentimentality in search for Trophies and keeping their club successful. That in turn keeps their turnstiles clicking and keeps their business profitable. 
 

If Belle Vue start getting tonked regularly and the crowd levels fall through the floor causing a huge monetary loss at the end of the season, who is footing the bill?

Certainly not you or I. His business though and if he’s fully prepared to risk capital by staying loyal to riders then genuinely hats off to them. You can’t blame others for not doing the same though.

Hopefully for him it will be. Will be far more lucrative for him for obvious reasons. 

To be fair, Poole do have a different fanbase to the Aces, and have shown "success" keeps them attending, and "no success" sees them drift away, hence those who run it know their business well, and try to ensure their fanbase is given every reason to keep attending ..

The Aces do have a pretty decent "hardcore" who have attended down the years, regularly, each season regardless of the level of teams put out, (and a fair few have been dire). and not having to lay out for Bewley/Doyle will also help the coffers I would think, and, just as long they win most meetings at home they will maintain that 1200/1300 or so who attend each week..

It certainly is a track that provides significant home advantage when riders get dialled in, with visitors usually taking several races to find the set up, and some never actually finding it!!...

Fourth is as good as first, so building a team that does that will be the priority this season I would imagine, with the end of the season being often very different than the start, rider wise from team to team due to injuries...

Edited 4 hours ago by mikebv

[Garry1603]

Hearing this morning that Dan Bewley has left Belle Vue to join Ipswich feels reminiscent of when Ivan Mauger left the Aces after the 1972 season (not saying that Dan is as good of course). The team were all conquering that year and I, as a young fan, couldn't see how they would ever recover without their talisman, but of course they did with Peter Collins and others coming to the fore.

I think that most Aces fans will be grateful that he spent ten years with us and produced countless great races and wins and I'll still be wanting him to win the GPs. Not many riders show loyalty to one club, so to get a decade from Dan was a great testament to the relationship between him and to Mark Lemon.

All the best Dan - except when the Witches come to town!

 

 

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

It feels sad for speedway in general that bewley has left belle vue, i get riders move on but it just feels wrong 

[Youhave2minutes]

22 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

It feels sad for speedway in general that bewley has left belle vue, i get riders move on but it just feels wrong 

It’s only because Kurtz is up lemons arse

[Gavan]

I’ve just read on social media from a Belle Vue fan saying that Doyle and Bewley are showing no loyalty to the club by leaving lol

Bewley has been there 10 years and is an Aces legend… he wants a new challenge hardly disloyal 

And Doyle although he loved riding for Belle Vue only joined firstly because of the uncertainty at Ipswich meant he chose Sweden and then the unfortunate injury to Bewley ….. if Ipswich future wasn’t in doubt he would have been a witch ….. if Bewley wasn’t injured he would never have joined 

Doyle loved his time at Belle Vue but he doesn’t need to show loyalty to them .. for what ??

[Gavan]

I’ve just read on social media from a Belle Vue fan saying that Doyle and Bewley are showing no loyalty to the club by leaving lol

Bewley has been there 10 years and is an Aces legend… he wants a new challenge hardly disloyal 

And Doyle although he loved riding for Belle Vue only joined firstly because of the uncertainty at Ipswich meant he chose Sweden and then the unfortunate injury to Bewley ….. if Ipswich future wasn’t in doubt he would have been a witch ….. if Bewley wasn’t injured he would never have joined 

Doyle loved his time at Belle Vue but he doesn’t need to show loyalty to them .. for what ??

[GeneralMelchett]

1 hour ago, Garry1603 said:

Hearing this morning that Dan Bewley has left Belle Vue to join Ipswich feels reminiscent of when Ivan Mauger left the Aces after the 1972 season (not saying that Dan is as good of course). The team were all conquering that year and I, as a young fan, couldn't see how they would ever recover without their talisman, but of course they did with Peter Collins and others coming to the fore.

I think that most Aces fans will be grateful that he spent ten years with us and produced countless great races and wins and I'll still be wanting him to win the GPs. Not many riders show loyalty to one club, so to get a decade from Dan was a great testament to the relationship between him and to Mark Lemon.

All the best Dan - except when the Witches come to town!

 

 

Here here, one door closes and another one opens, a new BV hero is about to step forward!

[TheSmiler]

40 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said:

Here here, one door closes and another one opens, a new BV hero is about to step forward!

Zach Cook enters the chat.

[FishersGate]

Really don't understand the anger and disappointment from some fans towards Bewley leaving. He's a rider than clearly wants to get better and maybe one day win the world title. He isn't going to do that on riding the same track every week not learning anything. Ipswich is a great move for him, a different track that should make him a better rider. Belle Vue don't own Dan, Dan is self employed and has a right to go anywhere he wants to further his career. I'm sure Dan will be back in aces colours one day but a change is good for him. Zack Cook (if he signs) is getting better every season. Him and Kurtz leading the team with a few clever signings in the middle will still make them strong. 

[SUPERACE]

4 minutes ago, FishersGate said:

Really don't understand the anger and disappointment from some fans towards Bewley leaving. He's a rider than clearly wants to get better and maybe one day win the world title. He isn't going to do that on riding the same track every week not learning anything. Ipswich is a great move for him, a different track that should make him a better rider. Belle Vue don't own Dan, Dan is self employed and has a right to go anywhere he wants to further his career. I'm sure Dan will be back in aces colours one day but a change is good for him. Zack Cook (if he signs) is getting better every season. Him and Kurtz leading the team with a few clever signings in the middle will still make them strong. 

If your a fan of a club, then you should understand the feeling of the fans. 

[Chrisdonnelly]

Does this means kurtz & lidsey will be our top 2?

[PhilTheAce]

3 minutes ago, SUPERACE said:

If your a fan of a club, then you should understand the feeling of the fans. 

he dont understand

[FishersGate]

Just now, PhilTheAce said:

he dont understand

 

Just now, PhilTheAce said:

he dont understand

Explain what I don't understand then Phil? Should Dan commit his riding career to belle Vue only?

[nw42]

2 hours ago, Gavan said:

I’ve just read on social media from a Belle Vue fan saying that Doyle and Bewley are showing no loyalty to the club by leaving lol

Bewley has been there 10 years and is an Aces legend… he wants a new challenge hardly disloyal 

And Doyle although he loved riding for Belle Vue only joined firstly because of the uncertainty at Ipswich meant he chose Sweden and then the unfortunate injury to Bewley ….. if Ipswich future wasn’t in doubt he would have been a witch ….. if Bewley wasn’t injured he would never have joined 

Doyle loved his time at Belle Vue but he doesn’t need to show loyalty to them .. for what ??

Why didn't you reply to the comment rather than come running on here to spout about it?   

Nobody on here is slagging either rider off, all good things come to an end,  I was 12 when Ivan Mauger left us for Exeter, we got over it.

 

[SUPERACE]

2 minutes ago, FishersGate said:

 

Explain what I don't understand then Phil? Should Dan commit his riding career to belle Vue only?

As fans we feel yes, thats the point hence the disappointment.  

[FishersGate]

1 minute ago, SUPERACE said:

As fans we feel yes, thats the point hence the disappointment.  

I think that's very narrow minded. Haven't seen one post thanking Dan for all of his efforts with Belle Vue. He's been loyal to belle Vue for years. I've got a feeling because it's Ipswich,Belle Vue fans are bitter. Is it because Ipswich are taking a grand Prix away from you? 

[PhilTheAce]

4 minutes ago, FishersGate said:

 

Explain what I don't understand then Phil? Should Dan commit his riding career to belle Vue only?

we akk thought dan as the modern day PC, we thought he would stay all his career, so will take a while to get over it

[PhilTheAce]

2 minutes ago, FishersGate said:

I think that's very narrow minded. Haven't seen one post thanking Dan for all of his efforts with Belle Vue. He's been loyal to belle Vue for years. I've got a feeling because it's Ipswich,Belle Vue fans are bitter. Is it because Ipswich are taking a grand Prix away from you? 

its narrow minded turning your back on your own club, but oh well

[nw42]

1 minute ago, FishersGate said:

I think that's very narrow minded. Haven't seen one post thanking Dan for all of his efforts with Belle Vue. He's been loyal to belle Vue for years. I've got a feeling because it's Ipswich,Belle Vue fans are bitter. Is it because Ipswich are taking a grand Prix away from you? 

You seem like you're trying to stir the rubbish, why?    There's plenty of time for fans to get over the disappointment and loss of a firm favourite before praising his contribution to the cause, he's one of us, always will be, just out on loan for a while.