PhilTheAce Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, FishersGate said: You've lost the plot mate No. The random person who doesn't even attend speedway anymore telling aces fans how to react is whos lost the plot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, PhilTheAce said: No. The random person who doesn't even attend speedway anymore telling aces fans how to react is whos lost the plot I have my reasons for not attending anymore. I've explained them already. Apparently making an non controversial opinion makes me lose the plot does it? Meanwhile your comparing Bewley leaving to my wife leaving me ? Then saying boyfriend instead? That sounds like someone who's lost the plot to me. Mate it's a speedway forum. Stop getting so wound up about someone's opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, FishersGate said: You've lost the plot mate No. The random person who doesn't even attend speedway anymore telling aces fans how to react is whos lost the plot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Just now, PhilTheAce said: No. The random person who doesn't even attend speedway anymore telling aces fans how to react is whos lost the plot Agree to disagree. There's been far worse spouted on this forum. For example; wife's/boyfriends leaving their partners 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, FishersGate said: I have my reasons for not attending anymore. I've explained them already. Apparently making an non controversial opinion makes me lose the plot does it? Meanwhile your comparing Bewley leaving to my wife leaving me ? Then saying boyfriend instead? That sounds like someone who's lost the plot to me. Mate it's a speedway forum. Stop getting so wound up about someone's opinion. We could be here all day, end of the day we can count ourselves lucky we have a better rider in Brady still. Not better entertainer. But better rider. It could be worse. But dan was one of our own, watched him grow from a NDL no7 to our GP star. So it will take a while for aces fans to get over. And the last thing they need to hear is people telling them how to react. Once the belle vue 1-7 is announced everything will be forgotten and we will.enjoy brady v dan when they clash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: No. The random person who doesn't even attend speedway anymore telling aces fans how to react is whos lost the plot You know what I mean though. There was nothing personal about it. Its just a comparison. Being a fan or a club/rider is just like a relationship. But more tribal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, FishersGate said: I have my reasons for not attending anymore. I've explained them already. Apparently making an non controversial opinion makes me lose the plot does it? Meanwhile your comparing Bewley leaving to my wife leaving me ? Then saying boyfriend instead? That sounds like someone who's lost the plot to me. Mate it's a speedway forum. Stop getting so wound up about someone's opinion. No your telling Aces fans how they should feel about one of our own deciding to leave. Most normal fans would feel the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: You know what I mean though. There was nothing personal about it. Its just a comparison. Being a fan or a club/rider is just like a relationship. But more tribal Probably feels worse than the wife leaving 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: We could be here all day, end of the day we can count ourselves lucky we have a better rider in Brady still. Not better entertainer. But better rider. It could be worse. But dan was one of our own, watched him grow from a NDL no7 to our GP star. So it will take a while for aces fans to get over. And the last thing they need to hear is people telling them how to react. Once the belle vue 1-7 is announced everything will be forgotten and we will.enjoy brady v dan when they clash That's more like it. Also I didn't intend to tell people how to react, I just didn't understand the initial reaction. That's all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: You know what I mean though. There was nothing personal about it. Its just a comparison. Being a fan or a club/rider is just like a relationship. But more tribal I understand the tribalism. It's passion. I don't get too wound up about speedway anymore. At one time I was mad about the lions. Now I'm more calm. Some still do get wound up or passionate that's fine. It's a matter of opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 55 minutes ago, FishersGate said: Aw I'm sure Dan is really regretting his choice now knowing he's upset his beloved supporters. I can comment on whatever I want, it's a forum that involves debate. Why can't people understand speedway riders are self employed ? Therefore have choice to where they ride? Bewley could have left years ago but stayed loyal for years. Move on Phil. I didn't see Ipswich fans crying when Doyle signed for Belle Vue. Plenty of Ipswich fans on here were very unhappy that Doyle signed for the Aces, given they were desperate for a "proper" No1 themselves... With the over riding narrative being they should let Brennan and A.N Other go, (whoever's average worked best), to bring in Doyle and "someone else"... With Mayfield's "loyalty" being held up as the reason it won't/didn't happen, which, as they let Brennan go anyway, was, in hindsight, an opportunity missed... However. The other way of looking at it though is that by keeping their team together last season it has meant plenty of opportunity to bring in two top level riders for this season coming... With Cairns too it looks a very decent team, and should bring in a few non regulars to away tracks in particular... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: Plenty of Ipswich fans on here were very unhappy that Doyle signed for the Aces, given they were desperate for a "proper" No1 themselves... With the over riding narrative being they should let Brennan and A.N Other go, (whoever's average worked best), to bring in Doyle and "someone else"... With Mayfield's "loyalty" being held up as the reason it won't/didn't happen, which, as they let Brennan go anyway, was, in hindsight, an opportunity missed... However. The other way of looking at it though is that by keeping their team together last season it has meant plenty of opportunity to bring in two top level riders for this season coming... With Cairns too it looks a very decent team, and should bring in a few non regulars to away tracks in particular... I look at the reaction differently. Doyle signed for Belle vue half way through the season for an injured rider. An opportunity anyone would be silly to turn down and it paid off for him. I'm sure a few were upset by it. Which again I find baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Dan has left belle Vue to better his world championship chances, apparently he felt stale blasting round belle Vue every week, maybe at another track will help his gating 🤔 at the end of the day modern riders are now self employed for the season, so no contracts to hold them to a certain club, and in theory can ride wherever they want or are wanted 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Pretty much a completely new track next season at Ipswich too... Might take a while to get dialled in..?.. Knocks two points off his average and the Aces have him back in 2028... Not if he doesn’t wanna upset Uncle Artur and end up with a Horses head in his bed 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Is Lidsey a done deal at Northampton likewise with B. Cook at Sheffield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Plenty of Ipswich fans on here were very unhappy that Doyle signed for the Aces, given they were desperate for a "proper" No1 themselves... With the over riding narrative being they should let Brennan and A.N Other go, (whoever's average worked best), to bring in Doyle and "someone else"... With Mayfield's "loyalty" being held up as the reason it won't/didn't happen, which, as they let Brennan go anyway, was, in hindsight, an opportunity missed... However. The other way of looking at it though is that by keeping their team together last season it has meant plenty of opportunity to bring in two top level riders for this season coming... With Cairns too it looks a very decent team, and should bring in a few non regulars to away tracks in particular... That was me and it wasn’t an opportunity missed. There’s a difference between sacking a struggling rider mid-season and then not offering another deal to an out of contract rider at the end of the season. Bangs was released after lengthy talks and it was seen as in the riders best interests. They had to talk him in to returning after his mid season ban but he wasn’t in a good place and wasn’t enjoying himself. I’ve said before that after a lengthy chat with Coleman, anyone expecting/hoping for mid season changes if things aren’t going to plan, will end up frustrated because that doesn’t seem to be the way he operates other than an extreme case. He’s very much like John Louis used to be in actual fact. Chris Louis, not so much as he was far more relaxed with changing things if he felt they were needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 24 minutes ago Report Share Posted 24 minutes ago 8 hours ago, mikebv said: Three riders are stepping up, as Zichke is becoming a second string.. Good to see some continuity, and loyalty, in a sport that does its best to destroy it, but, as you say, a gamble that all three will need to deliver even their current figures, although, all are on an upward trajectory in their careers so possibly they will adapt well to their new positions in the team... 8 hours ago, mikebv said: Fair play to Mark Lemon in sticking with those lads who made significant strides last season rather than replacing them for doing "too well"... A strategy unique to UK Speedway and one that does it few favours... Speedway forum access This is an area I would be happy to see changes made to and encouraged There is so much discount for this (2.5% Brit) ,allowance for that (5% home guest) why not reward continuity I'd support a 0.1% reduction for any rider in the previous seasons initial declaration that is named in the next seasons initial declaration 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 7 minutes ago Report Share Posted 7 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: This is an area I would be happy to see changes made to and encouraged There is so much discount for this (2.5% Brit) ,allowance for that (5% home guest) why not reward continuity I'd support a 0.1% reduction for any rider in the previous seasons initial declaration that is named in the next seasons initial declaration It is barmy that you deliver success then cannot maximise it financially... Basically you win the play offs and then?... The sport stops... And you then lose riders that fans have had an affinity to, so go into your "Champions" season looking nothing like the team who actually won... You can actually spend half a season winning meetings comfortably, and your home crowd reduces due to the lack of jeopardy of victory or defeat. After June we seem to always know the PO teams, and you get nothing for topping the table .. They should stop "dumbing down" and start to "level up", and that way fans can build affinity with riders, and riders can build an affinity with fans, as they know it won't be a one or two season visit... You should only lose your place in a team for not performing, and definitely not for doing "too well"... Currently, what is actually the point of winning the league? Given financially, you are not getting the opportunity to earn from it, and cannot build a "dynasty" for further success... And after all the Mickey Mouse, contrived, pi**ing about to make things "even", the same four teams qualify anyway!!!😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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