Belle Vue 2027

[TTT]

4 minutes ago, mikebv said:

With weaker rising stars, and also looking like weaker No 6's, and also no sign of any new top level riders coming over, this year has to be weaker than last surely?..

Depends on who Belle Vue and Sheffield's No.6's are imo.

Cairns, Rushen, Harrison and McDiarmid is a good quartet of young No.6's so far imo and we have to bring the youngsters on but every Club will need a decent No.6 to make it work.

I'm not a fan of the 2027 Rising Star list though and it shouldn't be happening at PREM level imo.

[Phannan]

17 minutes ago, mikebv said:

With weaker rising stars, and also looking like weaker No 6's, and also no sign of any new top level riders coming over, this year has to be weaker than last surely?..

It’ll be the strongest year ever if the witches prevail. Just like it was the other time in memory that they came top. 

[Steve Irving]

2 minutes ago, Phannan said:

It’ll be the strongest year ever if the witches prevail. Just like it was the other time in memory that they came top. 

Again, selective guff. Nobody has said next year will be any stronger or weaker, literally nobody. But it will be FAIRER.

You seem to like dancing around the whole point but carry on.

[Gavan]

18 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

Again, selective guff. Nobody has said next year will be any stronger or weaker, literally nobody. But it will be FAIRER.

You seem to like dancing around the whole point but carry on.

Belle Vue fans aren’t the most intelligent lol

Last season was not competitive from June onwards that’s a fact 

The season before was more competitive as all 4 play off teams were capable of winning the league 

If this season Ipswich or Leicester are obvious winners by June then 2027 won’t be competitive either 

Belle Vue were deserved champions last season 

nothing to do with the league strength like they keep saying …. I’m talking about a close exciting season 

Last season wasn’t its not rocket science unless you are from Manchester 

[Gavan]

26 minutes ago, Phannan said:

It’ll be the strongest year ever if the witches prevail. Just like it was the other time in memory that they came top. 

Nobody is talking about weaker or stronger 

We are talking about competitive 

You could have a league with no top riders but if it was competitive then it’s competitive 

You won last season fairly but it wasn’t a good season 

When we won it in 1998 it was boring at times 

[Phannan]

1 minute ago, Gavan said:

Belle Vue fans aren’t the most intelligent lol

Last season was not competitive from June onwards that’s a fact 

The season before was more competitive as all 4 play off teams were capable of winning the league 

If this season Ipswich or Leicester are obvious winners by June then 2027 won’t be competitive either 

Belle Vue were deserved champions last season 

nothing to do with the league strength like they keep saying …. I’m talking about a close exciting season 

Last season wasn’t its not rocket science unless you are from Manchester 

You’re right about last year . Because you lot gave up after a couple of months. Of course the year before was fairer when you came out on top. Obvious winners in June? What a sad state of affairs when so called professional teams give in so soon because of what is likely to happen. Short changing supporters in the process. Better off in keeping trying till the end . Who knows what can happen in play offs . Injuries, bad decisions etc 

[mikebv]

22 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

Again, selective guff. Nobody has said next year will be any stronger or weaker, literally nobody. But it will be FAIRER.

You seem to like dancing around the whole point but carry on.

How is it "fairer"?...

Northampton and KL won't have a big hitting No1, due to no one of that level wanting to ride over here. 

Ipswich will have two, like the Aces did last year .

Is that "fair?"..

And last season Ipswich, regardless of the takeover,  basically only missed out on Jason Doyle as, same again, no other top level riders wanted to come over... 

Meaning they couldn't have signed anyone anyway...

And they still ended up with two of the top eight riders in the averages, so, didn't do too bad...

The only "fair system" is to distribute the top level riders to one per team, as currently, the teams with two have a big advantage in heats 13 and 15, (as the Aces showed often last season)...

Kurtz, Doyle, Bewley, J Holder, Fricke and Douglas should all be the No1's if you want "fairness"...

And it would mean a much more competitive sport..

 

 

 

 

[Phannan]

32 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

Again, selective guff. Nobody has said next year will be any stronger or weaker, literally nobody. But it will be FAIRER.

You seem to like dancing around the whole point but carry on.

Fairer for yous lot because you’ve got a couple of big hitters again, meaning you won’t throw the towel in after a third of the season 

[Steve Irving]

6 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Belle Vue fans aren’t the most intelligent lol

Last season was not competitive from June onwards that’s a fact 

The season before was more competitive as all 4 play off teams were capable of winning the league 

If this season Ipswich or Leicester are obvious winners by June then 2027 won’t be competitive either 

Belle Vue were deserved champions last season 

nothing to do with the league strength like they keep saying …. I’m talking about a close exciting season 

Last season wasn’t its not rocket science unless you are from Manchester 

 

4 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Nobody is talking about weaker or stronger 

We are talking about competitive 

You could have a league with no top riders but if it was competitive then it’s competitive 

You won last season fairly but it wasn’t a good season 

When we won it in 1998 it was boring at times 

My issue isn’t the competitiveness either. You’ll always get season’s where it’s uncompetitive and one team is a standout and dominates, I haven’t an issue with that.

My issue is, and has always been, the integrity of a league where four teams compile their teams before Christmas, while two teams are not even confirmed as competing until February and then have to hastily assemble teams of misfits. You could actually add a third, even Sheffield didn’t confirm themselves as running until January! That is NOT a level playing field and the whole season was a mess as a result.

In fairness, not all Belle Vue supporters are completely blinkered and biased. There were a couple on here who admitted the victory just didn’t feel right and they couldn’t get much satisfaction out of it (probably to the annoyance of their fellow posters) and that’s to their credit.

Not once have I ever said anything was Belle Vue’s fault either, it obviously wasn’t. 
 

But let’s not pretend it was no different to any other season ffs.

[Aries]

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Aries

[Phannan]

1 minute ago, Aries said:

Is that a clean shaven Russell Brand pinning someone down against their will ? 

[SUPERACE]

19 minutes ago, Aries said:

Let's see if Coleman is still at Ipswich in 12 years time like lemo has been 

[Aries]

Don’t be mad at me Phil its all good fun 😂

Your turn will come again soon enough 

[TTT]

Richard Coleman greeting the grandstand at the NSS next season.

[PhilTheAce]

Can't wait for ipswich to roll into Manchester next season. And get sent home with the witches hat between there legs. 

 

Its going to be soooooo sweet 🥳 😘

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

15 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

Can't wait for ipswich to roll into Manchester next season. And get sent home with the witches hat between there legs. 

 

Its going to be soooooo sweet 🥳 😘

Very Kevin Keegan!

"I'd love it if we beat them, love it"

😁

[mikebv]

16 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

Can't wait for ipswich to roll into Manchester next season. And get sent home with the witches hat between there legs. 

 

Its going to be soooooo sweet 🥳 😘

Plenty of "throttle jockey's" now in their team....

[PhilTheAce]

1 minute ago, mikebv said:

Plenty of "throttle jockey's" now in their team....

They are that much like the aces I wouldn't even know who to support tbh 

[ouch]

2 hours ago, Gavan said:

Belle Vue fans aren’t the most intelligent lol

Last season was not competitive from June onwards that’s a fact 

The season before was more competitive as all 4 play off teams were capable of winning the league 

If this season Ipswich or Leicester are obvious winners by June then 2027 won’t be competitive either 

Belle Vue were deserved champions last season 

nothing to do with the league strength like they keep saying …. I’m talking about a close exciting season 

Last season wasn’t its not rocket science unless you are from Manchester 

 

1 hour ago, Steve Irving said:

 

My issue isn’t the competitiveness either. You’ll always get season’s where it’s uncompetitive and one team is a standout and dominates, I haven’t an issue with that.

My issue is, and has always been, the integrity of a league where four teams compile their teams before Christmas, while two teams are not even confirmed as competing until February and then have to hastily assemble teams of misfits. You could actually add a third, even Sheffield didn’t confirm themselves as running until January! That is NOT a level playing field and the whole season was a mess as a result.

In fairness, not all Belle Vue supporters are completely blinkered and biased. There were a couple on here who admitted the victory just didn’t feel right and they couldn’t get much satisfaction out of it (probably to the annoyance of their fellow posters) and that’s to their credit.

Not once have I ever said anything was Belle Vue’s fault either, it obviously wasn’t. 
 

But let’s not pretend it was no different to any other season ffs.

 

What the hell is wrong with you two really wtf. Out of all the witches trolls you are both gold standard. 

I’ve previously posted about the points difference between teams in the league table in 2025 & 2026. You can deduce the competitiveness from that. I’m not putting the figures down again, look up some facts yourselves for once.

Christ, you say the Aces were down as champions in June but Ipswich the previous season were considered champions before a wheel was turn with many on here saying it was the best league team since 1998 and they would go the whole season without defeat. It’s on this site from last year for Christ sake, why are you denying this?????

You then go on to say you weren’t competitive so it was unfair. When adding in the RS to your total team average, you had the highest of the lot ffs. You were all telling us that Jason Doyle approached you this year and you turned him down yet everything is so unfair for you, that’s bleedin ridiculous. 

You cannot see the published data and arrive at the nonsense you do, it’s impossible so are you trolling and why??

One consistent with you both is the absolute refusal to debate the facts as your go to response is bad language and name calling. WHY??

 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

5 hours ago, therefused said:

yep, but apparently the standard is much higher with the same teams, the same riders and a much weaker RS position 😁

 

5 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

i didnt even think about the weaker rising stars, so basically the standard is worse than last year, but shush, keep that quiet, dont tell the ipswich fans 

 

2 hours ago, mikebv said:

With weaker rising stars, and also looking like weaker No 6's, and also no sign of any new top level riders coming over, this year has to be weaker than last surely?..

Undoubtedly 2027 will be weaker (unfortunately)

Impossible not to be when you set the limit at 37+RS so effectively 40

Belle Vue need to shed 5+ points

The other 3 play off teams have to reduce from their end totals

Also ran Kings Lynn about on par

Bottom place Northampton can add less than 2 points

That simply doesn't work if the aim is to build the quality