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On 2/7/2019 at 4:25 PM, IronScorpion said:

It is not the present BSPA's fault & people should get real as the decline has been happening for this last 8 to 10 years. The decisions made, though, this last 2 years with the J Holder debate & the changing of Friday fixtures to teams, supposedly, main race nights which should have been the norm from decisions made at the AGM but when the fixtures came out, no-one could foresee the problems that would later arise & not just at CL level but PL as well. Even in the NL teams struggled to get 7 riders either through school, travel, work or couldn't be arsed.

Whether we like it or not guests are a big part of speedway now, the problem with using guests on Fridays should have been seen before the fixture list was released. 

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6 hours ago, Midget said:

I'm a comets fam through an through an have missed a handful of meetings since the re launch in 99. Being honest an not letting my heart rule my head, I think it's highly unlikely we'll ever see the comets on track ever again. 

As stated on posts on this forum, costs need looked at, also some sort of cap across the board needs implemented. As Laura Morgan stated herself, there was a meeting with the bspa about every club needing to reduce costs then the next thing Glasgow are offering stupid amounts of money to tempt riders.

Who are Glasgow going to race against If this carrys on? Themselfs. 

Also Any good businessman will only loose money for soo long, look at Keith Denham, who in all honesty probably has a bigger personal fortune than the brothers at Glasgow, not only did he offload the comets, but at the end did he was nowhere to be seen when help was needed. 

Moving on to rob Godfrey in this week's speedway star, that's just comedy gold. A promoter trying to save British speedway. What a laugh, the man hammered a couple of nails in the comets coffin with his interference an objections reguarding fixtures.

You would have been better saying nothing rather than some of the absolute crap you put in that.

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On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 1:52 PM, Tosh1218 said:

Let’s be honest now and look at it properly 

1- Rye House we’re closed down due to monetary problems 

2- Workington could have been closed down with the same problems last year 

3- if you think putting Workingtons licence on ice for 2019 and be back up and running for 2020  get real 

Ask Long Eaton, Hull vikings , Bradford Dukes fans if this will come true as this was the statement put out to there fans when speedway was suspended at there tracks 

For speedway to survive in this country at championship level costs have to be cut and riders will have to become semi-professional riders 

Why can’t people see what is happening 

All Teams in All leagues have to agree a budget and stick to that budget 

 

if I was in business and my outgoings are more than the income , then I would close down , until people stop looking through rose tinted glasses and wake up Speedway will be defunct within s decadee

I think you are absolutely right about the part time status for riders. At the moment it seems to me that the sport is being run for their benefit and that just has to stop.

Having said that, Hull, Bradford & Long Eaton all closed due to the loss of their stadiums rather than financial difficulties.

I also think that sports teams are different to running a commercial business, and that is reflected right across the spectrum. Whereas a business just has to make money, many sports teams these days are more of a private hobby for wealthy individuals. Rugby Union's premiership, for example, loses tens of millions a year and the majority of clubs are supported by private backers.

The problem isn't losing money so much as the scale of the losses. If Laura Morgan had been blowing £5,000 a year rather than £50,000 a year supporting the Comets I think its highly likely they would still be in operation.

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20 hours ago, comet49 said:

Whether we like it or not guests are a big part of speedway now, the problem with using guests on Fridays should have been seen before the fixture list was released. 

I agree that guests are part of our sport & we are, also, trying to lesson the number of "doubling" riders by trying to bring British riders through, steadily, with the new system rather then the ill fought EDR system.

When you put your team together, although late last year, having to pay riders that little bit more than you would have budgeted for then to see that you would have a memorable season which would cost you a lot of money & force through a decision to "go on ice" hopefully, for a year before coming back in 2020. I wish I could see what the future holds because I would then buy a lottery ticket with the winning numbers for tonight......................... I REST MY CASE!

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4 hours ago, IronScorpion said:

I agree that guests are part of our sport & we are, also, trying to lesson the number of "doubling" riders by trying to bring British riders through, steadily, with the new system rather then the ill fought EDR system.

When you put your team together, although late last year, having to pay riders that little bit more than you would have budgeted for then to see that you would have a memorable season which would cost you a lot of money & force through a decision to "go on ice" hopefully, for a year before coming back in 2020. I wish I could see what the future holds because I would then buy a lottery ticket with the winning numbers for tonight......................... I REST MY CASE!

if the case is too heavy for you mate . put it down . thats all H18TORY now .... .good luck in 2019 .

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8 hours ago, IronScorpion said:

I agree that guests are part of our sport & we are, also, trying to lesson the number of "doubling" riders by trying to bring British riders through, steadily, with the new system rather then the ill fought EDR system.

When you put your team together, although late last year, having to pay riders that little bit more than you would have budgeted for then to see that you would have a memorable season which would cost you a lot of money & force through a decision to "go on ice" hopefully, for a year before coming back in 2020. I wish I could see what the future holds because I would then buy a lottery ticket with the winning numbers for tonight......................... I REST MY CASE!

Dead easy to cut down the number of guests. Each team to have a NL (2.00) no. 8. Guest for your number 1 only. R/R for nos. 2 to 5. If both teams are using R/R then your highest reserve is promoted into the team and your no. 8 takes his reserve spot.

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On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2019 at 9:12 PM, leander said:

Dead easy to cut down the number of guests. Each team to have a NL (2.00) no. 8. Guest for your number 1 only. R/R for nos. 2 to 5. If both teams are using R/R then your highest reserve is promoted into the team and your no. 8 takes his reserve spot.

I really like this suggestion :)

But it will probably be to easy and simple for the BSPA to adopt unfortunately.

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On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2019 at 9:12 PM, leander said:

Dead easy to cut down the number of guests. Each team to have a NL (2.00) no. 8. Guest for your number 1 only. R/R for nos. 2 to 5. If both teams are using R/R then your highest reserve is promoted into the team and your no. 8 takes his reserve spot.

This always used to be the case.

no 6 man teams riding against 6 man teams, one injured in each team, bring in the number 8s

don't why this cant still be done

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2 hours ago, The Third Man said:

This always used to be the case.

no 6 man teams riding against 6 man teams, one injured in each team, bring in the number 8s

don't why this cant still be done

because its way too easy . 

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25 minutes ago, jenga said:

because its way too easy . 

and,,,, there'll be many complaining about paying decent money to watch 'wobblers'.

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4 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

and,,,, there'll be many complaining about paying decent money to watch 'wobblers'.

At least the “wobblers “seem to be trying for 4 laps which is not the case for the “seasoned” riders at times,better to have a”nice “ average for guesting for some of them  at times IMO.

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If you own a profitable business and are comfortably well-off then putting money into a sport such as speedway can cost you very little as you can offset those costs against Corporation Tax and Income Tax meaning you can support something you like for very little and as a bonus you will probably be invited to attend every meeting for FREE.

E2R

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2 hours ago, jenga said:

because its way too easy . 

And as RG alluded to in the SS, 'guest riding' is a nice earner for the riders which helps fund their riding, hence they are here to stay..

Their team might only have 30 or so meetings but riders can ride many, many more times if they have the 'right average' ....

(and maintain it):rolleyes:...

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55 minutes ago, mikebv said:

And as RG alluded to in the SS, 'guest riding' is a nice earner for the riders which helps fund their riding, hence they are here to stay..

Their team might only have 30 or so meetings but riders can ride many, many more times if they have the 'right average' ....

(and maintain it):rolleyes:...

Sadly, I think you're right.

Another example of how the sport is being run for the benefit of its paid employees rather than its paying customers.

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Had a look at Derwent Park today.....work including painting, sweeping terraces, foliage removal -  all busily happening.

Sad though to see the markers on the speedway track indicating where the new playing surface for the new incumbent soccer outfit ,Workington 'Reds', will eventually be.

A lot of the 'track' is going to be taken to allow Reds to play according to FA pitch requirements.......the 'markers' just sadly seemed some sort of final epitaph to a once great speedway track.

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