mikebv 10,273 Posted June 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: King's Lynn deserved to lose but I'm not having that argument at all. If rider's where earning a salary then yes but paid per point, there's no way any rider thinks about league points during a meeting. They all look after themselves & want to earn every ££ available. I would have once agreed, however, times have changed, and massively for some.... Those who have much more to earn (and lose) over the following night/weekend in Poland may no longer (quite understandably), "give it their all" when a meeting is comfortably won..... Dan Bewley for example has 'World Stage' aspirations that hopefully get advanced via the SEC this weekend as well as also riding in front of a possible full house at Wroclaw as they try to stay top of the table... For riders like this I am sure that when a meeting is all but over in the UK, then no undue risks will be taken if they don't make the gate.. Either consciously or unconsciously.... And given the rewards on offer in Poland for being a success you can only understand that position, as it's just human nature.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellboy 3,662 Posted June 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Rob B said: Don't get too carried away, just like the centre green presenter after heat 15, Belle Vue took their foot off the gas towards the end of the meeting with 4 points comfortably in the bag. I agree with Daniel.Riders are paid per point and they don't even know their teams scores all they are interested in is piling up the points.Bewley was riding his nuts off to try and gain extra points in his last couple of races. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,286 Posted June 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Trees said: In the days when speedway was a relatively rich sport ...... Lynn had a speedway only, best in the country, track. It's obviously still decent, Dan Bewley tweeted tonight how much he enjoyed it and he's riding all over the world so should know! Those days are gone though, they are decades ago when you lot were enthusiastic youngsters! I still love it, yes want close racing but I won't give it up til I'm 6 foot under haha I was in the stadium for 6.30, and saw the BV rides walk the track. As they walked back in the pits they was saying between themselves how good the track looked. It is slicker this season ,as the race times back that up, and although i think some riders asked for it, i'm, not so sure they have their bikes dialled in for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyderd 1,216 Posted June 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Trees said: In the days when speedway was a relatively rich sport ...... Lynn had a speedway only, best in the country, track. It's obviously still decent, Dan Bewley tweeted tonight how much he enjoyed it and he's riding all over the world so should know! Those days are gone though, they are decades ago when you lot were enthusiastic youngsters! I still love it, yes want close racing but I won't give it up til I'm 6 foot under haha Hyde Road, even with the sharing of Stock cars or are you referring to after Hyde Road closed, and lets not forget Coventry, Bradford,Sheffield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
00000 1,279 Posted June 26, 2021 22 hours ago, Haza said: I’d already thought it - but is it dropping down ? 10 years ago I’d said bad move but now it’s the better product with the same riders more or less - 6 team PL is no good to anyone . Some cracking stuff in Championship already this year 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,695 Posted June 26, 2021 46 minutes ago, hyderd said: Hyde Road, even with the sharing of Stock cars or are you referring to after Hyde Road closed, and lets not forget Coventry, Bradford,Sheffield. Were Coventry, Bradford and Sheffield speedway only ? That was clearly what Trees said in her post... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyderd 1,216 Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Blupanther said: Were Coventry, Bradford and Sheffield speedway only ? That was clearly what Trees said in her post... I doubt it, but they were still excellent speedway tracks, as is Kings Lynn. PS so was Hyde Rd, and was most speedway fans favorite track. Edited June 26, 2021 by hyderd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted June 26, 2021 15 hours ago, tellboy said: I agree with Daniel.Riders are paid per point and they don't even know their teams scores all they are interested in is piling up the points.Bewley was riding his nuts off to try and gain extra points in his last couple of races. dan is not bothered about a extra £50 for winning he gets more than that start money in poland match over not even a contest easy win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Bend Bunching 23 Posted June 26, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 11:32 PM, Rob B said: Don't get too carried away, just like the centre green presenter after heat 15, Belle Vue took their foot off the gas towards the end of the meeting with 4 points comfortably in the bag. I'm not getting carried away just saying how I see it I'm trying to find the positives of out of a home loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrss 691 Posted June 27, 2021 6 hours ago, First Bend Bunching said: I'm not getting carried away just saying how I see it I'm trying to find the positives of out of a home loss. There are no positives from any defeat especially a home one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,661 Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 6:30 PM, mrss said: The only thing you are sure on is knocking Kings Lynn speedway. 4 hours ago, mrss said: There are no positives from any defeat especially a home one. Just leave this here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,286 Posted June 27, 2021 15 hours ago, GAH said: dan is not bothered about a extra £50 for winning he gets more than that start money in poland match over not even a contest easy win So you are saying Dan is only on £50 a point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 11:32 PM, Rob B said: Don't get too carried away, just like the centre green presenter after heat 15, Belle Vue took their foot off the gas towards the end of the meeting with 4 points comfortably in the bag. That's what I said BUT then someone else said to me, why would they want to chuck wages away, true that ..... I think they thought Kurtz n Dan would get an easy 5-1 in the last or they would've put out lower order riders ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semion 2,192 Posted June 27, 2021 Do the top boys not work on guarantees in terms of earnings per meeting ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
00000 1,279 Posted June 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, semion said: Do the top boys not work on guarantees in terms of earnings per meeting ? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites