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Additional link for tonight: https://vk.com/video-220089063_456247349

Dodgy weather rest of night!!

Exactly the point I'm trying to make to counter the comparison argument from others for speedway admission to be lower.

We already had someone who could beat No.1's at reserve in Dan T

The lowest I have paid anywhere this year is £18, but most tracks you are looking at a minimum of £20. Buxton promoter once told me that at his 'domestic' meetings he rubs 6/7 lesser formulas as he knows their 'pay to race' fees will cover his outgoings, so any paying spectators are profit. F1 meetings would have 'payouts' of around £4-5k in start and prize money on top of the other costs. Crowd sizes vary wildly depending on the formula with literally just a few hundred at some non-F1 meetings, up to several thousand at bigger meetings. The fact that you think speedway has higher outgoings surely suggests that the prices should be higher, so the fact that admission to both is similar is a positive for speedway.

I use Staring abroad ,no hassle ,no charges if you withdraw cash just remember to pay in local ( if asked).

Thanks for the insight. I still don't think it's a valid comparison to speedway though regarding admission cost. The stock car meetings at Foxhall always seem packed, they charge for parking as well plus they get the catering/bar income. Profits for these meetings I think will be way in excess of what speedway could make. Do you know if the admission cost for meetings with lower formulas is significantly lower? For speedway I'd estimate outgoings for each meeting to be around 25-26k, not adding in any profit margin. They have to recoup this of course but I'd expect stock car outgoings to be lower. Overall, I think the entry price for speedway is ok in the Premiership. Blimey, I paid £19 for a fish and chips meal at a pub last week plus £7 for a glass of wine - I'd have rather been at the speedway!

You do realise there are 2 GP riders in the other semi as well ? One who has a very slight mathematical chance of a bronze medal, and the other in a fight for a guaranteed place in the series next year. Why would it have been OK for them to race last night, but not fair for the Belle Vue riders ? Common sense would have been for the semis to start a week later, after the final GP.

I didn't watch it, so can't comment on Zmarzlik's actual performance, he could well have gated which he's far from bad at and stuck in his position without trying to overtake any of the riders in front of him. 8 paid 9 from 4 riders is a bad night for a rider who averages 10.87 in that league. No rider will get on the podium over the course of a GP series if they can't gate, not everyone can be Artem Laguta or Erik Gundersen away from the tapes but every rider in the GP series ever must be capable of making a reasonable consistent starts or they wouldn't be capable of maintaining a spot in the series. Mountain dropped for Zischke last year is evidence that is not always the case.

Probably wound Havvy and Poole team up

Dynamic pricing usually comes down when demand is much, much lower than supply... It seems the Aces' leadership had a different idea...

I wasn't criticising him, no one uses that outside line better than Adam, but the track conditions made that very difficult unfortunately...

That's a basic page 1 lesson on price and demand elasticity!

tbf the Ippo merch is pretty uninspiring... I've never got on with their black and day glo yellow colours

Not entirely true. The lesser formulas that don't attract much of a crowd pay to race, but the bigger formulas don't. They also receive prize money for placings, some formulas get 'start money', and also the F1s get free admissions for 3 mechanics.

Piotr Pawlicki and Oskar Polis? 😁

Depends on the meeting format. Usually 10-15 races at 5-6 minutes each, so 60-90 minutes in total. So yes, probably 25-40p per minute.

Not bitter at all... I rate Adam highly so Ipswich should use him wisely over the next two meetings... Very lucky to have someone who can still beat No1's at reserve... As I say, a "cheat code" if used correctly when replacing others...

Very bitter. Thompson ha# been excellent at reserve all season. One ride/point (0.04) separating Ellis and Thompson in the September green sheets, and it upset the balance of the Ipswich team. Having riders who can adapt to conditions is important. Throttle-jockeys can't win everything 😉

Thinking about this, surely Foord was withholding services which would mean Kent could have a guest.

Northampton and wider Northamptonshire like Kettering,Corby,Wellingborough have huge Eastern European populations so the hope may be to have a couple of Polish riders in the home team will encourage them to travel

Or maybe the 'Play Off' System has had it's day. Perhaps people are realising that when you win the League, and your reward is sod all - it's not worth the candle. Back in the 60's, 70's etc. The League Champions won the League, and didn't have to win it twice. While I am on, why not get rid of the Grand Prix Series too. How exactly does that benefit British Speedway As far as I can see, it is a hindrance, For example, last night both Dan Bewley and Brady Kurtz had a potential World Championship to win or to get a medal. Why would they put themselves at risk of serious injury just TWO days before an Event like this, I for one, do not blame them at all, especially on a Track in the dreadful state that Foxhall was in last night? Go back to the World Final - one Meeting. It was good enough for Mauger, Peter Collins Olsen, Petersen etc. It would reduce the costs for riders. It would also bring back the thrill of everything depending on one race.

Northampton best chance would be to run Sunday afternoons in the national league, allowing people to travel.

A "cheat code" at reserve for the play offs... I still rank him in the top five GB riders when fully fit...

And Bankrupt more Clubs🤔and most of the diehards are dying off. I for one would like to see the Accounts of Gp Clubs,can’t imagine what they would look like. There’s next season’s restructuring to look forward too though.🧑🏼‍🦯🤔