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I hope we prepare the track to suit our own riders.

I visited Perry Barr earlier in the season to watch the Lions and paid by card for me and the missus at the entrance. I say ‘paid’, but to this day no money has left my account. This could be a blip, but may have happened to others (who are hardly going to shout up are they?…..although they can now!). Whilst this isn’t the straw that breaks the camel’s back, it does imply sloppiness of a club needing to seemingly count every penny.

Totally untrue.

Rain due throughout the day til late afternoon, but all the extra shale on the track should soak it up nicely. If Tiggers fans can't make it you can watch on Pirates TV (Link on website). Hopefully for us Pirate fans who can't travel to Glasgow on 7/9 there will also be a stream available...........!? (One can only hope).

Whatever you want........!?😄

Well, that's not true. What do you reckon Mr Vatcher's role is within the BSPL?

Spot on comment about there being an appetite for Speedway... At the NSS there have been two good crowds this year, yesterday and the PCMM... One being ran on a BHM and the other being ran early in the season with a top class field.. If those who attended, me included, saw enough in the product to attend more regularly then 2000 plus crowds would be the norm... Running on a normal Monday simply restricts crowds, weekend is "leisure time".. Running several meetings as "meaningless", as the play off positions are set in stone from May, simply restricts crowds... And running meetings when you know (well in advance) that riders will be missing, but happily replacing them with competitor's employees, simply restricts crowds.. It costs me over fifty quid for me and my lad as he works PT and has much better things to spend his money on, meaning we attend three, maybe four times a season.. Get it down to thirty quid for us both and it would easily be double figure attendance for us both... Personally, given the Mickey Mouse operating model, neither of us care who wins (like many others who sporadically attend), as the credibility of the competitions is almost zero, but we do love watching the racing at the NSS as it can be breathtaking... As you say, that disconnect needs to be sorted... They could start by running meetings on the best night for the fans to attend in the highest numbers.. Run with less riders per team to make supply exceed demand for adhoc and longer term replacements, which then brings credibility.... And set an admission fee that reflects the standing of the sport in the UK, and the 15 mins or so of entertainment that is actually on offer... The core product is still very watchable, the nonsense surrounding it doesn't do it any favours...

Table as at 26.08.2025. Final will be Wrocław vs Toruń:

My car is in front of the stand....

if Glasgow are going well we might se the self releasing tape rubber bands again

Well, it was the BSPL. But they kind of the same thing, both run by Neil vatcher

Correct.

All bar Lebedevs can take a ride ( i think)

As I always remember Buxton on a Sunday afternoon 😂 https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1Drx3Jhkod/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I am well aware that he rides in Denmark, Sweden, Poland and every under 21 and 19 individual meetings, he is delightful to watch , just frustrating that he is away so much. Glad his average has increased but I don't think they equal what he would do.

Dackarna is RR for Jacobsen.

And lots of Aces fans too.... Perfect for a Sunday afternoon in the countryside at NDL level, so no issues with missing riders being elsewhere...

next year it has to be one big league and teams run on what ever day they want, reduced admission to less than £20,maybe 6 man teams, I don’t know how we make all the above work as I understand all the complications that come with it but this has to be the starting point, the sport is at an all time low and on the point of extinction, there is an appetite for speedway but the sport and its potential fan base seem to be worlds apart at the moment

To be honest I don’t understand why stoke never run out of Buxton, most of the Buxton fans were stoke ones

I started going in 1985 and probably finished going regularly in 1991/2,even in 85 you could see things were on the turn Penhall who was a massive draw had retired, Dennis Sigalos who was the heir apparent had a bad ankle injury and was never the same again retiring soon after at a young age. Mike Lee was never as good on his post 85 come back and had several stop start years before leaving the scene, PC, Chris Morten, Dave Jessup, Tiger Louis were all towards the end of their careers. The Lynn team only really had Bob Schwartz as a top rider with the odd flash of the real Lee but we got battered most weeks home and away all be it the crowds in general held up pretty well but it just seemed at that point a lot of the big names had left or were past their peak. The Sky deal should have been the big reset but as others have said the money flowed out to the number one's with nothing reinvested into the general infra-structure. We have also lost a lot of big names in the last 5-10 years as well Crump, Ward, Hancock, Gollob, Adams just a few off the top of my head. Such a shame as the last four heats of the world team cup a couple of years back show that on a decent track with top riders what a quality sport it still can be.

It did happen back in the day, I can remember Neil Evitts doing it at wolves in the latter stages of his career and it really annoys me and last night even though musielak is a friend he annoyed me too, it’s unacceptable imo, it doesn’t happen in Poland because the 3rd place rider will only get paid a bonus point if he finished behind his partner and ahead a finished 4th place rider so it’s respect from the 4th place rider to finish, there was an race a few weeks back where Nicki Pedersen pulled up on last lap while 4th and didn’t cross the finish line and went back to pits so the rider who finished 3rd didn't get paid a bonus point and it was not popular with other riders and fans alike

It's a shame somehwere centralish couldn't be found so Wolves, Brum and Stoke could use it collectively with each team running in the 3 seperate leagues. Maybe a complete BS idea but worth a reply, lol

Just to clarify about people being turned away last night, the stadium has a capacity that is set by the local authority and has to be adhered to by the stadium manager and the appointed safety officer. The club widely advertised advanced tickets which were available at 4 previous Brum meetings and online via Try Bookings and almost 600 were purchased ahead of last night. Everyone with a pre-paid ticket was accommodated AFAIK. Unfortunately, at just before 7.25 pm the legislated stadium capacity was reached. So the perimeter gates were closed, no one in the entry queue at that time was denied access to the stadium and the decision at all times was that of the safety officer and stadium manager, who have to ensure they legally follow protocol. I understand a small number of fans couldn't gain access to the stadium grounds and that of course is disappointing for them and I understand their frustrations/anger, but unfortunately the club couldn't overrule the decision. The promotion have got many things wrong over the 4 years with which I have been involved with the club and I can't disagree with most of what has been said on this forum, but in this instance it was out of the club's control. It was a fantastic turn out to say goodbye to Perry Barr.

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