piston197 209 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) if you google "rebel emblem images" nearly every image has a picture of the Rebel Alliance flag from the Star wars series, nice design, but think there may be copyright problems if this was used by Somerset ? Edited January 28, 2016 by piston197 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) if you google "rebel emblem images" nearly every image has a picture of the Rebel Alliance flag from the Star wars series, nice design, but think there may be copyright problems if this was used by Somerset ? Copyright or perhaps trademark infringement. Edited January 28, 2016 by Ghostwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Stadia 1,071 Posted January 28, 2016 One could also ask the question as to why the use of the flag gained popularity at roughl the same time as the black civil rights movement in the south?Coincidence? Accepting the above Iris.....but how long have Somerset used the flag as their symbol? I am not sure how long, but it is many years, probably around 15 years. Why hasn't it been brought up before? Racism hasn't just been invented! Whichever way one defends Somerset's likely innocent use of the flag as a club symbol, the pressure on the club to drop it's use, is likely to be too much. As someone else said, they can't afford the bad publicity. Perhaps the Somerset 'Rebel' symbol could be related to a modern day British rebel. Perhaps a caricature of a Punk Rocker! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,092 Posted January 29, 2016 Accepting the above Iris.....but how long have Somerset used the flag as their symbol? I am not sure how long, but it is many years, probably around 15 years. Why hasn't it been brought up before? You haven't read through the thread Ray,as I have already shown it has been brought up before.In 2009 at least.I remember discussions on the subject,quite possibly not the 2009 thread.That was just the one that I found within a minute of doing a search....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Stadia 1,071 Posted January 29, 2016 You haven't read through the thread Ray,as I have already shown it has been brought up before.In 2009 at least.I remember discussions on the subject,quite possibly not the 2009 thread.That was just the one that I found within a minute of doing a search....... Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkers in Gravy 120 Posted January 29, 2016 Putting the politics to one side, maybe Somerset would change their logo to something more relevant to a team in the south west of England. Using the Confederate battle flag is pretty naff and actually quite lazy. Why not use the coat of arms of the Duke of Monmouth who led an army of Somerset rebels in an attempt to overthrow King James II in 1685? This is a simplified version of the coat of arms -it sort of puts me in mind of an old Canterbury race jacket. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=duke+of+monmouth+arms&client=tablet-android-samsung&biw=1280&bih=800&prmd=ismvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVt9W1187KAhWL7RQKHTdhB44Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=RZTDnAiPQGDP5M%3A The uprising ended in defeat at Sedgemoor, which may put folk off, but the American Civil War didn't exactly end well for the Confederacy either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pirate Nick 1,801 Posted January 29, 2016 Putting the politics to one side, maybe Somerset would change their logo to something more relevant to a team in the south west of England. Using the Confederate battle flag is pretty naff and actually quite lazy. Why not use the coat of arms of the Duke of Monmouth who led an army of Somerset rebels in an attempt to overthrow King James II in 1685? This is a simplified version of the coat of arms -it sort of puts me in mind of an old Canterbury race jacket. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=duke+of+monmouth+arms&client=tablet-android-samsung&biw=1280&bih=800&prmd=ismvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVt9W1187KAhWL7RQKHTdhB44Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=RZTDnAiPQGDP5M%3A The uprising ended in defeat at Sedgemoor, which may put folk off, but the American Civil War didn't exactly end well for the Confederacy either. They Have. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=duke+of+monmouth+arms&client=tablet-android-samsung&biw=1280&bih=800&prmd=ismvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVt9W1187KAhWL7RQKHTdhB44Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=HXP1qxC2DkD3LM%3A 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkers in Gravy 120 Posted January 29, 2016 They Have. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=duke+of+monmouth+arms&client=tablet-android-samsung&biw=1280&bih=800&prmd=ismvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVt9W1187KAhWL7RQKHTdhB44Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=HXP1qxC2DkD3LM%3A That's the arms of the Duke of Marlborough who put down the rebellion, although at the time he was just John Churchill. He gained his dukedom ironically for his part in deposing James a couple of years later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reviresco 708 Posted January 29, 2016 As Pirate Nick has alluded to, Somerset have already announced a change of team logo and it was this announcement on 19 January that sparked this thread back to life. It seems that some people may have missed this announcement: http://www.somersetrebels.co/news.php?extend.1640 They are retaining the 'Rebels' nickname, but have changed the logo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pirate Nick 1,801 Posted January 29, 2016 That's the arms of the Duke of Marlborough who put down the rebellion, although at the time he was just John Churchill. He gained his dukedom ironically for his part in deposing James a couple of years later.Oops. Identifying coats of arms is always hazardous with dukes 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reviresco 708 Posted January 29, 2016 Oops. Identifying coats of arms is always hazardous with dukes Identifying my coat after an evening at the Duke's Arms is always hazardous... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gee jay 234 Posted January 29, 2016 they could have gone with an image of one of the soldiers of the time , think it might have looked better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reviresco 708 Posted January 29, 2016 they could have gone with an image of one of the soldiers of the time , think it might have looked better. IMO, they probably wanted to move away from any logo associated with guns or violence and went down the route of a mythical creature, associated with the local area, that didn't breathe fire but spat poison... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedibee 3,091 Posted January 29, 2016 Copyright or perhaps trademark infringement. Oh well , its better to feed a few terminally offended then . rather than get in trouble with the movie industry over copyrights etc , just keep the current one everyone wins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) they could have gone with an image of one of the soldiers of the time , think it might have looked better. I agree. I think it would have made for a great logo and fitted better with the nickname. Edited January 29, 2016 by grachan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
