arnieg 3,651 Posted January 20, 2016 Summary of Polish Calendar here: http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/573811/znamy-kalendarz-sportu-zuzlowego-2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted January 23, 2016 Decisions, decisions...18th May - Pila v Daugavpils OR Opole v Kraków Anyone have any thoughts which will be the better option? I wouldn't rush into any decisions as both clubs seem to have potential issues for running at their respective stadiums this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,737 Posted January 24, 2016 Latest info from Sportowefakty on how the team line-ups will be Extraleague http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/570840/sklady-druzyn-pge-ekstraliga-2016 Nice Polska league http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/571313/sklady-druzyn-nice-polska-liga-zuzlowa-2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,997 Posted January 24, 2016 Be interesting to see how Igor Kopeć-Sobczyński goes.When he rode in Germany a few years back people weren't sure if it was a girl or boy riding!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mama 28 Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) Be interesting to see how Igor Kopeć-Sobczyński goes.When he rode in Germany a few years back people weren't sure if it was a girl or boy riding!!!! For now it's rather not a problem Edited January 24, 2016 by Mama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,997 Posted January 25, 2016 I just remember there was a bit of talk on the net about him(her) and questions being asked.Think it might have been on the speedway.org report of the meeting as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mama 28 Posted January 25, 2016 Of course Few years ago he looked like this: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted January 26, 2016 Of course Few years ago he looked like this: Did he also play guitar with ambitions of becoming a rock star? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted February 12, 2016 Can any of our Polish members tells us what this is about? http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/579317/greg-hancock-zaplaci-za-klamstwa-klubow Something about Greg H, something about illegal/illegitimate clauses in the contracts or something like that. It seems, according to the article, that Greg will be fined and possible also loose a large sum of money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted February 13, 2016 Would be nice if one of our Polish posters would help with this one ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted February 13, 2016 Would be nice if one of our Polish posters would help with this one ...... Agreed. Post deleted. Someone else can do the work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted February 13, 2016 Interesting that they are painting Hancock to be the villain in this one. Not sure if't it the writer or google translate though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mama 28 Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Hancock signed few illegal agreements with clubs from Bydgoszcz and Rzeszów. In Bydgoszcz he signed agreement in case of decreasing his results. Polish speedway regulations says that the club may decrease payment to the rider if this rider decrease his position in final league averages classification. Greg signed illegal agreement with Polonia says the club would not decrease his payment. The club management changed at the end of season Greg started in Bydgoszcz and "new people" decided to show this illegal agreement to league authorities. Polonia had to pay the fine but thanks to that the club was able to cut Greg payment of 100.000 zł. Hancock put this case to PZM tribunal but has rather no chance to win. In Rzeszów he signed additional agreement last year - it says that the club should find sponsor for 500.000 zł for Greg, if no - this money should be payed by the club. Such agreement is also illegal (it's like second contract with the same club) but after lat season auditors found it in the club. It means the club don't have to pay this money to Greg but both sides would probably be fined for signing such agreement. Edited February 13, 2016 by Mama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted February 13, 2016 Hancock signed few illegal agreements with clubs from Bydgoszcz and Rzeszów. In Bydgoszcz he signed agreement in case of decreasing his results. Polish speedway regulations says that the club may decrease payment to the rider if this rider decrease his position in final league averages classification. Greg signed illegal agreement with Polonia says the club would not decrease his payment. The club management changed at the end of season Greg started in Bydgoszcz and "new people" decided to show this illegal agreement to league authorities. Polonia had to pay the fine but thanks to that the club was able to cut Greg payment of 100.000 zł. Hancock put this case to PZM tribunal but has rather no chance to win. In Rzeszów he signed additional agreement last year - it says that the club should find sponsor for 500.000 zł for Greg, if no - this money should be payed by the club. Such agreement is also illegal (it's like second contract with the same club) but after lat season auditors found it in the club. It means the club don't have to pay this money to Greg but both sides would probably be fined for signing such agreement. Even while you can say with all honesty that Hancocks extra deals are illegal, they are still agreements between two parties that have been accepted by both. All this crap just underlines the fact that if a rider signs a deal in Poland, he sells his soul( some rider said that) to a sum that might be totally different than what the paper states. And if it comes down to a point that the club fails it's commitments, they make up some excuse and end up fining the rider with PZM backing the club when push come's to shove. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mama 28 Posted February 13, 2016 In these cases both sides of agreements were fined by PZM or Extraleague. But it's not only in Poland - few years ago we had similiar case in Sweden (with Rune Holta? and his club). I think most riders - if they can get really more money than official - are able to sign (or just agree) such illegal agreements Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
