Scunthorpe Scorpions Vs Edinburgh Monarchs ( P L) - Sunday, July 17th (6.30pm)

[Gr8scot 589]

Now hopefully the rule books will be graciously put aside and we can talk about what was really important...... The racing last Sunday!!!

 

IMO both teams deserved so much plaudits for the entertainment served up and win or lose, speedway was the winner.

The video is excellent but no substitute for actually watching the race unfold in real time with the outcome in doubt for 4 full laps and it was only one of many brilliant races

Edited July 22, 2016 by Gr8scot

[Gazc 7,109]

Cheats (again)

[TheScotsman 2,484]

Cheats (again)

 

I'm not sure Scunny cheat THAT often.

 

No average fixing or sun-offs that I can remember.

[SCB 0]

So to confirm, the BSPA declared a few weeks back that Bewdley had to give Edinburgh (PL) priority over BV (NL) but have now decided that rules doesn't matter, it's now the rule about owning clubs/re-arranged meetings that matter?

 

There statement falls at the first hurdle because they made that called a couple of weeks/months back about Edinburgh having priority!

[sparks123 150]

So to confirm, the BSPA declared a few weeks back that Bewdley had to give Edinburgh (PL) priority over BV (NL) but have now decided that rules doesn't matter, it's now the rule about owning clubs/re-arranged meetings that matter?

 

There statement falls at the first hurdle because they made that called a couple of weeks/months back about Edinburgh having priority!

I thought that the guest had to be below 6.00 also (5.99 or lower). The rules also appear to be different from league to league (Thought Seb couldn't guest because his average was from a few years back and riders with an assessed average (5 or 7 points) couldn't guest until they gained an average). Probably wrong after a few pints.

Might have changed but is Davey's average not a converted PL average (he therefore doesn't have a conference league average).

[cyclone 943]

Which contradicts this:-

 

16. FIXTURES, MATCH AVERAGES and GENERAL RULES

The authority of the SCB and BSPA extends over all Meetings listed on the Official BSPA produced and maintained Fixture List.

Changes, including Fixture re-stagings must be approved by the BSPA and no Meeting may be staged unless on the Fixture List.

 

16.1 Fixtures shall take priority as follows:

FIM SGP, SWC, SGP Qualifying Meetings, FIM Junior Speedway Championship Meetings

British Championships (Senior, Junior), BSPA Shared and Fee Events

Official Competitions: 1. Elite League; 2. Premier League; 3.National League.

NB. Non-Official Competitions have no priority over any of the above.

 

A Rider must be released to take part in a higher priority Meeting, unless he is “Doubling Up” or is an “EDR, in which case the priority for a clash of Official Meetings is as follows:

 

16.1.1 The “owning” Club (ie. on Club’s Retained List) or before the start of the Season was

transferred with the full Transfer Fee being paid.

16.1.2 If neither Club has “ownership”, then it is determined by the League status of the Club that

does “own” the rider. If that Club is a NL Club then agreement can be made otherwise Art.16.1 applies.

16.1.3 The Original Fixture if there is a clash with a re-Arranged Fixture

16.1.4 A Transfer during the Season does not change this priority.

 

18. PREMIER LEAGUE MEETING REGULATIONS

18.10 FACILITIES

a1) Absent #1: G or RR

a2) Absent D-U or EDR (if riding for the “other” team) G or RR

b ) 1 Absent rider (2 – 5): RR

c) More than 1 Absent rider (1 - 5) 1 x RR facility and G for all others

d) Absent #6 or #7: G

e) “No Facility”: NL G*

 

NL G*: a rider eligible for a NL Team who has never achieved an actual PL MA of 4.00 or above

 

18.11.3 The Guest must be in a current Team Declaration and have an MA that is the same or lower than that of the absent rider. If a replacement EL rider also has a current PL MA then the higher of the MA’s will dictate the eligibility.

18.11.4 The Guest assumes the position and MA of the Missing rider.

 

Buxton vs B.V. Colts was an Original Fixture, whereas Scunthorpe vs Edinburgh was a Re-Arranged Fixture.

 

Dan Bewley is a Doubling Up rider with BV Colts & Edinburgh

 

Under the Regulations, Belle Vue Colts had priority for the services of Dan Bewley as “Doubling Up” rider, per 16.1.3

 

Therefore Edinburgh were entitled to a Guest Facility as per 18.10.d) for #7 and did not require to be a rider eligible for a NL Team who has never achieved an actual PL MA of 4.00 or above

 

Mitchell Davey is an Edinburgh asset, UK Passport Holder currently riding for Coventry Storm in the National League, and who previously rode for Edinburgh in Premier League in 2013 and his Final PL GSA was 3.00

 

 

 

Mitchell Davey was therefore eligible to Guest for Edinburgh at Scunthorpe in place of Dan Bewley, at no 7 as he met the criteria of 18.11.3 & 18.11.4 of the Regulations

 

 

So to confirm, the BSPA declared a few weeks back that Bewdley had to give Edinburgh (PL) priority over BV (NL) but have now decided that rules doesn't matter, it's now the rule about owning clubs/re-arranged meetings that matter?

 

There statement falls at the first hurdle because they made that called a couple of weeks/months back about Edinburgh having priority!

 

SCB can you provide details of where and when the BSPA declared that Bewley's (helps if you can spell the rider's name correctly btw ) riding commitments between Edinburgh & BV Colts would be treated outwith the Regulations referred to above (i.e. Edinburgh would always have priority, irrespective of the rules)?

 

Dare I suggest you either have difficulty in comprehending the Regs or are just making it up as you go along?

 

There has been quite a bit of disinformation on here which has already been exposed as unfounded, such as Lucifer Sam falsely claiming that Edinburgh had only declared Davey on Sunday morning, as the SCB announcement on 22/7 has proved, and it appears likes of you, Lucifer Sam & the usual jealous anti-Edinburgh suspects on here, are hell bent on doing so, irrespective of the truth

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SCB has made its ruling it's on there Website, makes Rob Godfrey look a right fool,

[edmon 166]

As it does one of the applicants for SCB job.

[Bagpuss 10,794]

I don't see how anybody has been made to 'look a fool' if there are rules in the rulebook which directly contradict eachother.

[RS50 359]

I don't see how anybody has been made to 'look a fool' if there are rules in the rulebook which directly contradict eachother.

Apart from the people who made the regulations

Edited July 23, 2016 by RS50