GS550 449 Posted August 29, 2016 Fair point Yeah, not sure why mechanics become involved. A bit of handbags is fine, but it should be between the two riders only (after they've dismounted from the bikes, of course). It's a bit like the GP last year. If Nicki and Sam Masters want to have a barney, that's between them, but why did Nicki's crew pit dive in and confront Masters... no need. All the best Rob Fair point indeed. By the way don't let the weirdo get to you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoda 81 Posted August 29, 2016 The Ref should be handing out fines to mechanics who go fighting.I agree let the riders sort themselves out,mechanics should not be interfering. They do . Via the rider up to the rider to pass on the fine. Aaron summers mechanic got a £80 fine last season for a fist fight on track (ironic eh) However in the Edinburgh pits the ref can not see what goes on , he can only go on what the Clerk of the course reports to him. If he didn't see it then end of. I'm not condoning the actions of a Edinburgh pit crew member , however the paper says it was unprovoked I've seen photos of Aaron being held back on the track by another mechanic trying to calm him down. Now to me that makes it seem a total different story to that in the paper. It's a heat of the moment incident and probably would have been forgetting about , but dragged up in a trashy paper More coverage about this than you normally get ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted August 29, 2016 The Ref should be handing out fines to mechanics who go fighting.I agree let the riders sort themselves out,mechanics should not be interfering. It is within the rules to exclude offending mechanics/hangers on, etc, from the pits, and also fine the rider for not controlling his pit crew. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8scot 589 Posted August 29, 2016 Why don't you two continue your spat on the Scunny- Edinburgh page and give us peace? Or take it to personal messages and give us all peace. It's in the past now and won't be changed so it's time to move on as you will obviously never agree 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,414 Posted August 29, 2016 They do . Via the rider up to the rider to pass on the fine. Aaron summers mechanic got a £80 fine last season for a fist fight on track (ironic eh) However in the Edinburgh pits the ref can not see what goes on , he can only go on what the Clerk of the course reports to him. If he didn't see it then end of. I'm not condoning the actions of a Edinburgh pit crew member , however the paper says it was unprovoked I've seen photos of Aaron being held back on the track by another mechanic trying to calm him down. Now to me that makes it seem a total different story to that in the paper. It's a heat of the moment incident and probably would have been forgetting about , but dragged up in a trashy paper More coverage about this than you normally get ? Thats the problem the Home Clerk of the Course never sees anything concerning a home rider or mechanic, end of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyretrax 2,257 Posted August 29, 2016 It is within the rules to exclude offending mechanics/hangers on, etc, from the pits, and also fine the rider for not controlling his pit crew. I can see a ban coming up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8scot 589 Posted August 29, 2016 The Ref should be handing out fines to mechanics who go fighting.I agree let the riders sort themselves out,mechanics should not be interfering. The ref can only act on what he sees ..... Or what is reported by an official, but ...... That's where the "3 monkey syndrome" kicks in OR the "gob" that wants a rider banned As I've said before, speedway is a high adrenaline sport and red mist is almost certain to descend occasionally For the record, I do not condone mechanics involvement except to pull the hyper riders away and calm the situation down 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
george.m 3,063 Posted August 29, 2016 They do . Via the rider up to the rider to pass on the fine. Aaron summers mechanic got a £80 fine last season for a fist fight on track (ironic eh) However in the Edinburgh pits the ref can not see what goes on , he can only go on what the Clerk of the course reports to him. If he didn't see it then end of. I'm not condoning the actions of a Edinburgh pit crew member , however the paper says it was unprovoked I've seen photos of Aaron being held back on the track by another mechanic trying to calm him down. Now to me that makes it seem a total different story to that in the paper. It's a heat of the moment incident and probably would have been forgetting about , but dragged up in a trashy paper More coverage about this than you normally get ? If you're referring to yesterday's Sun article where does it say "unprovoked"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MD 1,319 Posted August 29, 2016 In the early 2000's there was a pits altercation between a mechanic/ helper / hanger on and Peter Carr that resulted in the rider getting a broken collarbone. At the return fixture at Arma, Campbell declined entry to that individual. Perhaps this should be applied in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Blobby 2,684 Posted August 29, 2016 1. It's the sun they make up stories on a daily basis 2. Not even they are sure if it actually happened considering they said in the article "allegedly headbutted" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted August 29, 2016 Here is the verbatim extract from the SCB Statement of 22/7/2016 :- "Furthermore, Edinburgh advised Scunthorpe by SMS at 15:14 on Friday 15th July (72 hours prior to the Meeting Start time) of the fact that Mitchell Davey would be the G rider replacing Dan Bewley." Are you implying that the veracity of the SCB statement is false and your allegation of events is true and accurate? I know who I believe, and perhaps the SCB and the BSPA will not take too kindly to Scunthorpe Speedway's Press Officer publicly accusing them of issuing false content and refusing to retract his comments. that statement is false surely?? Fri 15th july to sunday 17th july= 72 hours??? Am i missing something here, as usual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyretrax 2,257 Posted August 30, 2016 In the early 2000's there was a pits altercation between a mechanic/ helper / hanger on and Peter Carr that resulted in the rider getting a broken collarbone. At the return fixture at Arma, Campbell declined entry to that individual. Perhaps this should be applied in this case. It was a supporter and he was banned from Ashfield for a few seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
george.m 3,063 Posted August 30, 2016 1. It's the sun they make up stories on a daily basis 2. Not even they are sure if it actually happened considering they said in the article "allegedly headbutted" Mr B defending the realm for a change! Well, if The Sun story proves to be correct, then his credibility is less than The Sun. Allegedly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone 943 Posted August 30, 2016 Re Friday's meeting, this quote from the Edinburgh website is worth mentioning:- "The collection for the Speedway Riders Benevolent Fund on Friday raised the magnificent sum of £1580.45. Thanks to all who contributed so generously and to the riders of both teams who enthusiastically uplifted the collection." P.S. My donation went in Aaron Summers bucket 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,484 Posted August 30, 2016 A good positive conclusion to this thread perhaps. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites