Woz01 3,589 Posted September 22, 2016 I think Wolves can claw those 12 points back, the 2nd leg will go to the wire. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BurntFaceMan 413 Posted September 22, 2016 I never once said he was acceptable, I said I had no beef with him. We had many a discussion without any abuse. You in particular were deliberately goading him for weeks on end and you got what you wanted. So yes, you did bully him off the forum. Now move on and STOP stalking me on here, on Facebook and at Poole. Because he's British for Gawd's sake! Stalking you? I rarely if ever reply to any of your posts! You seem to have a fixation with me and mention me in virtually every post you make! All very weird. Hey guys, Hope you don't mind me intruding, but I've actually put together a little thread for you lot to argue in! http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=82792 It's made specifically for Chris4Gillian, SteveShovlar and Gavan, should he return. Don't get me wrong though, anybody is welcome to join in! We can all be nasty to each other, massage each others egos, split hairs amongst eachother... it's a free for all. Thing is it's getting really annoying having to flick through 20 pages of sh1te to find the 6 decent pages and most of us really just want to chat about speedway... so if you wouldn't mind transferring the argument over there? 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,846 Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) What are your thoughts on PK having a spell at reserve for Wolves, a rider youve stated your fond of? The edr wasnt designed for over the hill Swedes to top up their pension funds, either. Can see Bjarne being PL next season, a good number one for somebody for sure The EDR is a shambles from start to finish. I accept it is necessary to save costs, and it has had some resounding successes notably Steve Worrall, but overall it has not been properly thought through and some promoters acknowledge that, others are quite happy because it has been stitched up to their advantage. I thought it highlighted the ill thought out system when PK went to reserve, but at least PK wasn't there long and has otherwise managed to do the bona fide second string role he was brought in to do. By contrast Bjarne spending such a long time not only brought into focus the glaring inadequacies of the system, which amongst other things allowed Poole to retain Newman as an EDR rider, but it also meant that Bjarne himself was content to wobble around using his experience to get out of the gate ahead of relatively inexperienced youngsters, with very little desire or incentive to get into the 1-5. We can have a whole separate discussion about the inadequacies of the EDR scheme, but basically I think the public woukd get behind riders like Max Clegg and other British youngsters doing a job at reserve but we don't pay good money to see the likes of Pedersen in that role for an extended period gradually knocking up a six point average the easy way. The bottom line is that it's cheating the paying public. Edited September 22, 2016 by E I Addio 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pob 545 Posted September 22, 2016 Bully Gavan off the forum? Get with it. I had the guy on block and never replied to his trolling posts. Others gave the guy the truth about his stinking attitude on here on numerous occassions, which he finally realised made himself look the pillock he was. Only you seemed to think the way he was carrying on was acceptable. No wonder people thought you were one and the same. He has returned to the form he had of 2012. This is the Chris Holder that has been missing for a couple of seasons, with serious injury and also the injury to his mate which affected him. Seems he has put it behind him and the last coulle of months has been riping it up. Putting himself in the shop window for next season ? Has really got going in the past month Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odds On 373 Posted September 22, 2016 I wonder if they did drug testing and machinery testing at Poole last night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted September 22, 2016 Whenever i have seen Newman this year he has improved in my view the stats don't say that though.Last night he was superb he attacked the track and got the rewards.Holder well he is nearly back to his best stylish tough and he will again be challenging for W.Titles fair play to SCB he said Holder would comeback stronger. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABS 231 Posted September 22, 2016 What's with Holder and his terrific form at the moment? Must be an Aussie thing as Doyle super quick too.... hence why Woffy not? Because he's British???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agrotron 955 Posted September 22, 2016 What was Lindgren getting excited about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted September 22, 2016 Cracker of a meeting! A 12 point lead should feel rather comfy, but can't help but feel the momentum will go just as much the Wolves way at home as it has for us! I can't imagine Lindback firing at Wolverhampton considering how out of depth he seemed at Poole tonight with his return to British tracks. His top level racing experience helped clinch him some important points, but I don't think he will be able to match the scoring power of Woffinden who I feel will much more easily slip into the groove at the familiar Monmore Green. I woiuldn't worry about Bjarne, he obviously wasn't fully fit and still suffering from whatever it was that stopped him riding at Gniezno last weekend, he was very good last time at Wolves although riding at reserve is easier i would expect an improved performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 22, 2016 What was Lindgren getting excited about? No idea, he only had himself to blame in Heat 15. Led for two laps then stupidly changed his line gifting Holder the pass... (third time Holder had that gift). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,642 Posted September 22, 2016 No body seems to know?! Maybe next week's SS will reveal?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ndbendbeerhut 1,781 Posted September 22, 2016 I know Woffy is British hence why he not on it like his Aussie mates..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Whenever i have seen Newman this year he has improved in my view the stats don't say that though.Last night he was superb he attacked the track and got the rewards.Holder well he is nearly back to his best stylish tough and he will again be challenging for W.Titles fair play to SCB he said Holder would comeback stronger. . Like all of us he has his good days and bad days but he has been off form but picked the right time to bounce back! He was also pretty good at Wolves last time. No idea, he only had himself to blame in Heat 15. Led for two laps then stupidly changed his line gifting Holder the pass... (third time Holder had that gift). Not sure he would of kept Holder at bay for four laps the form he is in. Holder jumped it . plain as day on Tv Nah just a great start as usual. Edited September 22, 2016 by foreverblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agrotron 955 Posted September 22, 2016 No body seems to know?! Maybe next week's SS will reveal?! Well Stead had perfect opportunity to ask Adams when ht's 15 riders were being announced as Adams said I am putting Freddie in he's angry but Stead totally missed it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobC 664 Posted September 22, 2016 Really good day out. Leisurely drive from Devon, lunch in Dorchester, a couple of hours with my Dad (who lives 200 metres from the stadium) and onto speedway. Lovely late summers evening, if a little chilly. Speedway under lights,perfect.Well done to both teams for an excellent evenings racing. Hard fought with some good passing. Will 12pts be enough for Poole? Slightly worryingly for me is that Pooles 1-5 only outscored an under performing Wolves 1-5 by only 2pts, Im sure there will be reasons, but I found it strange that Thorssell wasnt in Ht15. He was gating and being a nuisance all night. Far more that Freddie or Tai. Couple of comments. Ht1, Holder riding hard under Lindgren. Both were out by the fence after coming off gates 3&4. For sure, Holder was going to try and block Lindgrens run.Unfortunately he lifted a little when he wouldnt have wanted to. Very very hard. What would have happened if Lindgren had gone down? 50/50 call for me. On the other hand, I thought Howarths move on Ellis was deliberate.Others had ridden hard into turn 3 and kept their lines on the inside. He knew what he was doing as when he got back to the pits he immediately looked out for Ellis and quickly tried to get out of his way. Couldnt hear what was being said, but you could clearly hear raised voices. (I was stood close to the big screen). Not a huge crowd, but round 1st & 2nd turns in was 2 deep all the way round, 3 deep in places. The 2nd leg is going to be very intriguing. Of course, I want Poole to win and hope they do, but the scoreline from last night could easily be reversed. C'mon you Pirates. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites