lisa-colette 6,031 Posted October 24, 2018 For your info Gavan I didn't say that the ref made the right decision. I said from the back and side angle it looked 50/50 and the front angle looked like there was contact. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted October 24, 2018 The guest rider rule wasn't amended, they just ignored it for one meeting only. The front angle didn't look like there was contact, it showed that there clearly was contact. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,031 Posted October 24, 2018 45 minutes ago, Aces51 said: The guest rider rule wasn't amended, they just ignored it for one meeting only. The front angle didn't look like there was contact, it showed that there clearly was contact. Okay, so there was contact. It's a shame you don't get to hear the ref's reasoning for making that decision. Maybe he thought MPT could have stayed on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted October 24, 2018 It would be interesting to hear his reason but the vast majority of those who have expressed an opinion think it clear cut that Jacobsen was at fault. We are told that these things even out over a season, maybe they do but it is always unfortunate when they happen in such important meetings. Particularly so when TV evidence clearly shows what happened. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 9:49 AM, Gavan said: 2018........the season that speedway league racing died in the UK Indeed, that is sadly the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted October 24, 2018 Should have been r/r for both teams then there would not have been a problem 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted October 24, 2018 Yawn..............................!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted October 24, 2018 So Gavan, now you are back from another deserved ban, are you going to congratulate Poole for another backs to the wall remarkable championship? 8 in 16 years. How good is that? Await you sending your congratulations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,699 Posted October 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: So Gavan, now you are back from another deserved ban, are you going to congratulate Poole for another backs to the wall remarkable championship? 8 in 16 years. How good is that? Await you sending your congratulations. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,287 Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Aces51 said: The guest rider rule wasn't amended, they just ignored it for one meeting only. The front angle didn't look like there was contact, it showed that there clearly was contact. Luck and injuries aside, it's speedway and things like that happen I guess. It's the Morris bit that gets me. A rule that's probably been in place and followed for I don't know 10 or 20 years maybe can be ignored once for 1 team in the most important meeting of the year is just wrong.. and should not of been allowed to happen... Lynn v Poole...The Pirates have 1 rider out and are allowed Morris 6.91 for Kurtz 6.75. Lynn v Somerset cup final....Rebels have 4 riders out . They use C. Wright for BWD at home, but can't use him in the 2nd leg because he don't fit.. BWD 5.22 and Wright 5.27.. I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but what a shower of rubbish the powers that be are.. Edited October 24, 2018 by Bald Bloke 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted October 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Luck and injuries aside, it's speedway and things like that happen I guess. It's the Morris bit that gets me. A rule that's probably been in place and followed for I don't know 10 or 20 years maybe can be ignored once for 1 team in the most important meeting of the year is just wrong.. and should not of been allowed to happen... Lynn v Poole...The Pirates have 1 rider out and are allowed Morris 6.91 for Kurtz 6.75. Lynn v Somerset cup final....Rebels have 4 riders out . They use C. Wright for BWD at home, but can't use him in the 2nd leg because he don't fit.. BWD 5.22 and Wright 5.27.. I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but what a shower of rubbish the powers that be are.. As it appears some can still not let this go, lets not forget that it was Kings Lynn that proposed the line-ups for the final (as confirmed by Dale Allitt) and the BSPA Chairman would also have known that Morris' final season average was actually below that of Kurtz, even though it wasn't yet publicised on the SGB website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted October 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Luck and injuries aside, it's speedway and things like that happen I guess. It's the Morris bit that gets me. A rule that's probably been in place and followed for I don't know 10 or 20 years maybe can be ignored once for 1 team in the most important meeting of the year is just wrong.. and should not of been allowed to happen... Lynn v Poole...The Pirates have 1 rider out and are allowed Morris 6.91 for Kurtz 6.75. Lynn v Somerset cup final....Rebels have 4 riders out . They use C. Wright for BWD at home, but can't use him in the 2nd leg because he don't fit.. BWD 5.22 and Wright 5.27.. I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but what a shower of rubbish the powers that be are.. No i agree it shouldn't have been allowed but it was KL who instigated it but Poole shouldn't have agreed to it, it is our fault to getting sucked in by Buster Chapman who desperately wanted Ellis for both legs when Poole had already booked him for the second leg. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,287 Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: As it appears some can still not let this go, lets not forget that it was Kings Lynn that proposed the line-ups for the final (as confirmed by Dale Allitt) and the BSPA Chairman would also have known that Morris' final season average was actually below that of Kurtz, even though it wasn't yet publicised on the SGB website. Don't matter who proposed it, it shouldn't of been allowed to happen is my gripe. Not Lynn or Poole's fault it was allowed.. I believe Morris had an average of 6.91 at the time of the meeting. His average was due to drop below 6.75 after the season had finished. The season hadn't finished 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,287 Posted October 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, foreverblue said: No i agree it shouldn't have been allowed but it was KL who instigated it but Poole shouldn't have agreed to it, it is our fault to getting sucked in by Buster Chapman who desperately wanted Ellis for both legs when Poole had already booked him for the second leg. I don't blame Lynn or Poole. It's the people that run the sport that allowed it to happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Don't matter who proposed it, it shouldn't of been allowed to happen is my gripe. Not Lynn or Poole's fault it was allowed.. I believe Morris had an average of 6.91 at the time of the meeting. His average was due to drop below 6.75 after the season had finished. The season hadn't finished The rolling averages would have been used (Morris 6.74) for October 8th/10th fixtures as there were no fixtures from November! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
