dog 173 Posted September 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, BrizHeathen said: Its a laughable decision. Cook is guilty of starting the whole sequence of events which led to other bans. In essence his club as got off scott free....not fair at all. What is even more laughable is people saying 'leave him alone, he's got mental health issues'...well if that's the case he definitely should not be on a speedway track right now. Lots of people have mental health issues, myself included. Sometimes people need to be cut some slack at times. However, if this incident was due to his health issues then, as you say, should he be on the shale in what can be a volatile environment? Feel very sorry for Vissing. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,954 Posted September 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Star Lady said: Agree that SCB should give reasons but the other riders involved had the same chance as Cook to appeal, and didn't, so no sympathy from me. Not true in Vissing's case - he was rejected an appeal: http://www.scbgb.co.uk/news.php?extend.88.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doctor... 1,478 Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, lucifer sam said: Not true in Vissing's case - he was rejected an appeal: http://www.scbgb.co.uk/news.php?extend.88.1 I think the crux is that Cook's was a procedural appeal rather than saying i'm not guilty etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,954 Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Doctor... said: I think the crux is that Cook's was a procedural appeal rather than saying i'm not guilty etc. Maybe. It doesn't say that in the statement, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,070 Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Argos said: All money from SCB/BSPA fines goes into the BEN FUND Still? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R87 476 Posted September 12, 2019 Wow. That "statement " tells you all you need to know about British Speedway. "This is what's happening" "Why?" "Because we said so". No explanation. No reasoning. Just contempt for the paying public. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byker Biker 472 Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, iainb said: To be fair the BSPA do need the money The money still goes to the SRBF Edited September 13, 2019 by Byker Biker 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,070 Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Byker Biker said: The money still goes to the SRBF good, I'm glad to hear it... I was making a joke though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,507 Posted September 13, 2019 17 hours ago, BrizHeathen said: Its a laughable decision. Cook is guilty of starting the whole sequence of events which led to other bans. In essence his club as got off scott free....not fair at all. What is even more laughable is people saying 'leave him alone, he's got mental health issues'...well if that's the case he definitely should not be on a speedway track right now. I blame his great great great grandparents, if they hadn't got together none of this would have happened. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragdoll64 648 Posted September 13, 2019 Dear God!........only four pages so far.........ridiculous........lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted September 13, 2019 Great news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Al 709 Posted September 13, 2019 20 hours ago, dog said: Lots of people have mental health issues, myself included. Sometimes people need to be cut some slack at times. However, if this incident was due to his health issues then, as you say, should he be on the shale in what can be a volatile environment? Feel very sorry for Vissing. Some comments made by (I think) Dale Allitt in the SS last week were worth reading a few times. I came to the conclusion from his words that at Wolverhampton, Cook was taken out of the match by Paramedics because he was experiencing some kind of mental meltdown, which Allitt found distressing to witness. If that was actually what happened, then shouldn't Craig Cook have been automatically barred from riding for a set time period, both for his own well being, and the safety of other riders? 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted September 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Big Al said: Some comments made by (I think) Dale Allitt in the SS last week were worth reading a few times. I came to the conclusion from his words that at Wolverhampton, Cook was taken out of the match by Paramedics because he was experiencing some kind of mental meltdown, which Allitt found distressing to witness. If that was actually what happened, then shouldn't Craig Cook have been automatically barred from riding for a set time period, both for his own well being, and the safety of other riders? Yes, he should have been automatically barred for a set period of time. For everyone's safety ( including his own ). Allitt's description was painful to read and we can only imagine how much more painful to witness. The BSPA and the SCB always claim that rider safety is their highest priority, but it does not seem so in this case. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westhamboy66 599 Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 11:27 AM, Star Lady said: Agree that SCB should give reasons but the other riders involved had the same chance as Cook to appeal, and didn't, so no sympathy from me. Nonsense, if you had been there you would understand One rider was the cause, one rider used violent conduct, one innocent member of staff was assaulted by that rider, given that a video emerged then the decision was a disgrace. The reason the other two riders chose not to appeal was if it had been seen as frivolous the ban could have been extended. It must be embarrassing having that rider connected to your club. I was there I assume you wasn't. I am not an Eastbourne supporter nor have I an axe to grind with the rider who caused this unsavoury incident and bought our once great sport into disrepute. Amazing decision given that Mr Vacher was there for the incident Few have little respect for the BSPA now I have zero respect for the SCB 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, westhamboy66 said: Nonsense, if you had been there you would understand I wasn't there as I made clear on earlier postings on other threads One rider was the cause, one rider used violent conduct, one innocent member of staff was assaulted by that rider, given that a video emerged then the decision was a disgrace. That's your opinion and I respect it. However I have a different interpretation based on a video of the incident. The reason the other two riders chose not to appeal was if it had been seen as frivolous the ban could have been extended. As I've been told by other posters, Vissing did appeal, so I assume that also is your opinion, cos it's at odds with his actions. It must be embarrassing having that rider connected to your club. You clearly do not read King's Lynn threads, if you did you would know I'm not a King's Lynn Supporter anymore and haven't been for some time. I'm not a particular fan of Craig Cook either. I was there I assume you wasn't. I am not an Eastbourne supporter nor have I an axe to grind with the rider who caused this unsavoury incident and bought our once great sport into disrepute. Amazing decision given that Mr Vacher was there for the incident Few have little respect for the BSPA now I have zero respect for the SCB Now on that we can agree. However unless or until the SCB in it's infinite wisdom *cough cough* choose to elaborate on why they made the decision they did, we have to accept it. That's the civilised way the British have always done, we respect the decision of "courts" of law which is why I said they should give the reasons for their judgement. It's that or total anarchy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites