mikebv 10,277 Posted December 28, 2022 16 hours ago, Deano said: let me take your car away, help me look for another one once I’ve crushed your current one. its f’ing ridiculous. But you have to park the new one 45 minutes away from where you live.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,277 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) They should be made to build the track and stadium at the Abbey site as that is the stipulation legally bound as part of the planning permission.. It doesnt even matter if it is viable or not to run Speedway there, as that is irrelevant as part of any planning permission requirements... And surely a track "up to 45 mins away" has to have less chance of being "viable" than a brand new one on the very site where Speedway has ran for decades? Absolutely no guarantee that this track "somewhere else" will be viable so what is there to lose by "staying put"?.. Surely someone is asking these questions within some kind of organised fans' pressure group? Edited December 28, 2022 by mikebv 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted December 28, 2022 4 hours ago, mikebv said: They should be made to build the track and stadium at the Abbey site as that is the stipulation legally bound as part of the planning permission.. It doesnt even matter if it is viable or not to run Speedway there, as that is irrelevant as part of any planning permission requirements... And surely a track "up to 45 mins away" has to have less chance of being "viable" than a brand new one on the very site where Speedway has ran for decades? Absolutely no guarantee that this track "somewhere else" will be viable so what is there to lose by "staying put"?.. Surely someone is asking these questions within some kind of organised fans' pressure group? However 'supportive' the local MP is/has been, surely if there is no supporters group actively campaigning for speedway at the Abbey, then one can see that support diminish very quickly. What happened to those banner wavers that turned up at Blunsdon to protest some weeks ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosty 500 Posted December 28, 2022 6 hours ago, mikebv said: They should be made to build the track and stadium at the Abbey site as that is the stipulation legally bound as part of the planning permission.. It doesnt even matter if it is viable or not to run Speedway there, as that is irrelevant as part of any planning permission requirements... And surely a track "up to 45 mins away" has to have less chance of being "viable" than a brand new one on the very site where Speedway has ran for decades? Absolutely no guarantee that this track "somewhere else" will be viable so what is there to lose by "staying put"?.. Surely someone is asking these questions within some kind of organised fans' pressure group? Maybe Osbourne knows he has to build a track, so why not build one miles out of town, that will tick all the boxes! Then he has the present site to build more houses & pocket more ££££'s. Meanwhile making sure Osbourne PLC. hold the freehold to the new site as another longer term money earner. I'm sure "Ba____ds" like Osbourne are 2 or 3 steps ahead of the rest of us including the local council! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric i 617 Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Ghosty said: Maybe Osbourne knows he has to build a track, so why not build one miles out of town, that will tick all the boxes! Then he has the present site to build more houses & pocket more ££££'s. Meanwhile making sure Osbourne PLC. hold the freehold to the new site as another longer term money earner. I'm sure "Ba____ds" like Osbourne are 2 or 3 steps ahead of the rest of us including the local council! I doubt he will build a track/stadium within 45m of Swindon, more likely he will try to appeal the planning condition that says the stadium must be built. In 5, 10, 15 years down the line he will claim that speedway is no longer a viable sport in or around Swindon and therefore there is no longer a need for a speedway stadium. Whether the council will have much fight in them in 5, 10, 15 years time, I have my doubts. Terry Russel has taken the money(just like he took loads of money out the sport for brokering a tv deal), he has been lying for a long time and is just as bigger a crook as Osbourne. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toady 230 Posted December 28, 2022 Terry Russell financed the remodelled Track at the abbey stadium and funded the robins successful teams over several years so credit where credits due he just got fed up with the lies from osbourne and cashed in his stake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric i 617 Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Toady said: Terry Russell financed the remodelled Track at the abbey stadium and funded the robins successful teams over several years so credit where credits due he just got fed up with the lies from osbourne and cashed in his stake. Why didn't he try to sell/hand over the club and let somebody else take up the fight? He has taken a back hander to be Osbourne's spokesman, repeating the required line 'speedway is unviable'. Why would it be anymore viable 45m out of town? Terry may have played a big part in Swindon's recent success but Swindon' has a long history he has also played a massive part in its downfall. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted December 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, eric i said: Why didn't he try to sell/hand over the club and let somebody else take up the fight? He has taken a back hander to be Osbourne's spokesman, repeating the required line 'speedway is unviable'. Why would it be anymore viable 45m out of town? Terry may have played a big part in Swindon's recent success but Swindon' has a long history he has also played a massive part in its downfall. ...there's that name Osbourne again. Those at Oxford have long memories! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deano 1,318 Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Toady said: Terry Russell financed the remodelled Track at the abbey stadium and funded the robins successful teams over several years so credit where credits due he just got fed up with the lies from osbourne and cashed in his stake. He’s that fed up with the lies, he goes into business with him again. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toady 230 Posted December 29, 2022 12 hours ago, eric i said: Why didn't he try to sell/hand over the club and let somebody else take up the fight? He has taken a back hander to be Osbourne's spokesman, repeating the required line 'speedway is unviable'. Why would it be anymore viable 45m out of town? Terry may have played a big part in Swindon's recent success but Swindon' has a long history he has also played a massive part in its downfall. Oh come on this drivel has been spouted for months now everyone knows that it was all lies and unless fans get together to fight and insist that planning conditions are met then that’s it everyone knows the ultimate outcome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toady 230 Posted December 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Deano said: He’s that fed up with the lies, he goes into business with him again. Yeh right you believe what you want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog 156 Posted December 29, 2022 12 hours ago, steve roberts said: ...there's that name Osbourne again. Those at Oxford have long memories! And Reading 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted December 29, 2022 14 hours ago, eric i said: Why didn't he try to sell/hand over the club and let somebody else take up the fight? He has taken a back hander to be Osbourne's spokesman, repeating the required line 'speedway is unviable'. Why would it be anymore viable 45m out of town? Terry may have played a big part in Swindon's recent success but Swindon' has a long history he has also played a massive part in its downfall. How do you know he didn't? I'm sure there must be loads of past, present and wannabe promoters just itching to take over a club with GI as their landlords?!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric i 617 Posted December 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: How do you know he didn't? I'm sure there must be loads of past, present and wannabe promoters just itching to take over a club with GI as their landlords?!!! If he tried to sell the club why didn't he advertise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dog 413 Posted December 31, 2022 Not a cat in hells chance that speedway will continue at the Abbey and even less likely a new stadium will be built. Its a crying shame but I don't see enough desire from anyone to force the issue and the likes of Osbourne and Russell will do alright out of it all despite their bluster that they are on speedways side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
