GiveusaB 1,145 Posted April 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: Your forgetting about Vissing,if he gates. Or Shanes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonnybegood 258 Posted April 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, Bandits4eva said: 2 ambulances would soon pay for itself when you don’t have to abandon your meetings! Find ways to raise money? If Berwick, Edinburgh, Redcar etc can get 2nd ambulances then I don’t know how others can’t! Plymouth also has 2 ambulances. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiveusaB 1,145 Posted April 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, TTT said: I'd be surprised if Birmingham see out the season after tonight. Some punters won't return after the shambles that's taken place tonight. The way I'm feeling, I think u might be right. I took someone along for their very first meeting too.... really disappointed.... my fault last week coz of my ignorance to the weather, but I totally blame bham this week for not having sufficient medical cover. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiveusaB 1,145 Posted April 20, 2022 Heard that we have a silent investor as part of the consortium? Is their name Billy Smart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted April 20, 2022 52 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: When people are saying you need a second ambulance, that doesn’t mean taking one away from the NHS ambulance service, it would be ‘st john’s’ or a private ambulance/paramedic firm, the same as what your paramedics and ambulance is in the first place I think Poole are using private ambulance firm now based in SW, who do cover a lot of sporting events. Especially as I think there is no A+E at Poole hospital anymore. Not sure if it is viable for Birmingham to do the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byker Biker 472 Posted April 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: Could have a medic or nurse at track to distribute morphine, there are trained personnel I would gather at Brum who could do it Not quite that simple, the medical team need to have "life saving" intervention skills and the facility to undertake them in the event that an apparent minor injury turns out to be more complex than anticipated. A collapsed lung or a cardiac arrest are not uncommon with roadside injuries. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noaksey 345 Posted April 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I think Poole are using private ambulance firm now based in SW, who do cover a lot of sporting events. Especially as I think there is no A+E at Poole hospital anymore. Not sure if it is viable for Birmingham to do the same? It needs to be a rule. If its not viable then they shouldn't be running 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerbat1875 78 Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: Not quite that simple, the medical team need to have "life saving" intervention skills and the facility to undertake them in the event that an apparent minor injury turns out to be more complex than anticipated. A collapsed lung or a cardiac arrest are not uncommon with roadside injuries. I understand that, but any sporting event should not be allowed to go ahead without adequate cover, it should be mandatory that at least 2 ambulaces are available, at least 2 qualified medics should be at the tracks, riders should be allowed to go to the tracks knowing that in such a dangerous sport that their care in the event of an accident is second to none, Imagine this happening in F1, the drivers would be appalled and refuse to race, even Cricket and Tennis have adequate cover, Speedway needs bringing into the 21st century and should be making clubs have proper full cover for medical emergencies, whether that be riders or spectators. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted April 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I think Poole are using private ambulance firm now based in SW, who do cover a lot of sporting events. Especially as I think there is no A+E at Poole hospital anymore. Not sure if it is viable for Birmingham to do the same? Vsst majority if tracks have had private ambulance and paramedic for years. Some tracks have 2 ambulances, some have 2 paramedics. 2 ambulances and 1 paramedic can be a problem if paramedic has to go with the ambulance to hospital. 2 paramedics and 1 ambulance is problem if ambulance has to leave stadium. Some NHS Trusts will only prioritise County NHS ambulance. It's easy to blame Promoters. I blame a Government that has destroyed the NHS and mugged taxpayers off 37 billion to Dido Harding and Michelle Mone for PPE that didn't exist and companies created by MPs to mug us off In Britain's second city a wait for a 999 ambulance at 6 hours is the norm Thats down to Boris Johnson NOT Nigel Tolley and Laurence Rogers 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teromaafan 586 Posted April 20, 2022 Having to debate the level or lack of cover for a dangerous sport is quite embarrassing from the outside. No wonder the sport is a mess when the level of medical cover becomes a financial option. If it keeps Brum afloat this season I will gladly arrange for loads of plasters and paracetamol tablets to be available for race days (sourced from Wilko obviously to keep costs down). As farcical as the situation may seem, the sport needs Brum, but they need to demonstrate that they can be taken seriously with what ever financial resource they have to meet essential health and safety criteria. Oh.. and best wishes to Auty. If he is determined to continue in the sport, I have nothing but admiration for him, since his current outgoings surely fall short of his recent earnings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted April 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: I understand that, but any sporting event should not be allowed to go ahead without adequate cover, it should be mandatory that at least 2 ambulaces are available, at least 2 qualified medics should be at the tracks, riders should be allowed to go to the tracks knowing that in such a dangerous sport that their care in the event of an accident is second to none, Imagine this happening in F1, the drivers would be appalled and refuse to race, even Cricket and Tennis have adequate cover, Speedway needs bringing into the 21st century and should be making clubs have proper full cover for medical emergencies, whether that be riders or spectators. Am sure many would find it very distressing, if say Max Verstappens baby monitor malfunctioned during a virtual safety car and, they had to wait for county ambulance to bring extra tissues!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerbat1875 78 Posted April 20, 2022 Sorry mate, I had to phone an ambulance for my wife not so long ago, there was no 6 hour wait, the ambulance was at my home within 40 mins, thankfully it turned out to be only Kidney Stones, but there was no way it was anywhere near 6 hours waiting. Speedway is a very dangerous sport and should be ready to cater for an emergency, the risk of a serious injury at a speedway track is far greater than most sports, it needs to be sorted because having no ambulance in a sporting evnt in todays day and age is totally unacceptable 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted April 20, 2022 Annoying when that happens, especially after the Redcar meeting in June 2021 had to be abandoned for the same reason. Lessons not being learned. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,375 Posted April 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, HGould said: Vsst majority if tracks have had private ambulance and paramedic for years. Some tracks have 2 ambulances, some have 2 paramedics. 2 ambulances and 1 paramedic can be a problem if paramedic has to go with the ambulance to hospital. 2 paramedics and 1 ambulance is problem if ambulance has to leave stadium. Some NHS Trusts will only prioritise County NHS ambulance. It's easy to blame Promoters. I blame a Government that has destroyed the NHS and mugged taxpayers off 37 billion to Dido Harding and Michelle Mone for PPE that didn't exist and companies created by MPs to mug us off In Britain's second city a wait for a 999 ambulance at 6 hours is the norm Thats down to Boris Johnson NOT Nigel Tolley and Laurence Rogers You should join the SNP you would be most welcome with these comments. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted April 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gerbat1875 said: Sorry mate, I had to phone an ambulance for my wife not so long ago, there was no 6 hour wait, the ambulance was at my home within 40 mins, thankfully it turned out to be only Kidney Stones, but there was no way it was anywhere near 6 hours waiting. Speedway is a very dangerous sport and should be ready to cater for an emergency, the risk of a serious injury at a speedway track is far greater than most sports, it needs to be sorted because having no ambulance in a sporting evnt in todays day and age is totally unacceptable Thats great for you Gerbat and I hope Mrs G is on the mend. Waiting times in parts of West Midlands though are horrendous 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites