Hamish McRaker 601 Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) Excuse me being naive and all that, but I'm curious and concerned about the statements which say that Tai Woffinden was "forced" to ride for Wroclaw yesterday. How can a rider be "forced"? Couldn't Woffinden have simply obtained the necessary medical certification which would presumably have voided insurance. Otherwise, it sounds like Polish speedway is more akin to Rollerball, as portrayed in the film of that name starring James Caan Edited September 25, 2023 by Hamish McRaker Factual 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,621 Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Apart from the Credibility and Integrity of the Competition, which maintains the media coverage, huge sponsorship, and large fanbase, I cant think of any reasons why they dont use guests... Krysztof Harriski maybe could have rode for Wroclaw.... Credibility with a lucky loser lol .Integrity. forcing a unfit rider to ride.lol ..try again . You try to big up that the second leg was going to close without guests and you fell flat on your face as the final turn into a complete joke. . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,355 Posted September 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, orion said: Credibility with a lucky loser lol .Integrity. forcing a unfit rider to ride.lol ..try again . You try to big up that the second leg was going to close without guests and you fell flat on your face as the final turn into a complete joke. . I was amazed that they got so close in the first one.. But at least it keeps gravitas and kudos (and probably most importantly), big financial rewards in winning that competition Which is what all "proper" sporting comps should have... Lose that and the media goes... Then the sponsors... Then the fans... And any sporting contest can be one sided at any time, as that is just the nature of sport.. UK Speedway wont change though as the riders need the money, and the promoters cannot pay them enough to be "exclusive" to them individually... A shame, but that is simply how it is.. Looking forward to a good meeting tonight at the NSS, always great to see Emil and Doyle there... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,670 Posted September 25, 2023 And on the subject of Polish speedway's credibility https://przegladsportowy.onet.pl/zuzel/ekstraliga/liderom-sparty-grozi-zawieszenie-klub-bedzie-sie-tlumaczyl/6zc2zvd?fbclid=IwAR1CWyunDmcfha5S5eyWVehG_14ySmEET-gX9a9oC6H_Mtq_dD909uXPqfE Could Artem and Tai really be that foolish? We await developments ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTT 1,268 Posted September 25, 2023 45 minutes ago, arnieg said: And on the subject of Polish speedway's credibility https://przegladsportowy.onet.pl/zuzel/ekstraliga/liderom-sparty-grozi-zawieszenie-klub-bedzie-sie-tlumaczyl/6zc2zvd?fbclid=IwAR1CWyunDmcfha5S5eyWVehG_14ySmEET-gX9a9oC6H_Mtq_dD909uXPqfE Could Artem and Tai really be that foolish? We await developments ... Should be given a free pass. Wroclaw bosses should have the book thrown at them though because Speedway is a dangerous enough sport without higher ups forcing unfit riders to race a motorbike with no breaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,355 Posted September 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, TTT said: Should be given a free pass. Wroclaw bosses should have the book thrown at them though because Speedway is a dangerous enough sport without higher ups forcing unfit riders to race a motorbike with no breaks. They get gaps between races surely? Plenty of time for a brew... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topsoil 2,498 Posted September 25, 2023 9 hours ago, mikebv said: Apart from the Credibility and Integrity of the Competition, which maintains the media coverage, huge sponsorship, and large fanbase, I cant think of any reasons why they dont use guests... Krysztof Harriski maybe could have rode for Wroclaw.... Because Lucky Loser just screams credibility Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagutaRacingFan 1,940 Posted September 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Hamish McRaker said: Excuse me being naive and all that, but I'm curious and concerned about the statements which say that Tai Woffinden was "forced" to ride for Wroclaw yesterday. How can a rider be "forced"? Couldn't Woffinden have simply obtained the necessary medical certification which would presumably have voided insurance. Otherwise, it sounds like Polish speedway is more akin to Rollerball, as portrayed in the film of that name starring James Caan Wroclaw probably told him that if he doesn't ride, he won't be riding for the club next year. Laguta chose to ride as he wanted to repay the club's support. Wroclaw supported him a lot through the whole Polish/Russian citizenship process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted September 25, 2023 5 hours ago, arnieg said: And on the subject of Polish speedway's credibility https://przegladsportowy.onet.pl/zuzel/ekstraliga/liderom-sparty-grozi-zawieszenie-klub-bedzie-sie-tlumaczyl/6zc2zvd?fbclid=IwAR1CWyunDmcfha5S5eyWVehG_14ySmEET-gX9a9oC6H_Mtq_dD909uXPqfE Could Artem and Tai really be that foolish? We await developments ... It sounds rather sinister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wee Eck 703 Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/25/2023 at 4:32 PM, arnieg said: And on the subject of Polish speedway's credibility https://przegladsportowy.onet.pl/zuzel/ekstraliga/liderom-sparty-grozi-zawieszenie-klub-bedzie-sie-tlumaczyl/6zc2zvd?fbclid=IwAR1CWyunDmcfha5S5eyWVehG_14ySmEET-gX9a9oC6H_Mtq_dD909uXPqfE Could Artem and Tai really be that foolish? We await developments ... PZM have said that, as neither Artem nor Tai were tested before during or after the meeting, there is now nothing for POLADA to find. Wrocław have clarified the treatments received as being anaesthetics rather than banned pain killers. So the much avowed integrity of Polish speedway is maintained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,750 Posted October 8, 2023 Nicki Pedersen leaves Grudziadz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DazS 457 Posted October 8, 2023 Presume Dudek back to Zielona Góra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DazS 457 Posted October 8, 2023 someone must go for Kurtz in extra league~? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeW436 610 Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, racers and royals said: Nicki Pedersen leaves Grudziadz. Is he riding again next year or will that be it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerM22 95 Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, JoeW436 said: Is he riding again next year or will that be it? Possibly in Lg. 1, seems he is/was in discussions with a couple of clubs. Ditched by his Danish club after 21 years too, the end can't be far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites