davie10 58 Posted December 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Jaizer said: Bickley seems to have followed a similar career trajectory as jack Thomas until 2 years ago. Jack signed for us as a teenager and looked a prospect but stagnated as a 2/3 pointer for 3/4 years. Penny seemed to drop at Birmingham in 2021 and looks a totally different rider nowadays (on steal of an average too imo). Hopefully same thing happens with Kyle, might never be world champion but sure can have a decent career at it he was never a prospect he only relied on the name never showed any promise on track Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinderfella 865 Posted December 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, davie10 said: he was never a prospect he only relied on the name never showed any promise on track Are you think of a different Jack? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,649 Posted December 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, davie10 said: he was never a prospect he only relied on the name never showed any promise on track So I imagined him winning the FIM Youth Gold Trophy did I? Of course he was a prospect. (And he undoubtedly has failed to live up to early expectations) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinderfella 865 Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, arnieg said: So I imagined him winning the FIM Youth Gold Trophy did I? Of course he was a prospect. (And he undoubtedly has failed to live up to early expectations) I think part of the problem was the public perception of him coming across as a cocky wee git especially when the photograph of him making hand gestures when he was captain of the BV Colts surfaced. I've heard stories from other riders, mechanics etc who find an arrogance about him but I'm sure the Edinburgh Promotion are more than capable of handling that. He undoubted lost direction when he lost his grandfather but that was few years ago now and perhaps he should have found another mentor to get him back on track (no pun intended) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaizer 2,864 Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, davie10 said: he was never a prospect he only relied on the name never showed any promise on track Think you've got your jack's crossed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fina 78 Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, cinderfella said: I think part of the problem was the public perception of him coming across as a cocky wee git especially when the photograph of him making hand gestures when he was captain of the BV Colts surfaced. I've heard stories from other riders, mechanics etc who find an arrogance about him but I'm sure the Edinburgh Promotion are more than capable of handling that. He undoubted lost direction when he lost his grandfather but that was few years ago now and perhaps he should have found another mentor to get him back on track (no pun intended) I have only known and dealt with Kyle since late in last year & absolutely no hint of arrogance about him as far as I am concerned. That is one of the reasons I sponsored him this year, ahead of a couple of others who were initially higher up my list, but couldn't be bothered with me when I first tried to contact them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,375 Posted December 7, 2022 Kyle must be the only rider in Championship to have 3 FULL SEASONS at reserve with the Clubs he has been signed by.Really needs to start showing more if he wants to go somewhere in the sport.Also season in Poland u/24 league.Not many young riders get these chances. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midget 162 Posted December 8, 2022 Iv never really seen the hype with bickley, there is no natural ability, he just looks like a kid that has had a lot of track time, he rides the bike around instead of racing it round. Imo he won't progress from his current level. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinderfella 865 Posted December 8, 2022 42 minutes ago, Midget said: Iv never really seen the hype with bickley, there is no natural ability, he just looks like a kid that has had a lot of track time, he rides the bike around instead of racing it round. Imo he won't progress from his current level. I wholeheartedly agree. I think confidence has a lot to do with it. At NDL level he knows he has the beating of anyone but at after ht 2 at CL level his mind has him beat before the tapes are up. Considering his time at BV with the Colts all the signs were surely there when The Aces didn't stick with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc131 366 Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, cinderfella said: I wholeheartedly agree. I think confidence has a lot to do with it. At NDL level he knows he has the beating of anyone but at after ht 2 at CL level his mind has him beat before the tapes are up. Considering his time at BV with the Colts all the signs were surely there when The Aces didn't stick with him. he's beat top cl riders even last year he did, he knows himself that has to be more often all the ability is there I personally feel he has to more aggressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,375 Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, mc131 said: he's beat top cl riders even last year he did, he knows himself that has to be more often all the ability is there I personally feel he has to more aggressive. Given the strength of reserves in the league he is a good signing though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc131 366 Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Given the strength of reserves in the league he is a good signing though. I agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davie10 58 Posted December 8, 2022 20 hours ago, Jaizer said: Think you've got your jack's crossed yup my bad hey we all make em eh lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,057 Posted December 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: Given the strength of reserves in the league he is a good signing though. Or if they do better him this year (i think most will) then it doesnt look to good for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SlicktrackSandy 71 Posted December 8, 2022 5 hours ago, mc131 said: he's beat top cl riders even last year he did, he knows himself that has to be more often all the ability is there I personally feel he has to more aggressive. The guy must be highly encouraged after reading all these pages of tripe ! The lad is only 20 y.o. still - all that is history. Let's see what he can do in 2023 with our guys to help him along. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites