Lord Skid 425 Posted June 30, 2023 15 hours ago, heathen52 said: Comments from John Louis about the role of Phil Morris “We want to enhance the professionalism and integrity of the league, as well as making it simple, transparent and fun for the fans to view and understand, and to improve the product and put British speedway back at the top of the tree. Phil can help us do that.” So much for the integrity following on from the none appearance of Laguta at Monmore on Monday. The Louis's run a good operation, don't really need any outside assistance, great when you have like minded people running other Clubs, trouble is those people are in a very small minority, the rest make Del Boy look like Richard Branson. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted June 30, 2023 My observation..... At GPs Phil is clearly "in charge". He controls track preparation and track maintenance during the meeting. He controls the flow of a meeting. He even has a degree of control over the referee. The riders know he's in charge. And just in case you're getting the wrong message, I think he does a great job. But compare all that with his management of Premiership matches. It's clear he has no mandate to control meetings in the same way. His remit is more at the guideline level. Not useless, but not game changing either, by any means. Given that clubs have the power to continue to run things their own way, we'll see no improvement in track preparation, track grading, meeting conduct (apart from when the interval is scheduled) or any other facet that adds to our enjoyment as the paying public. Why was Phil appointed? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byker Biker 472 Posted June 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, False dawn said: My observation..... At GPs Phil is clearly "in charge". He controls track preparation and track maintenance during the meeting. He controls the flow of a meeting. He even has a degree of control over the referee. The riders know he's in charge. And just in case you're getting the wrong message, I think he does a great job. But compare all that with his management of Premiership matches. It's clear he has no mandate to control meetings in the same way. His remit is more at the guideline level. Not useless, but not game changing either, by any means. Given that clubs have the power to continue to run things their own way, we'll see no improvement in track preparation, track grading, meeting conduct (apart from when the interval is scheduled) or any other facet that adds to our enjoyment as the paying public. Why was Phil appointed? How long does it take to turn an oil tanker round? Given that Phil is working under the rules and regulations in place before his appointment his direct influence will not be felt until the AGM and next season Did he not say in the article covering his appointment that he would look at everything before discussing/proposing changes? It rings a bell but I'm not sure, for those of you that wish to see sudden tactile change then you need to be addressing your concerns to the best Magician you can find. Phil's no mug and would want to be in the best possible position for any proposals to have a good chance of working before they are implemented. Let's be honest changes have been implemented for too long without due consideration to the outcome, the BSPAL have been accused of short termism since God was a boy now folk want to criticise Phil for looking at the medium to long term sustainable options. This isn't specifically pointed at you FD but I believe we will start to see Phil's role become more evident in the future. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted June 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: How long does it take to turn an oil tanker round? Given that Phil is working under the rules and regulations in place before his appointment his direct influence will not be felt until the AGM and next season Did he not say in the article covering his appointment that he would look at everything before discussing/proposing changes? It rings a bell but I'm not sure, for those of you that wish to see sudden tactile change then you need to be addressing your concerns to the best Magician you can find. Phil's no mug and would want to be in the best possible position for any proposals to have a good chance of working before they are implemented. Let's be honest changes have been implemented for too long without due consideration to the outcome, the BSPAL have been accused of short termism since God was a boy now folk want to criticise Phil for looking at the medium to long term sustainable options. This isn't specifically pointed at you FD but I believe we will start to see Phil's role become more evident in the future. I don't take anything you've said personally. I will say that my comments reflect the thoughts of many I speak to on the terraces. I'm happy to give Phil the time he needs, but I would like to see some evidence that individual promoters are in support of his cause. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byker Biker 472 Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, False dawn said: I don't take anything you've said personally. I will say that my comments reflect the thoughts of many I speak to on the terraces. I'm happy to give Phil the time he needs, but I would like to see some evidence that individual promoters are in support of his cause. Of course, fair point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,277 Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, False dawn said: My observation..... At GPs Phil is clearly "in charge". He controls track preparation and track maintenance during the meeting. He controls the flow of a meeting. He even has a degree of control over the referee. The riders know he's in charge. And just in case you're getting the wrong message, I think he does a great job. But compare all that with his management of Premiership matches. It's clear he has no mandate to control meetings in the same way. His remit is more at the guideline level. Not useless, but not game changing either, by any means. Given that clubs have the power to continue to run things their own way, we'll see no improvement in track preparation, track grading, meeting conduct (apart from when the interval is scheduled) or any other facet that adds to our enjoyment as the paying public. Why was Phil appointed? I was really hoping that it was at the behest of Discovery... With the reason being that they could see the potential in the UK version of the sport.. But realised it needed someone to be the gatekeeper and almost save the promoters from themselves if the sport was ever to move forward and reach something like its true potential... Sadly I have since realised it is none of that.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted July 1, 2023 6 hours ago, mikebv said: I was really hoping that it was at the behest of Discovery... With the reason being that they could see the potential in the UK version of the sport.. But realised it needed someone to be the gatekeeper and almost save the promoters from themselves if the sport was ever to move forward and reach something like its true potential... Sadly I have since realised it is none of that.... Case of Deja Vu in that John Berry soon realised that he wasn't going to be accepted by some of the promoters and very quickly distanced himself from what the posting was hoping to achieve in bringing the sport together back in the late eighties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
staechmann 9 Posted July 8, 2023 On 4/9/2023 at 4:50 PM, Fortythirtyeight said: Why would I even hazard a guess ? I don’t attend Kings Lynn . I’m telling you it’s not the the CoC who has control, it’s the ref, simple as that . Some tracks don’t have intervals , some do, so they may finish later, but that’s just a guess, try asking the ref at Kings Lynn next time and maybe they will enlighten you. It actually is the Clerk of the Course who releases the riders onto the track, once he is satisfied they are clear to enter. The referee controls the 2 minute warning, and in the SGP he switches on the 2 minutes when the Clerk of the Course (Race Director) gives the ok to open the pit gate to let the riders out. To my knowledge it is no different in British league speedway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 11:07 AM, staechmann said: It actually is the Clerk of the Course who releases the riders onto the track, once he is satisfied they are clear to enter. The referee controls the 2 minute warning, and in the SGP he switches on the 2 minutes when the Clerk of the Course (Race Director) gives the ok to open the pit gate to let the riders out. To my knowledge it is no different in British league speedway. Think in GB they can let the riders out of the pits before the 2 min comes on,unlike in GPs and Poland. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
staechmann 9 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) On 7/11/2023 at 2:45 PM, Fromafar said: Think in GB they can let the riders out of the pits before the 2 min comes on,unlike in GPs and Poland. Correct - although the point was who controls the riders going onto the track, and that is the Clerk of the Course :o) Edited July 23, 2023 by staechmann 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyd 165 Posted August 15, 2023 Watching last nights British Final you could see how determined Phil was to ensure the meeting went ahead last night, there is not many CEO's that would grab a broom and rake and get stuck in on the track work. The camera showed him in his crisp white shirt getting wetter and wetter while clearing water off the track and when it was done he was back in the pits geeing up the riders and getting them out onto track ready to race. The meeting and every race was completed and while the racing was not as good as a dry track would give you at least we saw a meeting. I think Phil deserves full credit and praise for last night as you can see he takes his job seriously and has a determination to take this great sport of ours by the balls and move it forward. (I just hope he gets the backing from Speedway GB he obviously deserves). 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,017 Posted September 19, 2023 If anybody has any doubt what a positive for British Speedway Phil Morris is take a look at his performance at the Coventry Speedway Stadium hearing today. He'd quite clearly done a massive amount of preparation, was well across his brief and was very impressive indeed. Morris start around 2 hours in 9 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Welwyn 62 Posted September 19, 2023 Not to mention, he did this 48 hours after being in Denmark running the GP. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted September 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Welwyn said: Not to mention, he did this 48 hours after being in Denmark running the GP. From Bowen Pies to Celina Liebmann - now that's wide ranging. Best bit was the skewering of Clark Osbourne. It never hurts to make your opponents out to to be duplicitous two-faced liars. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted September 19, 2023 2 hours ago, iainb said: If anybody has any doubt what a positive for British Speedway Phil Morris is take a look at his performance at the Coventry Speedway Stadium hearing today. He'd quite clearly done a massive amount of preparation, was well across his brief and was very impressive indeed. He even managed to "put down" the other side's barrister at one point. Priceless. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites