Mimmo 1,070 Posted July 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, DazS said: sorry to enlighten everyone but speedway is not a safe sport. You are quite right of course. I admire all those riders who take to track, just not to earn money, but entertain the public. There's been so much criticism of two clubs in particular, but in all walks of life, we all have have our own level of ability at whatever our job or recreational activities might be, and speedway riders are doing their best (well most of the time!!). They are putting their lives on the line in an to attempt to entertain us, and we should praise them for that, not keep knocking them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin bass 249 Posted July 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, Mimmo said: Quite right, of course it's safe. It's the material used that puts a lot of the the riders off, im sure it's been said that Chapman uses a clay based mixture rather then just shale at both Lynn and Peterborough and it creates a very grippy track so it seems, the main problem is most of today's riders don't like it heavy and grippy and can't ride a grippy track with confidence, Loram and Screen from yesteryear would have a field day and revel in the conditions, a bit like Harris does now at times, but not the majority of today's gating tartsplus the rocket ships they ride nowadays are so much harder to ride compared to bikes of a few years back if the track ain't smooth and slick and prepared just so. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted July 7, 2023 Remember Dizzy Star told me this Kl line up was better 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimmo 1,070 Posted July 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, orion said: Remember Dizzy Star told me this Kl line up was better It might be, not enough time to tell yet!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,780 Posted July 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, orion said: Remember Dizzy Star told me this Kl line up was better Strictly speaking the line up being referred to had Jakobsen, Palm Toft and Edwards in it and the real prospect of Pickering returning but I very much take your point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,890 Posted July 7, 2023 Out of interest, everybody keeps referring to Lambert saying “as it is” in his interview, but for those of us who haven’t seen it, what’s a quick summary of what he said? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,287 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Najjer said: Out of interest, everybody keeps referring to Lambert saying “as it is” in his interview, but for those of us who haven’t seen it, what’s a quick summary of what he said? I was taken aback how laid back he was. There was a sun break, so they spoke to him for about 5 mins. When they asked him about his win over Toby, he casually said it was my best win so far, but thats just one race.. When asked about the sun interval .....It will be good for Buster to sell some beer and burgers. He mentioned the teams struggles this season, the track. He said it was grippier in his 2nd ride than his first and he was surprised by that .That kind of thing.. Not having a dig at anyone, just come across as a very laid back kind of bloke. I can't remember it all. I would need to watch it back. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted July 7, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 8:32 AM, Daniel Smith said: Hang on a second, if you're willingly accepting conversation with regards the goings on trackside (which is a good thing by the way), why not just say now on the forum? Of course, you'll probably get some s#!t for it but why not be open & honest with all, rather than one? This is all every fans wants in the first place. Probably because he will talk to the REAL fans at the stadium & not the ex fans(trolls) on the forum spouting doom & gloom at every opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Probably because he will talk to the REAL fans at the stadium & not the ex fans(trolls) on the forum spouting doom & gloom at every opportunity. And there you have it - the exact approach that many promoters and the sport generally takes with regard to its customers! Those no longer attending/attending less regularly but still with an underlying love of the sport are dismissed with disdain when really these need to be listened too constructively Instead only happy clapper ar$elickers sycophantically tugging their forlocks submissivally are desired for conversation Edited July 7, 2023 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,661 Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: And there you have it - the exact approach that many promoters and the sport generally takes with regard to its customers! Those no longer attending/attending less regularly but still with an underlying love of the sport are dismissed with disdain when really these need to be listened too constructively Instead only happy clapper ar$elickers sycophantically tugging their forlocks submissivally are desired for conversation This 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandking072 151 Posted July 7, 2023 Would anyone have the race times for this meeting please? Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarBoy 165 Posted July 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: And there you have it - the exact approach that many promoters and the sport generally takes with regard to its customers! Those no longer attending/attending less regularly but still with an underlying love of the sport are dismissed with disdain when really these need to be listened too constructively Instead only happy clapper ar$elickers sycophantically tugging their forlocks submissivally are desired for conversation At least we're not asked to put the air fences up, clean toilet etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted July 7, 2023 Just caught up with this meeting on BSN. And people have a pop at the Poole track? Howarth summed it up perfectly. No one wants to ride in heat 15, regardless of pay, as the track is bad. Got grippier as the meeting went on and was grippy at the start. Howarth said for some unknown reason the track staff worked on the track to make it as grippy as possible (not his exact words) It’s clear both Klindt and Laguta just want to get through the meeting unscathed regardless of whether they score or not. The track is dangerous. The whole surface needs taking off and shale put down. For some reason Kings Lynn want to race on clay and the riders are clearly struggling. It’s not those with the biggest gonads don’t have an issue, it’s unsafe as the way bikes are today makes riding them difficult to turn. Seems Kings Lynn want to have a different surface for the sake of it. Not in the best interests of the sport. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarBoy 165 Posted July 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Just caught up with this meeting on BSN. And people have a pop at the Poole track? Howarth summed it up perfectly. No one wants to ride in heat 15, regardless of pay, as the track is bad. Got grippier as the meeting went on and was grippy at the start. Howarth said for some unknown reason the track staff worked on the track to make it as grippy as possible (not his exact words) It’s clear both Klindt and Laguta just want to get through the meeting unscathed regardless of whether they score or not. The track is dangerous. The whole surface needs taking off and shale put down. For some reason Kings Lynn want to race on clay and the riders are clearly struggling. It’s not those with the biggest gonads don’t have an issue, it’s unsafe as the way bikes are today makes riding them difficult to turn. Seems Kings Lynn want to have a different surface for the sake of it. Not in the best interests of the sport. King's Lynn want to have a different surface due to stock cars/bangers bringing in the majority of revenue. It's not feasible to rip up the clay and replace it with shale for when there is a speedway meeting or vice versa. From a business perspective the speedway attendances just don't dictate doing this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted July 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Just caught up with this meeting on BSN. And people have a pop at the Poole track? Howarth summed it up perfectly. No one wants to ride in heat 15, regardless of pay, as the track is bad. Got grippier as the meeting went on and was grippy at the start. Howarth said for some unknown reason the track staff worked on the track to make it as grippy as possible (not his exact words) It’s clear both Klindt and Laguta just want to get through the meeting unscathed regardless of whether they score or not. The track is dangerous. The whole surface needs taking off and shale put down. For some reason Kings Lynn want to race on clay and the riders are clearly struggling. It’s not those with the biggest gonads don’t have an issue, it’s unsafe as the way bikes are today makes riding them difficult to turn. Seems Kings Lynn want to have a different surface for the sake of it. Not in the best interests of the sport. 12 minutes ago, StarBoy said: King's Lynn want to have a different surface due to stock cars/bangers bringing in the majority of revenue. It's not feasible to rip up the clay and replace it with shale for when there is a speedway meeting or vice versa. From a business perspective the speedway attendances just don't dictate doing this. Exactly this.... The stocks make the money so call the tune Share this post Link to post Share on other sites