Fortythirtyeight 841 Posted August 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: Is wimborne road used for anything else? I know they've said after 2024 they don't know where they'll be, surely with the Fords backing they could buy land and build their own stadium? Why would any businessman want to do that with the sport in its current state ? it would take years of good crowds to even come near getting your investment back , assuming you could actually find anywhere suitable to build such a facility in or even near Poole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gazzac 1,015 Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: Is wimborne road used for anything else? I know they've said after 2024 they don't know where they'll be, surely with the Fords backing they could buy land and build their own stadium? Can only think the comment is a joke( and I'm not from Poole or a fan) , if not I bet the Ford's would like to have the money you think they have. Can you imagine land and planning becoming available/viable in the Poole area as well. ( posted exactly the same time as FortyThirtyEight but exactly the same thought) . Edited August 10, 2023 by gazzac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noelinho 922 Posted August 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: Is wimborne road used for anything else? I know they've said after 2024 they don't know where they'll be, surely with the Fords backing they could buy land and build their own stadium? Land is painfully expensive, before you even build anything. Especially if there’s any possibility houses could be built on the land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianbuck 928 Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) This topic seems to have moved away from "we like (or don't like!) Poole, but I've been reading through it with interest. My opinion is that although there is a certain amount of envy over Poole's lengthy success, one of the reasons why the club is unpopular is the way that some of their supporters (not all of them of course, but a vocal minority) instantly over-react to any form of criticism whether it be about their track, their management or their team manager etc. In many ways, Poole are a great example to other clubs, and I certainly don't begrudge them their success which is obviously good for Poole fans, although I feel it isn't good for the sport overall, to have one team dominating all the competitions year after year. Perhaps if some of the more touchy Poole fans would let the criticism ride over them, and not feel that they must reply to it, things would settle a bit? Edited August 10, 2023 by brianbuck 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,735 Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Why would any businessman want to do that with the sport in its current state ? it would take years of good crowds to even come near getting your investment back , assuming you could actually find anywhere suitable to build such a facility in or even near Poole. Once speedway goes under, you sell on the land for no doubt more than you paid for it, leaving just the costs of planning/building the stadium (which I know aren’t cheap) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Biffa 84 Posted August 10, 2023 Better ask the Workington promoter then , FortyThirtyeight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Sidney 292 Posted August 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Heat 8 Rowe passed Heeps up the inside of bend four. I didn't say there was no passing. Even you said the racing wasn't great last night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MMX Events 101 Posted August 10, 2023 My opinion but, sometimes, passing in every race isn’t always all that makes a meeting. To a newbie it means a lot to see riders going wheel to wheel and swapping positions.. or simply overtaking. That is Speedway in its most simplistic essence and, yes we all love that. In reality, these days, it is a little rarer and, so, is much appreciated when it happens… However, I like to think there are many more layers to a meeting. For those of us that appreciate the finer points, there is as much excitement on a close scoreline where heat by heat the match can hang on the result of the next four laps. Last night the Pirates were chasing the bonus point and it was tense to see them real in the 14 point advantage and then to see it snap back and forth once it became within two points! And, most importantly, the bit that the uninitiated will never see (obviously) is when a lesser rated rider goes on a giant killing expedition such as Anders Rowe leading Sam Masters for 4 laps which kept people on the edge of their seat for the whole of heat 11 .. a huge ovation for his effort adding to the atmosphere but likely to go over the heads of a newbie. Similar for Ben Cook seeing off Sam (on a tactical) and Scott for three and a half laps before his engine gave way in heat nine. High drama. The final result (for the bonus point) went to a last heat decider so despite a pretty dominant Pirates’ performance which might otherwise have been regarded ‘one-sided’ there was much to entertain and, even though my team lost out in the last one, I, for one, was entertained. ”yes”, I’d love to see some wheel to wheel action but my heart rate never dropped much throughout!….. it’s a little bit like that brilliant TV series you tell your friends to watch…. Until they get comfortable with the various characters, they probably don’t get what you see in it …..at first? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technik 491 Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, brianbuck said: This topic seems to have moved away from "we like (or don't like!) Poole, but I've been reading through it with interest. My opinion is that although there is a certain amount of envy over Poole's lengthy success, one of the reasons why the club is unpopular is the way that some of their supporters (not all of them of course, but a vocal minority) instantly over-react to any form of criticism whether it be about their track, their management or their team manager etc. In many ways, Poole are a great example to other clubs, and I certainly don't begrudge them their success which is obviously good for Poole fans, although I feel it isn't good for the sport overall, to have one team dominating all the competitions year after year. Perhaps if some of the more touchy Poole fans would let the criticism ride over them, and not feel that they must reply to it, things would settle a bit? I agree, Poole's success over many seasons & either league is largely down to Mr Ford & his ability to treat his riders like employees & not mates. I*f they are not returning the scores he would like & the team are suffering he's not slow in making a change & most of the time he makes a sound choice. Maybe if more clubs adopted a simular strategy they may find the success that Poole have had for so long Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Technik said: I agree, Poole's success over many seasons & either league is largely down to Mr Ford & his ability to treat his riders like employees & not mates. I*f they are not returning the scores he would like & the team are suffering he's not slow in making a change & most of the time he makes a sound choice. Maybe if more clubs adopted a simular strategy they may find the success that Poole have had for so long Unless your name is Brady Kurtz and then you get numerous chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted August 10, 2023 57 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Unless your name is Brady Kurtz and then you get numerous chances. ...and look how well he's doing now!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted August 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: ...and look how well he's doing now!!! Tbf I don't really know. Don't really look into BV much. I just remember the 2-4 points he used to get as a no1 and still was in H13, used to wind me right up haha. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted August 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf I don't really know. Don't really look into BV much. I just remember the 2-4 points he used to get as a no1 and still was in H13, used to wind me right up haha. Might have to next year .if we end up with one league !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf I don't really know. Don't really look into BV much. I just remember the 2-4 points he used to get as a no1 and still was in H13, used to wind me right up haha. He's BV number 1 and Captain with an 8+ average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,022 Posted August 11, 2023 12 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf I don't really know. Don't really look into BV much. I just remember the 2-4 points he used to get as a no1 and still was in H13, used to wind me right up haha. Scored between 2 & 4, 4 times in his whole career... unless you mean away from home or are getting him mixed up with Todd Kurtz? Brady Kurtz at Poole No. Points Total Thu Apr 11th 2019 Poole v King's Lynn (PSh) 5 3, 3, 1', T, 0 7 +1 Fri Apr 19th 2019 Poole v Swindon (PSCS) 5 0, 1', 3, X, 1 5 +1 Thu May 2nd 2019 Poole v Belle Vue (PRa) 5 3, 3, 2, 3, 3 14 Mon Jun 17th 2019 Poole v Wolverhampton (PRa) 5 1, 3, 2', 2, 2' 10 +2 Thu Jun 27th 2019 Poole v Belle Vue (PRb) 5 3, 1, 2 6 Thu Aug 1st 2019 Poole v Peterborough (PRb) 5 3, 3, 1, 3 10 Mon Aug 19th 2019 Poole v Swindon (PRb) 5 2, 2', 2, 2, 1 9 +1 Thu Sep 5th 2019 Poole v Wolverhampton (PRb) 1 2, 3, 2', 1', 0 8 +2 Thu Sep 12th 2019 Poole v King's Lynn (PRb) 1 2, 3, 3, 1 9 Mon Sep 16th 2019 Poole v Ipswich (PRb) 1 0, 2, 0, 3 5 Thu Sep 26th 2019 Poole v Ipswich (PRPO) 1 3, 3, 0, 3, 3 12 Wed Apr 11th 2018 Poole v Belle Vue (PRa) 1 3, 3, 3, 3, 3 15 Wed Apr 18th 2018 Poole v Swindon (PRa) 1 1, 2', 0, 0 3 +1 Wed May 16th 2018 Poole v Rye House (PRa) 1 0, 2, 3, 2, 0 7 Wed May 23rd 2018 Poole v Wolverhampton (PRa) 1 1', 2, 2'^, 1, 2, 3 11 +2 Wed Jun 13th 2018 Poole v King's Lynn (PRa) 1 2', 2, 3, X 7 +1 Wed Jun 27th 2018 Poole v Somerset (PRKO) 1 3, 2, 2', 3, 2 12 +1 Wed Jul 4th 2018 Poole v Belle Vue (PRb) 1 1, 1', 3, 3, 2 10 +1 Wed Jul 25th 2018 Poole v Leicester (PRa) 1 3, 2, 3, 2', 2' 12 +2 Wed Aug 1st 2018 Poole v King's Lynn (PRb) 1 3, 3, 3, 3 12 Thu Aug 9th 2018 Poole v Leicester (PRb) 1 2, 3, 3 8 Mon Aug 13th 2018 Poole v Somerset (PRa) 1 X, 2', 0, 0 2 +1 Wed Aug 22nd 2018 Poole v Swindon (PRb) 1 0, 3, 3, 3, 3 12 Mon Aug 27th 2018 Poole v Somerset (PRb) 1 2, 2, 1, 0 5 Wed Sep 5th 2018 Poole v Wolverhampton (PRb) 1 1, R, 3, 1' 5 +1 Mon Oct 1st 2018 Poole v Somerset (PRPO) 5 X 0 Wed Mar 29th 2017 Poole v Wolverhampton (ES) 3 2', 3, 1, 2, 0 8 +1 Wed Apr 5th 2017 Poole v Belle Vue (PRKO) 4 2, 3, 2, 3, 3 13 Fri Apr 14th 2017 Poole v Somerset (PRa) 4 3, 3, 3, 3, 0 12 Wed Apr 19th 2017 Poole v Coventry (Ch) 4 3, 3, 3, 3, 1 13 Mon May 1st 2017 Poole v Swindon (PRa) 4 1, 2, 2, 3, 0 8 Wed May 10th 2017 Poole v Rye House (PRa) 4 2, 3, 3, 1, 3 12 Wed Jun 7th 2017 Poole v Wolverhampton (PRa) 4 3, 3, 3, 3, 3 15 Wed Jun 21st 2017 Poole v Leicester (PRa) 4 1, 3, 3, 3, 0 10 Mon Jun 26th 2017 Poole v Belle Vue (PRa) 1 1', 1', 3, 3, 2 10 +2 Thu Aug 10th 2017 Poole v Rye House (PRb) 1 1, 2, 1, 0, 1 5 Wed Aug 16th 2017 Poole v Wolverhampton (PRb) 1 3, 3, 2, 2, 0 10 Mon Aug 21st 2017 Poole v Leicester (PRb) 1 3, 3, 1', 2', 3 12 +2 Mon Aug 28th 2017 Poole v Belle Vue (PRb) 1 2', 3, 1, 0, 2' 8 +2 Wed Aug 30th 2017 Poole v King's Lynn (PRb) 1 2, 3, 2, 3, 3 13 Mon Sep 11th 2017 Poole v Swindon (PRPO) 1 3, 3, 2, 0, 2' 10 +1 Wed Mar 16th 2016 Poole v Coventry (ES) 2 0, 1, 3, 2' 6 +1 Fri Mar 25th 2016 Poole v Swindon (ELa) 2 1, 2', 2', 0 5 +2 Wed Apr 6th 2016 Poole v Lakeside (ELa) 2 3, 2, 2, 2', 1 10 +1 Wed Apr 20th 2016 Poole v Coventry (ELa) 2 0, 2', 3, 3, 0 8 +1 Wed May 4th 2016 Poole v Wolverhampton (ELa) 6 0, 3, 1, 3, 0, 3, 2' 12 +1 Mon May 23rd 2016 Poole v Belle Vue (ELa) 6 3, X, 0, 2 5 Wed Jun 1st 2016 Poole v Swindon (ELb) 6 3, 0, 1', 3 7 +1 Wed Jul 13th 2016 Poole v Lakeside (ELb) 4 2', 1', 2', 1 6 +3 Wed Jul 20th 2016 Poole v Coventry (ELb) 4 3, X, 3, 1 7 Wed Aug 3rd 2016 Poole v Wolverhampton (ELb) 4 3, 1', 0, 0 4 +1 Thu Aug 4th 2016 Poole v Leicester (ELa) 4 2', 1', 3, 0 6 +2 Wed Aug 10th 2016 Poole v King's Lynn (ELa) 4 1', 2', 3, 3, 2' 11 +3 Wed Aug 24th 2016 Poole v Leicester (ELb) 4 3, 3, 3, 1', 2 12 +1 Thu Sep 1st 2016 Poole v Belle Vue (ELb) 4 X, 0, 2 2 Wed Sep 7th 2016 Poole v King's Lynn (ELb) 4 3, 3, 1', 2', 3 12 +2 Wed Sep 21st 2016 Poole v Wolverhampton (ELPO) 2 2', 2, 2, 1 7 +1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
