Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, szkocjasid said: I don't get the negativity behind them, they have 7+ averages for a reason, they must be better than 6.00 riders for example. As Sedgmen was better away than at home, he'd be a clever signing for any Champ side imo Exactly! I don't know why Lewy gets so upset with the suggestion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewy 2,327 Posted November 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Exactly! I don't know why Lewy gets so upset with the suggestion. I'm not upset, I know it's not going to happen because those riders are going elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4BM 116 Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike0310 said: Has it been confirmed howarth has gone to Scunthorpe. 100% that Kyle won’t be back at Plymouth and from what I’ve heard neither will Gilles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torpointfanatic22 268 Posted November 27, 2023 14 hours ago, HGould said: Some harsh reality. Some teams fans will have to learn to accept some speedway is more important than winning speedway. The recent, mid and long term past is littered with clubs who have tried to buy success without the funds to bankroll it and failed. Good intentions no doubt, greedy riders possibly, not enough supporters prepared to turn up definitely. Supporters always blame owners and Promoters and expect winning teams. Normally and with only a few exceptions there is a correlation between supporter base and success or strict spending limits and realism. Poole have massive support in terms of people turning up. Glasgow have massive financial backing Scunthorpe have a great pragmatist who refuses to buy what he cqnt afford. Mark Phillips works incredibly hard, shoulders massive stress, spends more than he probably can. But. You can't make a silk purse of a sows ear. Fans have to be realistic. Speedway is it more important to have it or to win? Or maybe a few hundred more at many Clubs like Brummies and Plymouth could get off their backsides turn off the streaming and support the teams in the flesh... I'm guilty if not supporting as much as I used to but this Autumn has struck home... My club Brummies may not have a track after this season.. So support it whenever possible I will. If plymouth can't build a competitive team. More people need to turn up. Then they at least have a fighting chance. I don't think Plymouth fans think any different in the main. We finished bottom last season and have had a number of tough seasons at this level. The way the fans rally around Mark and the club to invest and keep the club running is nothing short of miraculous. It doesn't mean the fans can't have a view on which riders they want to see compared to means they don't. Your last line is the biggest catch 22 in the sport. You won't get more fans in (on a normal day) unless the product is worth the fee. Does that have to mean you win every week at all costs or that the racing is great, win, lose or draw? In my experience (look at Newport for example) you can go big on your team in the hope it brings more fans in, but rarely does that work, even if you have got a top side. I'd argue that would see the club close within 12 months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torpointfanatic22 268 Posted November 27, 2023 13 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I don't get the negativity behind them, they have 7+ averages for a reason, they must be better than 6.00 riders for example. As Sedgmen was better away than at home, he'd be a clever signing for any Champ side imo Because both are probably on the way down and aint getting any better. Sedgmen rode for Plymouth a few season ago and his attitude was diabolical. Clearly doesn't like the track or the club. I hope we don't go near either to be honest, want big money for mediocre on track performances. I'd rather take a 6 pointer on the way up every day of the week. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebaker 200 Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, torpointfanatic22 said: Because both are probably on the way down and aint getting any better. Sedgmen rode for Plymouth a few season ago and his attitude was diabolical. Clearly doesn't like the track or the club. I hope we don't go near either to be honest, want big money for mediocre on track performances. I'd rather take a 6 pointer on the way up every day of the week. Sedgmen rode for Redcar back in 2012. His attitude back then was lousy. Has guested for us. Would never don a Bears race jacket ever again. If I had a say in the matter. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted November 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, torpointfanatic22 said: Because both are probably on the way down and aint getting any better. Sedgmen rode for Plymouth a few season ago and his attitude was diabolical. Clearly doesn't like the track or the club. I hope we don't go near either to be honest, want big money for mediocre on track performances. I'd rather take a 6 pointer on the way up every day of the week. Tbf I'd take Batch at Poole. Not sure what his form around other tracks is like though! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragdoll64 647 Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf I'd take Batch at Poole. Not sure what his form around other tracks is like though! Form?………His attitude is far more concerning than his form……does my box in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalan 717 Posted November 27, 2023 7 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Tbf I'd take Batch at Poole. Not sure what his form around other tracks is like though! Absolutely not 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 27, 2023 Great to see all the track and stadium work going on at the Coliseum! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marky_Mark 55 Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) I hear what people are saying that we should just be grateful that speedway is still going ahead but desperately hoping that Plymouth have a winning team at home to bring the crowds back in. Not too many heat leaders left that haven’t been signed or linked with other teams, Ben Basso maybe? Edited November 27, 2023 by Marky_Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted November 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, Catalan said: Absolutely not Yes, think I am on my own with this one lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Marky_Mark said: I hear what people are saying that we should just be grateful that speedway is still going ahead but desperately hoping that Plymouth have a winning team at home to bring the crowds back in. Not too many heat leaders left that haven’t been signed or linked with other teams, Ben Basso maybe? Basso isn't doing Championship otherwise he'd still be at Glasgow!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marky_Mark 55 Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Skidder1 said: Basso isn't doing Championship otherwise he'd still be at Glasgow!! Not quite true from what I’ve heard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said: Not quite true from what I’ve heard. What? That he's not doing Championship or that he wouldn't be still at Glasgow? Edited November 27, 2023 by Skidder1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
