the hobbit 153 Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Not sure why B'ham can't announce the Team Manager before any 'rider' signings.... Really hoping that 'LR' has absolutely no say in team building so, just who do you think is carrying out the current rider negotiations, if it is not Rogers ? Apparently we have several riders already signed. . Hope they aren’t Rogers’ signings. We sacked him last year because he was incompetent and the fans and owners had had enough of him. he attended the AGM , has still got his hands on matters he should be no where near. If Rogers picks the team, and God forbid, is named as team manager then I will not be attending next season, after being a fan since the ‘70’s !!!! I agree, the first announcement should have been the new team manager snd, it should have been announced ages ago. For all the good this promotion have done, they still seem to be making the same rookie mistakes, the biggest being their dismal communication with the fans. I’ve read in the Brummies forum that apparently, Nigel has said the first two signings will be announced at the Xmas party on December the 8th. After NOTHING being announced on the club website for an eternity, keeping the fans in the dark, how stupid is it to keep the signings back so long snd keep all the fans in the dark? They should be banging out as much news snd social media stuff as possible , not treating the fans like mushrooms!!! We desperately need a damn good team this year to attract the fans back snd we never have had snd, never will have anything other than a CRAP team when Rogers has picked it. Sadly, unless the promotion announce otherwise, it seems we are in for more of the same. Nigel Tolley continually promised us teams capable of challenging for honours but it seems his view of a great team, is very naive!!! Time to get someone in that CAN and DOES know how to put together a good team. sadly, it seems we are in for more I the same naive management snd I fear, more hot air snd empty promises. Nigel needs to walk the walk snd that starts it’s much better communication, appointing a proper team manager, and minimising Roges’ involvement sadly, I think I am living in dream land , that I am in cuckoo land. I hope Nigel proves me wrong but, I doubt it Edited November 21, 2023 by the hobbit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Argos 262 Posted November 21, 2023 That is absolutely spot on sums up everything perfectly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiveusaB 1,145 Posted November 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, the hobbit said: so, just who do you think i is carrying out the current rider negotiations, if it id not Rogers ? Apparent we have several riders already signed. . Hope they aren’t Rigers signings. We sacked him last year bec he was incompetent and the fans and owners had had enough of him. he attended the AGM , still got his hands on matters he should be no where near. If Rogers picks the team, and God forbid, is named as team manager then I will not be attend next season, after being a fan since the ‘70’s !!!! I agree, the first announcement should have been the new team manager snd, it should have been announced ages ago. For all the good this promotion have done, they still seem to be making the same rookie mistakes, the biggest being their dismal communication with the fans. I’ve read in the Brummies forum that apparently, Nigel has said the first two signings will be announced at the Xmas party on December the 8th. After NOTHING being announced on the club website for an eternity, keeping the fans in the dark, how stupid is it to keep the signings back so long snd keep all the fans in the dark? They should be banging out as much news snd social media stuff as possible , not treating the fans like mushrooms!!! We desperately need a damn good team this year to attract the fans back snd we never have had snd, never will have anything other than a CRAP team when Rogers has picked it. Sadly, unless the promotion announce otherwise, it seems we are in for more of the same. Nigel Tolley continually promised us teams capable of challenging for honours but it seems his view of a great team, is very naive!!! Time to get someone in that CAN and DOES know how to put together a good team. sadly, it seems we are in for more I the same naive management snd I fear, more hot air snd empty promises. Nigel meds to walk the walk snd that starts its communication, appointing a proper team manager, and minimising Roges’ involvement sadly, I think I am living in dream land , am in cuckoo land. I hope Nigel proves me wrong but, I doubt it I can sense/feel your frustration and un-wavered loyalty and passion for the club.... I think Nigel made his best move for B'ham last season when (I hope) he realised that LR wasn't up to the job of TM and duly relieved him of team affairs.... So, with that in mind, I cant for one minute think that he'd allow LR to orchestrate things this season....obviously, 'we' will know that very soon, when signings are announced. But, as I previously posted....the Team Manager should be the first signing/announcement IMO, if 'we' are going to take things seriously! This is not a dig/criticism of LR....he does good things for the development/junior side of the sport. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,291 Posted November 21, 2023 500 to 600 fans a week are not suddenly going to grow to 1200 a week, which you would think is a minimum to compete in Div 1.. No1 riders certainly dont come cheap, even with TV money to subsidise it.. A huge challenge for the Birmingham leadership team, let's hope they can deliver a competitive and affordable team on their support levels.. It certainly wont be easy, so best of luck to them.. Will go when the Aces are there if not on TV.. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W9 Lion 222 Posted November 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: I can sense/feel your frustration and un-wavered loyalty and passion for the club.... I think Nigel made his best move for B'ham last season when (I hope) he realised that LR wasn't up to the job of TM and duly relieved him of team affairs.... So, with that in mind, I cant for one minute think that he'd allow LR to orchestrate things this season....obviously, 'we' will know that very soon, when signings are announced. But, as I previously posted....the Team Manager should be the first signing/announcement IMO, if 'we' are going to take things seriously! This is not a dig/criticism of LR....he does good things for the development/junior side of the sport. Surely Peter Adams is free on Monday nights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spidvej 18 Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, W9 Lion said: Surely Peter Adams is free on Monday nights? Peter has already gone on record as saying he won’t be managing any team in 2024 https://britishspeedway.co.uk/sports-insure-premiership/adams-going-nowhere/ Edited November 21, 2023 by Spidvej Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W9 Lion 222 Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Spidvej said: Peter has already gone on record as saying he won’t be managing any team in 2024 https://britishspeedway.co.uk/sports-insure-premiership/adams-going-nowhere/ Bugger, thats a shame. But thank you for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wee Eck 703 Posted November 21, 2023 Rosco has to be in the frame for TM I’d have thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewy 2,326 Posted November 21, 2023 Ermolenko will be team manager imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted November 21, 2023 Will be a big ask for Birmingham to attract former Wolves fans across to Perry Barr. That will decide whether Birmingham speedway will survive. Sadly speedway fans are a parochial and loyal bunch (including me) Never thought racing was as good as at New Cross after they closed down. Went along to support the opposition at Wimbledon for a while..... but couldn't ever support the "dirty dons" Wonder how many Cradley supporters still attend speedway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call me wolfie 677 Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Will be a big ask for Birmingham to attract former Wolves fans across to Perry Barr. That will decide whether Birmingham speedway will survive. Sadly speedway fans are a parochial and loyal bunch (including me) Never thought racing was as good as at New Cross after they closed down. Went along to support the opposition at Wimbledon for a while..... but couldn't ever support the "dirty dons" Wonder how many Cradley supporters still attend speedway? There was always a few at Wolves meetings. I may go to the odd meeting at PB but certainly won’t be a regular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Will be a big ask for Birmingham to attract former Wolves fans across to Perry Barr. That will decide whether Birmingham speedway will survive. Sadly speedway fans are a parochial and loyal bunch (including me) Never thought racing was as good as at New Cross after they closed down. Went along to support the opposition at Wimbledon for a while..... but couldn't ever support the "dirty dons" Wonder how many Cradley supporters still attend speedway? Crikey, how long ago did New Cross close? And did they go bust or were they forced out of there stadium? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,116 Posted November 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Crikey, how long ago did New Cross close? And did they go bust or were they forced out of there stadium? New Cross closed in 1963. Lack of support. They weren't forced out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowboy cookie returns? 747 Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, old bob at herne bay said: Will be a big ask for Birmingham to attract former Wolves fans across to Perry Barr. That will decide whether Birmingham speedway will survive. Sadly speedway fans are a parochial and loyal bunch (including me) Never thought racing was as good as at New Cross after they closed down. Went along to support the opposition at Wimbledon for a while..... but couldn't ever support the "dirty dons" Wonder how many Cradley supporters still attend speedway? But these days with all the doubling up & guesting is that really an issue? After all when on this forum someone criticises the sport the standard reply is look beyond the team aspect & just enjoy the racing. To keep the sport & the league going until Wolves can return just guest support Birmingham for a year 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,042 Posted November 21, 2023 I think Schlein would be a decent enough signing, he rode at number 5 virtually all season for Wolves, despite not being their 2nd best rider. Put him at 2, 3 or 4 and you can expect improved scores. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites