Diamonds85 699 Posted January 11 (edited) Kean DICKen confirmed... Perfect rider for the club... Really compliment eachother well Edited January 11 by Diamonds85 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,065 Posted January 11 He’s local and still young. He’s worth another chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4BM 116 Posted January 11 What would Parkinson-Blackburn come in on? Know he’s burnt a few bridges in the past but one of few riders at this level who will have had plenty laps around Owlerton where half the home meetings will be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted January 11 15 minutes ago, 4BM said: What would Parkinson-Blackburn come in on? Know he’s burnt a few bridges in the past but one of few riders at this level who will have had plenty laps around Owlerton where half the home meetings will be With respect if likely to be two meetings at Owlerton so hardly needing a track specialist. But im sure if someone provided bikes, kit, spares, a van and throw in a few quid JPB would show up and do a half arsed job. Perhaps Ben Hopwood, Scott Campos or Lewis Bridger could be tempted back too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScunnyDan 335 Posted January 11 35 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: With respect if likely to be two meetings at Owlerton so hardly needing a track specialist. But im sure if someone provided bikes, kit, spares, a van and throw in a few quid JPB would show up and do a half arsed job. Perhaps Ben Hopwood, Scott Campos or Lewis Bridger could be tempted back too. I’m sure in the speedway star a few week ago it said Sheffield were having 3 meetings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,487 Posted January 11 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: With respect if likely to be two meetings at Owlerton so hardly needing a track specialist. But im sure if someone provided bikes, kit, spares, a van and throw in a few quid JPB would show up and do a half arsed job. Perhaps Ben Hopwood, Scott Campos or Lewis Bridger could be tempted back too. No thanks to any of them don't see how they would add anything to the dynamic of a young team Edited January 11 by phillwhitewasmad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulbooth 14 Posted January 11 I vote for Owen but I am biased 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,028 Posted January 11 3 hours ago, 4BM said: What would Parkinson-Blackburn come in on? Know he’s burnt a few bridges in the past but one of few riders at this level who will have had plenty laps around Owlerton where half the home meetings will be Average too high (6.64) Scunfield have 4.61 left, but it sounds like it'll be another 3.00 rider from the press release announcing Dicken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMW 533 Posted January 15 On 12/6/2023 at 12:05 AM, Sir Sidney said: This is the case Wattleworth v Goodwood Road Racing Company Ltd & Ors | [2004] EWHC 140 (QB) | England and Wales High Court (Queen's Bench Division) | Judgment | Law | CaseMine Look at the duty of care issues. In simple terms, The MSA was held to have a duty of care to Mr Wattleworth, even though the event at which he lost his life was not an MSA event. Indeed MSA were found to have a duty of care for any motor activity on the circuit. Therefore, using that logic, the SCB concludes it has a duty of care for any NORA events on an SCB licenced track and could be exposed to a legal liability - however, they chose only to take issue with Iwade staging a NORA league meeting, not any other NORA events (including one shortly after where an SCB board member took part). If you accept the SCB interpretation of the case then any motorcycling event on an SCB licenced track creates a potential liability for them - and so whether that is motorcross, Dirt Track Events meetings, Flat Track meetings, track days, practice sessions, private hire etc not held under SCB then it should have applied the same sanctions to the promoters of those tracks as it applied to Kent. As it happens, I believe the SCB interpretation is incorrect, but if I was an affected party then I would get a legal opinion. As a postscript then it is worth noting a quote from Si Kellow in Speedway Star where he is quoted as saying ' Secondly, after being used as a tool to get at a club which isn't part of the SCB and BSPL anymore, I can't condone being part of a group which uses those practices'. (page 7 Speedway Star December 2 ) The SCB have already conceded they can’t actually stop Nora Events or SCB riders on SCB tracks what they can do is withdraw an SCB licence which is what they threatened to do to Kent. As they suspended the penalty ! To stop them holding any more !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Sidney 292 Posted January 16 10 hours ago, TMW said: The SCB have already conceded they can’t actually stop Nora Events or SCB riders on SCB tracks what they can do is withdraw an SCB licence which is what they threatened to do to Kent. As they suspended the penalty ! To stop them holding any more !! It's a bit more nuanced than that. It wasn't Kent that ran the NORA meeting, but Iwade ( who continued to run NORA meetings including one in which an SCB board member took part!) If the SCB were evenhanded they would also have threatened Kings Lynn ( who allow Dirst Track Events to run NORA Events on the track) and Scunthorpe ( who allow flat track Events not under SCB licence on the track). Using the case law they are relying on then SCB would be as liable to have a duty of care for those Events. But it is clear that the SCB was selective in the action they took. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMW 533 Posted January 17 On 1/16/2024 at 1:40 AM, Sir Sidney said: It's a bit more nuanced than that. It wasn't Kent that ran the NORA meeting, but Iwade ( who continued to run NORA meetings including one in which an SCB board member took part!) If the SCB were evenhanded they would also have threatened Kings Lynn ( who allow Dirst Track Events to run NORA Events on the track) and Scunthorpe ( who allow flat track Events not under SCB licence on the track). Using the case law they are relying on then SCB would be as liable to have a duty of care for those Events. But it is clear that the SCB was selective in the action they took. Agree. Because they can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Sidney 292 Posted January 17 2 hours ago, TMW said: Agree. Because they can Not sure that would stand up in law, but that's up to any aggrieved party to test. SCBs stand is clearly aimed at 2 individuals, as Si Kellow said in Speedway Star. Whether that is acceptable is up to individual's own views. Personally I'd like to see an agreed way forward, where all parties benefit - especially young riders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,487 Posted January 17 Why have we gone off thread and revived this debate on this section Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS50 359 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Why have we gone off thread and revived this debate on this section Good question. Slightly more relevant, any ideas who the last signing will be, and when do we get the fixtures list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,487 Posted January 17 4 hours ago, RS50 said: Good question. Slightly more relevant, any ideas who the last signing will be, and when do we get the fixtures list. no sorry no information on either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites