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I have no sympathy whatsoever for Richie Worrall. The man is very fond of using social media to have a go other riders, fans, tracks and other teams. Nothing wrong with been outspoken, but if you live by the sword you die by the sword.

Well Done to all at Redcar - what a superb event, without doubt the best organised fours in recent years! Even with the difficulties caused by scorching sun and a drying wind the track produced it's usual top class racing - full marks to the track staff who were fighting the dust all day (and mostly winning). Note to other promotions - fans are happy to watch tractors going round when they know it is only going to enhance their enjoyment, both from a racing and comfort aspect, which is exactly what happened on Sunday, everyone could see the time taken was making necessary improvements and accepted it! No doubt the Scottish fans were delighted to get home at a reasonable time this year, highlighting the benefits of having the event more central (for the Championship) If Redcar want the event next year they have my vote!

With respect, who cares what the f you say. You've been a member for 13 years and only just piped up recently...you aren't Subedei are you ? #c*t

My opinion sunshine .but then you dont like other peoples opinion

If speedway went in house that’s pretty much where it will stay, only current fans would get to see it and personally I wouldn’t purchase it, I can see a tiny financial benifit for speedway itself but no sponsor in their right mind would be interested as it has no audience, I do think BT is selling us a bit short with the money but that’s totally our own fault, BT deal in millions v speedway deal in peanuts, no wonder who the winner is there, we have the perfect platform and get decent viewing figures but we can’t get our own house in order, we need to turn the viewing figures into punters on the terraces and we will never do that with in house filming, we have to be out there in the big wide world

GOOD NEWSDanyon Hume suffered no broken bones in last night’s crash at Cradley. However he is battered and bruised (understandably), and will miss Sunday’s National Trophy trip to Buxton.Also wishing Cradley’s Chris Widman a speedy recovery who suffered a fractured wrist.

Is that a new saying Still, it could be worse, the panthers could be having a good season and picking up more silverware.............mmmmmm, hang on a moment.

As you would expect for such a fantastic stadium, the costs are significantly higher than most/all other stadiums in the country so I don't think it shows poor management to be losing money. What they need to do is to find ways of getting more people there and other revenue streams.

Crikey, that's a name from the past - remember him well, for all the wrong reasons!

Poor decision by Promotion to single out an individual IMO.Maybe an article saying they are Disapointed with comments would have been enough.Certain Promotions make remarks in their programmes regarding forums but they are entitled to,but it could be taken as as bit underhand but it's their way of telling you who is running the show lump it or leave it.Fair enough, if fans take offence they may stay at home,that's the chance they take.

I can't even begin to think how that would work.

And on what do you base your opinion? So far as I know you have not yet visited the NSS so it can't be from having attended every week. The promotion are trying many ideas to increase crowds, a new social media campaign is going to start soon and running the Colts with an entrance fee of £10 and kids under 18 free is seen as a way of attracting new and younger fans. The hope before FNR was to increase the 1500 average last year year towards 2000 this year but the enforced Monday nights have had the opposite effect. I would estimate our average crowds this year at more than 1000, maybe 1200 with the bank holiday meetings.

Not sure why there was need for any apology really. Does anybody take Jenga seriously.

But some critics have the nerve to make statements like that, when they were asked to pay to get in and they walked away to then be a permanent critic. Didn't you.

What does it cost . lets start on a meeting draw thats 45 points per team. Across the board you would say 100 per point so thats £4500.00, the there are tyres, matchday staff including doctor, ambulance services, paramedic, starting marshal's pit marshall, inspector referee and timekeeper turnstile operators.track staff, tractor driver, fuel, et al. Now if this is my business i have to pay myself and any others, marketing, stadium upkeep or lease, power, maintenance the list goes on. I have only a window of around 20 meetings at home and i still have to pay the riders for away meetings the figures prove difficult reading if you think that a few years ago i was getting 80-90k from tv revenue and now I get 14. Would riders go part time some may but if they get injured how will this affect the day job and could they expect their employer to give them the time off to travel from the North to say poole. I dont have the answers but I do know that big big changes to the sport are due and one I would like is a management committee that does not have its head so far in the sand and so disconnected with its revenue paying customers.

A very well reasoned reply to my thoughts on Richie and very much appreciated and a good insight from a behind the scenes point. Much more balanced than the call yourself a Glasgow Supporter pish, do this and say that etc etc. Cheers for the insight .

Comedy gold you can't even spell intellectual !!

Who are you to judge me or anybody, I am expressing an opinion on a rider that has massively underperformed for the team I have supported since the 70s, there are split opinions on Richie on here and in general I would imagine. But don't come on here albeit I am guessing you are connected in some way and preach to me or any other GLASGOW SUPPORTER on our thoughts on anything really. So yes I will call myself a Glasgow Supporter ARE YOU ?.

Best track prep arrangement was at Rye House probably about 2003/4 when Len Silver employed two small tractors, one with a small bowser on the back and the other one with a flat grader. After each heat, and whilst the riders were leaving the circuit on bend 1, the two tractors come out of bend 4 centre green and did a quick couple of circuits just before the next race riders were coming out onto the track. They took no extra time, but the condition and preparation was the same for all 15 heats. Only time I have ever seen such good preparation. Unfortunately it probably can't be done now, as the tractors were ready on the centre green area and also entered the track whilst riders were either leaving or entering the circuit. "Elf and Safety you know.

Time to get your hearing tested then. It was probably Redcar's second biggest gate ever after the fantastic crowd on their opening night. Well supported by mainly local Northern clubs,

Never spoken to Starman and it isn't on my to do list!!

So much of what generates a crowd these days is down to great marketing and hype.. I have mentioned before the differences between the PDC and the BDO in darts.. Two organisations in the same 'sport'... The result? One very, very successful, and the other woefully inadequate trying desperately to keep up, and failing miserably.. Speedway on any given meeting in the Premiership must pay out for 14 riders around £15,000 (or maybe even more?)... Not bad 'prize money' for a very small minority sport. Figures that, I suggest, would surprise many non Speedway followers if they were informed of it.... Therefore, how about a different spin on this £15,000..? Change the word 'wages' and replace it with 'Prize Money', with cheques being given post match to the team captains during an interview... 5 man teams.... A top League of 12 clubs, therefore 60 riders needed.. £15,000 up for grabs EVERY meeting... £10,000 to the winner, £5,000 to the loser... Home and Away twice would deliver 44 matches per team ex play offs.. Let's use a utopian vision and say every home team wins every match.... That would mean over 44 matches, each club would have 'won' £330,000 (£220,000 at home and £110,000 away) with each rider therefore averaging £1500 per meeting, meaning the average rider would earn £66,000 per year, ex play offs.. The reality will be of course some riders will earn more as their deals are better and some will earn less, as will the Clubs as there are bound to be away wins, however... After VAT, at £15 a pop, a 1500 crowd would deliver £18,000... Leaving £3,000 to pay the rent and operating costs (supplemented hopefully by Sponsorship, and profit if applicable on Car Park fees, bar take and programmes sales)... The standard for me would be teams made up at a level of Two current Premiership Heat Leaders. Two Championship Heat Leaders and a Championship Second String making up the fifth man.. Five man teams would also give a surplus of riders to cover short term and long term absences without the need for Gue.. Gu.. G (I can't even type it), and negate rider replacement... The overall 'Prize Fund' (ex play offs) from a total of 264 matches would be an incredible £3,960,000!! With the obvious proviso being of course, could you get 1500 to watch a sport that was now ran with credibilty, with similar standard teams, on nights when crowds could be best generated? I reckon you should be able to sell any Sport that offers a 'Prize Fund' of nearly £4M (not including play offs) to any prospective Sponsor or Media outlet as a very credible and popular Sport! And the beauty of course is clubs are paying this kind of money out every night now but without anyone knowing it, and gaining any publicity for themselves by doing it.. Could it work? Who knows, maybe they could get BT onside to show every team once at home and they match the 'Prize Fund' for that meeting meaning £30,000 on offer that night? British Speedway pays out literally MILLIONS of pounds to riders each season... SO. SHOUT ABOUT IT. LET THE BRITISH PUBLIC KNOW!!! And maybe, just maybe, they will start to get interested? (Or at worse, CURIOUS)...

not directed at you city rebel....just wanted to get in on a sky comment i remember when sky used to sponsor ./ pay clubs in premier league,...and the amount of slagging off they got on the speedway forums, like how they were doing it all wrong,...how they had dictated the league, meetings only on cos the cameras were there etc,..could be one of the reasons they pulled out,..so when B.T. pull their plug. is that mission accomplished from the dissatisfied ,who are looking for a scapegoat...not all riders can make a living as a rider...years ago (1970s)most had a day job esp if starting out as a rider, maybe needs to be like that again with a re structure...fixed race nights is just another nail ect

See all of our friends from the North on Thursday then

Another point I’d like to make in light of recent issues raised regarding riders being owed significant sums of money, and whether we could afford jack holder - while John and chris Louis have been in charge they may not have been the biggest payers but I’ve never heard of riders not being paid - correct me if I’m wrong on this down the years but I’ve not heard of it

That's certainly a possibility, especially if he has a connection already as Baldy has mentioned. Any play off push has to start now one would think ...

I dont like Worral much either hes a nugget who rides a bike....thats all.

That was the name of a greyhound in Ireland, a guy bought it to run at Shawfield but was told he would have to change it's name.

Linus riding far better than Grazonek. Nicholls certainly strengthens Belle Vue at Poole. A fixture. Rohan Tungate- R, 2, 0, 1=3 A fixture. 5. Scott Nicholls 3, 3, 2, 3, 2' = 13+1 Swings the balance to Belle Vue.

I think some people are confusing Rye House with Belle Vue on here. The 1500 crowd figure was posted in relation to Belle Vue. The 400 figure was posted in relation to Rye House.

If Steve Whitehead came on here and accepted the apology it's all over, up to now tho it's just apology made, two different things?

The stadium has been empty for most of the meetings this season. The longer the silence and uncertainty goes on, The less I look for any news.

What sports in Brit run at a profit? I reckon about 95% of ALL sports run at a loss and only exist due to rich owners or good sponsorship. Speedway needs to look at proper sponsorship deals (not piddly local , be they useful & no insult but..), and a good publicist.

Danyon Hume suffered no broken bones in last night’s crash at Cradley. However he is battered and bruised (understandably), and will miss Sunday’s National Trophy trip to Buxton.

Does the highest average have to ride at No1 then?

Hang on is this a Somerset thread or a Poole thread................................................ Just read the top of the page its a Somerset 2018 thread

I am one of the "older supporters that someone in an earlier post said that race night changes shouldn't bother. Well actually it does because trying to get round the M25 at rush hours is horrendous so we travel across country from East London, via Epping etc and that's almost as bad, solution go early afternoon and take a picnic. During this weather that's not so bad but most times who wants to sit in their car from 4pm after an hours journey basically in a car park in the middle of nowhere. Saturday the traffic can still be busy but nowhere near as bad as mid week.

Isn't it nice to see the children playing so nicely together !!!

strange sam masters was on a maxi in the reverse meeting last week and came last in heat 15 in that one as well ?

Call yourself a Glasgow Supporter? Well support the team! Just who's out there to replace Richie? Yes he's not done as well as in previous years but he's still an 8 point rider. It's a lot harder riding at 1 than 5. Just look at the scores from No1 when Richie wasn't riding at No1.! If changes are to be made he's not the one to be bombed out. Not that I'm advocating any rider changes.

Cannot compare football to speedway ffs Speedway is a mickey mouse sport run by chimps.

As usual a couple of those who claim to be "in the know" stated the stand on the back straight would be started in June. It is all obviously bull crap as on the planning details Stadia have not even got Planning Permission to knock down the existing stand yet.

From people who attended the meeting I've heard nothing but good things so well done to all at Redcar.

Yes. The only way I was able to stick with Horsens to the end was to half-watch it on the lap top and have Uraguay-Portugal on the main TV. I'm not a big football fan and even with an obviously-likely British winner in Denmark I really couldnt give it my full attention. No idea what KT/NP said this time - or this year years awaful interviewer - as the sound was down. It would be a difficult sell for BSI to make to advertisers if that is how people were to watch it.

It actually started with me defending Poole - won’t bother next time!

Perhaps I should first say that I am a huge fan of Workington Speedway. To me, though, its a question of how you respond and, in this case, I think it has been unnecessarily heavy handed. Surely a chat and a warning would have been more appropriate if the comments were considered to be unreasonable ? It is easy for me to say but you just cannot allow the pressure that you are under to affect how you treat your paying customers. You can't do everything for them and its a case of sorting the wheat from the chaff, but I don't think that the consequences of how you reply can be underestimated - be that for good or bad. I have stated the following example many times and apologise for doing so again, but it sums up my position in a nutshell and it is based upon personal experience. I went to one track, saw an awful meeting on a dreadful, ridiculously dusty track (the meeting itself was eventually abandoned) and took to this forum to state my opinion in no uncertain terms. As a paying customer I believe I am entitled to do that. A co-promoter at that track sought me out and gave me 15 minutes of aggressive abuse. I went to another, Isle of Wight. Same dusty track, same response from me. I then got a truly remarkable - for speedway - reply from their promoter, Barry Bishop. It was : 'We're sorry about the dust,. We are new and learning and we will try to make sure it doesn't happen again. We really hope you come back and see us again and, if you do, we'll take you on a pits tour and the centre green'. It perhaps says a lot that I couldn't believe my eyes. Same problem, same criticism, entirely different responses. One track I have not been back to since, the other has become a huge favourite for whom I bang the drum on every occasion.

I'd tell them where to stick it personally. If they only want happy clappers then it'll end in tears

After last year's injury hit season I didn't think there could be any black cats left in Scunthorpe for Rob to run over but looks like I was wrong

In the modern day when we're told speedway riders are more professional than at any time, why is it that the sport seems more amateurish with each decade that passes? This isn't a dig at the sport, I think it's more a reflection on the people who have arrived to run teams, most of them long-time fans, and have no blinking idea what they are doing. To them, it's better than setting up the spare PC in a back bedroom and playing a speedway promoter game on an old Spectrum. In the old days, the sport was run by distinguished-looking men in nice suits who were located in salubrious offices in London. Perhaps we should have seen the writing on the wall when an arm of the sport began being run above a corner shop and promoters were happy to wear red jackets and Wulf coats.