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I think the point Laura was trying to make is she had just sat round the AGM table where all clubs were agreed the importance of cost cutting, now it appears clubs are throwing money at the riders. No problem for me as there has always been the have and the have nots, and Workington proved to be the best out there last season so they have proved to others it can be done on limited budgets.

Who’s been offered inflated wages?! Who have Glasgow signed?! What counts as inflated? If it’s more than Workington are prepared to offer does that count as “inflated”? Glasgow made significant losses last year primarily due to investment in the club - track work, TV screen etc. All to enhance the spectators experience. What’s been said now is basically we’ve invested and have some top class facilities let’s fill the stadium for us all to benefit. It’s not rocket science really. Well maybe it is to some people

Those hoping the Aussies in their team also qualify for the reduction are just perpetuating the attitude of self interest and manipulation that has been one the main problems on the sport for too long

Is that the same solid businessmen who highlighted their losses the day the AGM started and asked for volunteers to help the club out during the new season :S Laura Morgan has always been honest and open about how difficult the last couple of seasons have been for her she has always said that she wont pay silly money to attract riders to her club but there is one thing for sure she has always had and will continue to have Workington Comets best interests at heart and that is probably why we are running this coming season, she most certainly does not have a chip on her shoulder !

If you're right, maybe those clubs need to pay more to encourage some riders to travel regularly to the geographical outposts of the Championship, especially Glasgow given the dearth of Scottish-based riders?

I predict this will be at least a 50 pager . Having just looked at some of the post's make it an 80 pager.

Got to love some of the Rumours, various sources ,heard from a reliable source my mate says, people in the know, even I can show you there wage slips lol what a load of bullsh1t unless a rider comes on here and tells you what they earn which I can’t see people should state facts not fairy tales not hear say it’s went from £100 to £200 a point to £1000 a meeting to £1200 now £2000 a meeting to the whole team on a guarantee lol lol by the time the season starts they will be all millionaire with secret offshore bank accounts and pretty sure if it was that pay scale every single rider would be queuing outside Allied head quarters the day after the season finishes begging for a team spot for the following year and before they agree to ride for any other team but not happened yet

Laura appears to have a chip on her shoulder, as do a few Workington fans on here. If you’re putting a team together on a budget that’s lower than previous years and lower than other clubs then you won’t get the same level or number of riders to choose from. Get on with it and stop whinging and moaning about other clubs!

Lets hope so - isnt that what we all want for every club? Of course regardless of anything else a club attracting more fans will be able to offer better terms than one only pulling in 3 or 400

Fear not , by page 10 on this thread it will be up to £400 a point and a 5k guarantee

This place is going into meltdown when we name our team.

Poole did not have a hissy fit. Where do you get all this crap from, storyland of make believe!! Poole said they couldn't do anything about KL using Ellis. KL realising what a laughing stock they were going to make the final, thought you know what how about we both keep the same guest for both legs. Pity they chose the wrong guest.

Can't go far wrong on a 4.96.

That is absolute rubbish, he was on £20,000 a meeting allowing him to get some decent machinery which resulted in him starting to become competitive in the Grand prix and just failing in a run-off in the GP qualifier

If you are going to attempt smugness at least do it with facts , it is the POSSIL Man City Tigers.

Did it? Amending the rule so an illegible rider could ride for a team.? What ever the reason. It was good in terms of non farcical. But it was bad because it was yet another thing to go against lynn. At the end of the day rr and a number 8 would have been the least farcical and most integral thing. No rules needed to be amended for that. It’s history but it’s still sour. As was the toft injury and exclusion. It was a great season and everything but I’m left feeling like an Irishman has tarmacked my driveway at a “good price”. I hope that common sense prevails in future and the rr option is taken/forced

Who said they have to be cheap? If they are within Somerset's budget, what's the problem??

Not sure but I read it on a post where the promoter said that the 2.5% only applies to British riders, which makes sense if they are trying to promote more home talent.

Correct but it was more the exception rather than the norm Parker and Stancl stayed with the Tigers for years and in Stancl case he was based in Newcastle and rode for several Northern based clubs. It was and to a certain extent still is difficult for Edinburgh & Glasgow to attract riders so far north and you could probably include Berwick in that as well. Whilst I acknowledge they are all probably working to different budgets which this has ultimately made attracting bigger names if you like up north.

Location has been a big issue at Glasgow for years, people don't want to travel so far North, it was only after the Facenna's took over and offered more money that riders then wanted to come. If we were to have a fixed pay rate and no extra money from sponsors etc then we would find it difficult to attract riders to the team

if a club wants to pay that's there choice but it has knock on effects for all involved in the sport like wise its up to that club which league they race in its not all about money sometimes location plays a big part in things and then theres competitive entertainment

That should get them going again

Not this again.... You do like a dig at Lynn. Poole booked Morris at home and Eliis away, so Lynn booked Eliis at Poole away would of had Morris at home... Poole went nuts as the complained , despite it being perfectly legal at the time. That's what started all this off.. Lynn did nothing wrong. Everything was within the rules at the time that Poole had the "hissy fit".

With harris going to somerset its now official he has had more clubs than tiger woods !

While I would be disappointed not to have Rasmus in the team next year we have to be realistic,. If you had a job and then another employer offered you a substantial amount more for doing the same job but at a different venue then surely its not unlikley that you would accept the other offer. Its a job at the end of the day that has to generate money in order to cover both his racing costsAND provide him with a living wage, like I said I would love him back but no one can really blame him for taking the bigger money.

I don’t hate you because of who you support or sign I despise your irrelevant posting it’s crap

I've never ever in my life heard a rider utter these very words before..........DISGRACEFUL !!!...........LOL

They will mean he loves himself and his family more then Workington

Rasmus will really upset a lot of Comets fans if he has succumbed to what are tantamount to BRIBES by a certain other club ! He stated publicly at the End of Season do that he LOVED WORKINGTON and wants to ride here in 2019 for us if at all possible. What will all those words actually mean if he doesnt ?

...best place for it!

Nothing wrong with the Poole team going away , if thats what the club wants to do so be it. No idea why Nick Morris has gone not even a Poole rider..................what about those riders that were actually Poole riders that contributed to the season a heck of a lot more than Morris..........Kildemand, Sundstrom, Shanes, Nielsen...........surely these guys should have gone and not Morris

Don't have a problem with Glasgow paying riders exactly what they want, just don't come out in the Speedway Star moaning you are losing money and things can't continue as they are.

Was he Chinese

Its all about Glasgow

Agree Glasgow seems to be in firing line here because they do pay more and with staggered signing on fees over season. If say Monarchs or Redcar got taken over by owners with a business turnover of an estimated 118 million they would be ones folk having a pop at. Thought 38 point limit would have brought some sense to sport but looks like a GP 2018 rider will still ride second tier which for Craig makes financial sense but could create an imbalance in their team. I am a great Cookie fan and will spit feathers if he signs for Tigers but at the end of the day he gave great service to Monarchs and money talks. Just stop giving us this tosh about how professional Glasgow are. Sometimes you get a warmer welcome in the small corner shops than you do at the 24 hour Tesco’s. At least we have a limit that every team has to adhere to whether you are a Prince or a Pauper .

not according to the man who was paying, Reading had already advanced him money for equipment and wrote that off, your man was topping up the points money and paying the air fares on the occasions he flew up from Heathrow.

I think you are right although if they really wanted to limit doubling more quickly then the new conversion would apply It does seem rather silly for example that Chris Harris will have a lower average in the Championship than the Premiership

Think someone said last night Josh Bates ave will be 5.88 due to missing year through injury.

Nothing wrong.. Thanks.. Stupid... it was a final, Lynn's first chance to the title, NKI got injured, I think it was the night before and it was within the rules. Poole would of done the same !! You will never convince me that Ford would do anything in a final to benefit the other team. Poole where 1 rider down. About a week later, in the cup Somerset where 4 riders down and used Wright at home in leg one, but couldn't use him in leg 2 at the AFA because he was just over, and it was just. Do you think it was fair to allow Poole to do it with 1 rider out and not Somerset with 4 ? How is that fair? I don't think I read one person moaning about the way Somerset beat Lynn over 2 legs in the cup either. I wonder why. I'm not saying it was anyone's fault other that the powers that be. A rule is should be the same for all. If you going play ground stuff, Poole pulled the 1st hissy fit after Lynn booked Ellis, which was legal . Anything after that was avoidable if that was allowed, as stated in the rulebook. And before you say that Morris average fitted at the time, and they hadn't amended the averages, that's not the case at all. They fit now, but not at the time. And i'm not bringing it all up again. I was just replying to Lynn supporter Daniel Smith's post That's about it. On to 2019. And Buster is coming for you

Makes you wonder why they bother with some of the losses these promoters are left with.

Josh Bates definitely(NL), Chris Harris probably(CL), Rory Schlein maybe(CL via patriality).

That Sponsor just happened to be one of the club's shareholders

Yeah, Schlein, Harris and Covatti will all be cheap and WELL within budget...…….lol

Nah. We are in a very fortunate position in that we have very successful businessmen running our club at the moment. If they decide to move on then I won’t be sitting bitching and moaning about other clubs that are enjoying that luxury and doing their best to promote the sport and spread positive news about the sport on a regular basis.

I think not, top riders are now looking at who pay on time and the best deal they can get.Possibly your top 4 leaving maybe that's telling you something

Following our announcement issued on Thursday 15th November after the promoters’ AGM from 12th - 14th November 2018, we would like to issue this latest update: "There have been some significant developments in the past week regarding the day-to-day management and operations of Arlington Stadium which have now reached an exciting and positive conclusion. “The future direction of Eastbourne Eagles Speedway Club has been intrinsically linked with these prolonged discussions; and we are delighted to report an equally exciting and positive conclusion. “Eastbourne Eagles will be pressing ahead with plans to accept an invite to join the British Speedway Championship League in the coming week, and to also announce a new promotional and management structure in the same timescale. “We have been especially active in on track matters and rider recruitment; with the aim of building a strong side with the potential to have League and Cup success; and will be in a position to name new team members; together with a new title sponsor; and other exciting sponsorship; media, marketing and supporter news and packages in the next week. “We anticipate making a further more detailed announcement to you all over the weekend of the 1st and 2nd of December when we hope to give you all a complete insight into the prospect of a truly exciting and positive new era and 2019 season, on and off the track; and a vision of a 3-5 year plan for Arlington Stadium and the Eastbourne Eagles."

I feel for Adam Ellis in all of this. All set to be part of Poole's Play-Off Final then gets scuppered by King's Lynn having a hissy fit. Could of had the luxury of a trip to Abu Dhabi at the F1, now nothing. He's who I feel for out of all this, kind of rubbing his nose in it when the whole situation wasn't his fault imo.

Pure lies!!

Might be another Ford on the promoters list!!!! Could be the start of a handover that would allow the “old man” to move off into new pastures whilst still keeping a “hand on the tiller”!!

With there now being a conversion rate for riders doubling up/down, have the BSPA released which of these averages will be used for riders riding in both leagues. For example Harris has a Premiership average of 7.78, and a Championship average of 7.71. If you convert the Premier league average it will be a lot higher than his current one in the Championship. For me if you wish to reduce the amount of doubling up/down, the higher of the two averages when converted should be used.