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Well done Redcar , hope you go on and win it now . As I feared , Greaves at reserve was the key to our downfall , though their three heat leaders looked very quick also . Plus side for us was how competative and determined young Connor Bailey looked last night , he's going to be a good un. We've still plenty to race for yet , this is just a wee setback .

Before thinking about away meetings, winning home matches is an absolute must for every speedway team in this country. 99% of fans don’t travel away to support their team so watching them win at home is all that matters to most. Winning away is an added bonus. For years teams have signed riders who are great at their home track but rubbish at most other tracks for that same reason. Josh Auty is one example of that nowadays. I can think of Simon Walker and Stephan Katt for Somerset in years gone by. Absolute world beaters at the OTA and knew every inch of the track but pretty useless away from home. Didn’t stop them becoming fan favourites though, purely because of their home exploits.

DELIGHTED for Emil ... you couldn't meet a nicer person.

The racing may have done, but Sir Shouty . . . . Is there no one else to do this job for British viewers? Please!

I've said repeatedly that we should have a dozen or so races, and THEN start the meeting! Once a track has settled, it is so different... Steve

Or maybe one where you need a bit more skill.

Ripping a track up mid season , after it has produced some good and entertaining racing this season , makes no sense whatsoever . Track is the same for both teams , but it was still an odd decision and a massive own goal .

Whilst it is good to be gracious in defeat, one should also not gloat (too much) in victory, certainly not to the extent of abuse - to mirror a previous comment it is good to see genuine Bears/Speedway fans enjoy the victory and be grateful!!!

Terry that does the track at Redcar gets the track there the same every week it’s never been that good he knows his stuff wish there were a few more like him around the country

Clubs have no money but you want them to subsidise a coach for the 20 or so away fans that they may be lucky to have follow them who would follow them anyway? How do you police the 'away' fans? Do they have to produce I.D.??? I travel 80 miles each week to my nearest track, am I an ' away ' fan ? Fans don't travel because it's too expensive to attend two meetings a week , with travel, entrance and food, it's only the hardcore that still follow their team. An example was my club last season when they gave an award to ONE fan who had attended every fixture , home and away.....ONE fan! says a lot really.

To say a team has choked is doing the opponent a disservice. The word choke is used by the numerous wum on here to start an argument or gloat.

Now you are being rude to five year olds!

Yes you go underestimating Poole, we all know how that generally works out for everybody

no he just being plain rude

Its called an opinion. If you ever manage to find one of your own you should share it.

Perhaps you should have said “ Technical Tracks”

He's probably read it on a bog wall. Anyway, he's not called Bellend for nothing.

I can assure you SUGARRAY would know if the issue was raised with track staff.... he would be the FIRST to know!

Redcar pushed Glasgow to a last heat decider last night, definitely won’t be a pushover

For the benefit of sensible fans no one is suggesting that over the 2 legs Redcar didn't deserve to win. What most Glasgow fans want to know is what happened to the track and why and why do it prior to a crucial match against a good team. Why not do it before a match with a diddy team like the monarchs. We had enjoyed good racing with the Tigers riders enjoying smooth lines inside and out and then we get ruts, slick, grippy and patchy in just one bend _ riders comments not mine So why o why

Best wishes and a speedy recovery after his op to NBJ

Most speedway promoters are in denial. They all think their product is perfect.

You might get a vote yourself, for your services to the club through the years

It's been not easy at times for the Bears fans since you came back in 2006 , but this season you have a team capable of winning silverware and out of the teams left in the cup , I don't see any of them beating the Bears over two legs

The views of a real sporting speedway fan. As most proper speedway fans are. Two teams ride, not just one. Believe me, following the Bears has seen a lot more lean times than most, but they are my team, through good and bad, it's nice to have a bit of the good times. UTB !!

Congratulations to the Bears , the better team over 2 legs, Nathan Greaves the match winner for you. We missed Rasmus on Tuesday for sure, however it may not have made much difference as we struggled on the track as it was totally different to the previous week, this due to major track work being done during the week to fix the bends, resulting in it breaking up a bit. I hope the Bears go on and win the cup , they deserve some success and they are going to push a few teams this season.

At least if one reads it all and understands it, they will be one step ahead of Nige and Kelv

You should maybe consider changing the ers after Bell in your username and replace it with end. But thanks for your mature reply.

Most congratulated the Bears don't know where you get that from. Money bags comment rears its head again , if being proactive in promoting the sport and doing there best to give the best facilities and team then i dont see what is wrong with that. Do you.

So why don't the home team ride it like they find it? The simple fact is little Redcar put it up money bags Glasgow tonight and a few people can't handle it! Ha ha. UTMFM! The track didn't seem to hamper Craig Cook tonight did it although he dipped out of heat 15 with the result on the night in the balance.

Another trophy down.

Taken it well I see. I’d respectfully suggest your point about the Bears moving to put the rider next to them off is wrong and the sour taste in your mouth is actually sour grapes. Nothing at all under hand about Andersen not riding tonight (he had a decent meeting in Denmark tonight though if you are interested)

Five man teams, (you only need two riders each per race).. Salary capped to £5k a match, regardless of number of rides, £1500 to No1 down to £500 for No5 at intervals of £250 a position... Meaning No3 (Mr Average) gets a grand a night.. Total cost for both home and away matches is £10k.. Try a 12 team league first up (expand as and when more riders are available), meaning 60 riders needed which would then also mean a good few 'subs on the bench' for replacements.. (No guests!) Home and away twice each team means 44 league matches, 22 home and 22 away,.. Charge £15 per adult, kids free (U18) and 1000 punters would give you £15k pay the £12k needed for riders for both meetings, and VAT, and leave £3k over towards your home meeting costs... Maybe run a 'pay to ride' second half to help offset some of these meeting costs and give budding riders track time, (plenty of motorsports do "pay to compete" days).. Team strength would need to be Championship No1/Premiership Second or Third Heat Leader level, down to NL No1/Championship reserve I would suggest.. 44 matches (ex play offs) equals £66k for No1 down to £22k for No5... Not a fortune but as a job for just six months of the year not too bad, and nothing stops you getting a job during the winter..

The classic design from 1937 to 1973 was simple and striking. Most of what came after was ill-advised and needlessly fussy. Are Wimbledon the only team whose colours were a foreign flag? (Vietnam). Was Ho Chi Minh a closet Dons fan? Is there a Ronnie Moore Boulevard or a Mark 'Buzz' Burrows street in Hanoi? I think we should be told.

Traditional race sheet Swedish 2019 GP:- https://www.keepandshare.com/doc16/23455/gp-2019-4a-pdf-844k?da=y

And risk some clever sod buying the lot and selling them to home fans for £12.00

Yes probably,lets just say the IQ is pretty low.

It's his default setting, blokes a fool with the IQ of 5 year old.

Skill is required on a level playing field where all is equal, then skill rises to the top. Not required so much on a ' technical ' track where home knowledge can replace skill.

Minimum bet per rider is £10 therefore 16 !!- 16 would be taking the mick however !!!!!

A Poole fan on a Poole v Kings Lynn thread!! I'm sorry, who are you exactly?

You have many valid points in your argument, I don't think anyone can be happy with a rider who only scores or seems bothered about scoring in home meetings then scores zero or next to zero everything he ventures past Haggerston castle. Thing is I don't see any changes on the horizon, by the looks of things the club just doesn't have the money for loan fees, wages etc. It must be said that Gappmaier isn't the only under performer in the team.

if Josh is Second heat leader around Scunny id love to know who the 1st heat leader is

I don’t know why Plymouth didn't use a tac sub. Wilson could’ve come into heat 9 or 12 and them extra points could've won them the meeting.

Super Swedeone of Peters superstar signings.

We have also crashed out Ko Cup,Millions in the Bank is not the problem for them, it’s the Pts limit. We are not looking like Play -off contenders though don’t think we will be +1 at end of season.

But where's the official thread?

A couple of years ago I would have argued against this idea, in the past the second tier was sacrificed for the top tier, promises of fair rider shares never happened. But right now it makes complete sense. Let's be honest, the Elite league was never Elite, and the Premiership is now so close to the Championship with so many rider overlaps, a merger makes complete sense if it is also a financially viable option for clubs. For the fans it would mean more variety, and hopefully riders would become 'one club' again, not riding for different British clubs at different times of the week. The idea of the reserves being British under 21 makes sense too. A couple of the top riders may decide to give the British League (perfect name) a miss, but sod them, we can't run a league just for a handful of riders. I would imagine young Aussies would still venture over to the UK and ride British league for the start of their careers, so as top riders are not coming back, a merger of the leagues makes complete sense now.

But the margin was 2 points. Are you suggesting poole downed tools and didnt want 4 points, instead 3?

It says an awful lot about the Isle of Wight promotion that they have landed this meeting and not one of the bigger clubs. What is more remarkable is that they were approached by Polish Speedway, not the other way around.