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What a wonderful evenings entertainment , different gravy to the drivel we had to sit through 24 hours later in Cardiff . Almost every heat had superb racing , culminating in a pulsating final , though I did fear Rasser had blown it , but he fought back to pip Nicholls on the line , sparking wild celebrations among the substantial Glaswegian travelling support . We even had Cookie and Rasser travel with us to Cardiff , on our bus , after the meeting . Poor Rasser was a sorry looking sight at 7 o clock the following morning haha . Best Pairs meeting , not just because we won , for many a year . And who cares if you need to queue for a slash when you get a track and racing like that .

Not sure. But I've heard there is a special edition of the book on sale in the Cradley area that includes a set of crayons. This will let the Spoons fans colour the pictures of the tattoo's in.

Well done to Charles Wright, didn’t let anybody down with that performance.

Excellent. What could be better then Mums and Dads taking kids to the GP, or even kids mythering mums and dads to take them. Isn’t that what speedway needs, more youngsters. Well the opportunity is on a plate. The speedway nation should be embracing it, not whinging about it. I’m convinced a lot of this forums members are happy to be moaners.

Eastbourne booking Craig Cook as a guest for Lawson apparently

Not again Gavan?! Yeah we get it. 'If Poole lose they will have choked'! How many times have you repeated this. Please give it a rest and come up with something new.

Lawson will ride for Ipswich on Saturday. Confirmed.

you couldn't have been watching much when Topinka was captain

IF you prefer to believe that then fine. But you are way off. Tai will get a wild card because he is a three-times WC not because he rides under the Monster banner.

A little early for the BSPA conference?

Cost reductions yes but is there any sustainability of rider production in a model like that? If the MDL is to remain in it current format you would lose the vast majority of sub 6 point riders from the sport along with anyone competing now as the current target is NL 2.00 position not championship reserve at 6.00 level. How would anyone be able to get near that level or be measured without sensible levels of competition and track time. I feel if there is no NL next season there will be no point having an MDL either any many will just walk away from the sport. Propping up the top leagues by sacrificing the grassroots of any sport just doesn't work.

Cardiff brought me back to speedway after a near 10 year break. I just happened one night to be flicking through the channels and noticed speedway was on, not the speedway I remembered from the early 90s but speedway on steroids in a big stadia and on the telly...it ignited my interest enough for me to then visit Poole speedway (twice) whilst away on holiday that year, a couple of meetings when I returned home and return to speedway properly the following season at my local track and of course, my first attendance at Cardiff. Yes, I had already been a speedway fan but I had had a complete break away from the sport, I hadn't been watching it on the television or keeping up with any news etc for the previous 9 nears before I happened upon that coverage (although it was hard to miss our triple in 98 as it was plastered all over our local papers). I haven't been to Cardiff since 2015, life, uni pick ups and holidays have got in the way but I am trying everything I can to get there next year as part of my special birthday celebrations. It takes a little more organisation now because I have the wheelchair but I can be a stubborn mare when I want to be and I am absolutely determined I will make it there for 2020.

Delighted to see the Colts are riding their play off semi final on Saturday 28th September. My first Saturday League match at Belle Vue since 1987 !!! Hopefully we will get the biggest Colts attendance this season... It would be great to have Saturday as the Colts regular home dates next year.. obviously ensuring no clashes with the SGP s.

British league speedway can seem crap on television, certainly. Empty stands or grass banks and dingy old floodlights not bright enough to illuminate a kitchen. Riders in kevlars that are a different colour to the rest of their team (sounds little, but it can be very confusing to kids and newbies) looks tinpot. This is all offset when you have good racing, but when it's a gater's track you're watching a procession and it adds to the overall malaise. SGP in Cardiff can get away with processional 'racing' due to the scale of the event and the names on show. Late season on an overcast evening in Peterborough doesn't have quite the same attraction.

From the Bears website:- It has also been confirmed that dates have now been set for the KO Cup Final against Newcastle and for the Teesside Silver Helmet. Redcar will stage the 1st leg of the cup final at home on Friday 11th October, with the 2nd leg taking place in Newcastle on Sunday 13th October. Duffill explained, “The Play Off’s must be completed before the KO Cup final, so we race this week against Leicester and then Friday 4th October is reserved for the Play Off final, should we make it. Ideally, I would have liked the 2nd leg of the KO Cup to have been at home, but that wasn’t fair on Newcastle, who are already having to wait 2 weeks for us to finish our Play Off fixtures and originally wanted to race this week. A compromise had to be made somewhere.”

It's not just Cardiff. Speedway generally comes across as crap on TV. Last weeks meeting at Poole being a prime example. You can never recreate the atmosphere of being in a Stadium, sitting on the sofa!

Torun, Wroclaw and Warsaw have given the best racing. Prague regularly gets rolled out by fans as one of the better cities to visit.

I have never really understood the gripe with any management making money out of a speedway club ? surely if your club makes money year after year is a good thing ? I would be delighted to hear the Masons make a healthy profit at Birmingham as would give me assurances of our longer term future. Do speedway fans want owners to take risks but not take any rewards ? if so why would anyone bother ?

I parked on the street for free a little further on from the Cardiff City FC stadium (where I usually park, but couldn't this year due to them playing at home). A 20 minute walk instead of the usual 15

Cost reductions by diluting the product on offer just doesnt work how many years have the BSPA been doing that for ?. There has to be realistic cost reductions beginning with machinery, tuning etc etc, a small step could be a bog standard Bike with NO tweaks to it, but thats where everything falls down with most riders trying there best to get even the smallest extra bit of power from there machinery.. and so it goes on, fewer and fewer spectators being asked to pay more for an inferior product, on Tracks that were built for less speed than what is acheved nowadays, whats the issue with being 5 seconds slower but with better racing ?, oh i get it, every rider wants to be a GP star . Then there is the issue of newish sign written vans, I understand the days of having a bike on a rack at the back of the car have long since gone, but jeez surely the object is to get from A to B with whatever mode of transport is available how much does a half decent trailer cost ?.

Bet you wouldn't think that if you were an Eastbourne fan

I’d have thought it would be common sense to let Lawson ride for Ipswich and grant Eastbourne a facility?

The rule is quite clear and doesn't include any qualification regarding the cut-off date. However, as we know all rules in Speedway are subject to the caveat that Management Committee can make a decision 'in the best interests of the sport', and it may be that ensuring the most attractive line-up for the sport's media partner comes firmly under that heading.

I’ll be honest mate I’m struggling to remember the last decent Cardiff meeting. I didn’t miss one from 2001-2014 and the social side was always the highlight of the weekend. Certainly wouldn’t want it removed from the calendar but as a general point sone of the poor tracks do as we’ve had too many boring rounds and not enough exciting ones.

So there goes your get out clause. That just makes you a hate filled xenophobe then.

Its only right that Lawson rides for Eastbourne as the rearranged meeting at Ipswich is on a SGBP 'off-night'! The rules are quite clear......!

Absolute borefest again and the reason why i dont part with my hard earned cash. Irrelevant to me is the buzz beforehand i want to be entertained by what goes on on the track and Cardiff this year same as most years is boring racing. Anyone who went wide looking for grip just went backwards.....riders just stuck to the white line and the riders behind couldnt pass. The only real overtaking was going down the back straight of lap one going into bend 3 with riders having the drive off of bend two to either hold the outside or shoot up the inner Emil got over Madsen but rode wide and Madsen kept it low and got back Lambert was so much slower then Madsen but as long as he rode tight Madsen was never going to pass him I think the razzamatazz of the occasion clouds peoples judgements.... was possibly the worst gp of the season

Spot on.. Sponsors put big money in to be associated with the best and are obviously happy that they are dealing with a clearly well respected brand.. This standard then delivers great TV coverage and means Polish Speedway can actually auction their meetings to the media, rather than take any meagre pickings thats offered by a single interested party.. That great blanket TV and audio coverage then helps engage a new generation of fans, as well as delivering great coverage for the sponsors to the right demographic they wish to engage with.. It also makes means big money to the riders, which makes being s speedway rider in Poland a truly aspirational career which can bring huge rewards, therefore training schools are full and a conveyer belt of talent is pretty much assured.. This money coming in then means realistic admission costs which encourage families in particular to attend as it remains firmly within their budgets, meaning younger fans start to take notice of the sport to hopefully maintain a strong future for it.. As you say, doing very nicely at the moment... I am sure though being very forward looking, they will still be contemplating how they can improve their current operation further.. Winners never stand still, because they know that if they do they will effectively fall behind competitors who are moving forwards.. Maybe to improve things going forward, they will think of dropping the weekends and run on those 'traditional' family leisure nights of Monday and Thursday's? And maybe consider inserting a rule that lets every rider ride for every club in the league on an ad hoc basis whenever there is a gap in any team? Two ideas both sponsors and TV executives would love to see brought in I am sure.. Or maybe they wouldn't...

Average wise perhaps but in every other way no....

People aren't suggesting replacing Cardiff with Belle Vue, that would be ridiculous, why can't they both be used. Those interested more in the racing will go to Belle Vue along with more from the north probably, those who like the weekend away and the event would still go to Cardiff.

Like many I thought the racing was v poor and the meeting instantly forgettable. It’s not a cheap day so the organisers really need to sort this out (last year at Cardiff was just as crap). There is nothing wrong with the riders, look what happened in the Polish GP when you give the boys a decent track. I said after last year I’d give it one more year but not again for me unless assurances are made to sort the track out. Also this is a big event and the overall pre event entertainment is poor IMO, the organisers have got complacent. The highlight of the day was Charles Wright ! Well done Charles

Some very interesting points on here. I appreciate (as the guy said earlier) that age isn't relevant when it comes to speedway and an opinion, but having followed the sport for 45 years then I do believe that I can give a decent opinion of the merits of Cardiff, even though it does have it's down points. Speedway in the UK is pretty much on its knees. Many of us can remember the halcyon days of the 70's and 80's in the UK... when the British League was the global 'jewel in the crown' of speedway... the place to ride to be competitive... and a time which we probably all took for granted and never expected things to change. Back then... everyone in speedway pretty much EXPECTED that it would be a 'given' that we had a great venue here to house the 'World Final.' We took that as a given right. And there was also an expectancy that the British speedway public will fill the place easily. We had the old Empire Stadium at Wembley. We then had Odsal... then... we didn't. The 'masses' went to watch speedway weekly. My father used to go to watch Odsal in the late 1940's... he had some old programmes from meetings... in the 'pre tv' era. Weekly there was 30,000 people watching meetings back then! The sport was huge. Fast forward to the state of affairs with our beloved sport today... and it really IS on its knees. I am struggling to work out how clubs actually stay afloat. And how small amount of clubs there is. It is bare bones speedway. I have followed Halifax, Bradford.... both now closed. If you have track to support now... it's isn't a 'right' or a 'given,' then it is TRULY a gift from the Gods! Sheffield is where is go to watch now... almost 40 miles each way from my house! Bradford used to be 8 miles away... and my all time beloved club, Halifax... 16 miles! Now... 35 plus!!! THIS is how bad things are. Now if you had shown me today's state of affairs in the 80's, with a crystal ball. Or fetched me forward in a time machine... and showed me the absolute state of affairs in the domestic leagues.... THEN... this weekend... had taken me to Cardiff, and showed me that we actually have a stadium in the UK.. where FORTY thousand people will travel to, to watch not a 'one off final,' but Grand Prix meeting (not as special IMHO), at a venue with a roof on it so that you KNOW it's not gonna be rained off... then I wouldn't actually believe that the whole Cardiff experience was a "thing." I would marvel about it! I wouldn't actually be able to get my head around that this STILL existed. Cardiff still being with us... in a country where speedway is becoming almost defunct... is pretty much the biggest oasis imaginable... and in the world's largest desert. I know that it has it's faults. Processional racing (not hardly a rarity in speedway... if we are being honest)... but yeah... yesterday's meeting was pretty much a gate fest. Hotel prices aren't cheap in the city (that is Capitalism rearing it's head.... why sell a room for £50 when you can sell it for 5 x that amount). Geography also for some isn't so great.... agreed. But for sure... if you look at the actual state of speedway right now here.. it is on it's knees. So the speedway GP at Cardiff... whatever it's faults... IS a miracle and a Godsend. We need to get our nostalgic heads out of our boots and appreciate it is as a thing / concept. I agree that walk up ticket prices on the day of £50 is a disgrace. Why price late comers out when they could sell them at £20 and recoup money and get more people in the stadium? False and stupid econony! But in general... you can make the Cardiff experience reasonably inexpensive if you are up for it, with a little effort. I treated my sister to her tickets this year. 2 tickets were say £42 plus booking fees. Which were reasonable. A pound here or there. It can cost a couple of hundred quid to see some bands at an Arena these days. So £42 for tickets, I booked parking via a website at an Ibis only 15 mins walk from the stadium. That was only £8. So £50. Programme.... £10. We share it. £60. So £60 for the basics for two adults for the actual meeting / parking / programme. The rest are expenses. We drive from Leeds. My motor guzzles a little... so used £76 worth of diesel for the round trip of 500 miles. Yes... that is a long drive to do on the day... but the buzz of having a day out pretty much carries me along. We set off early and stop off on the way (using the Starbucks near Ross on Wye.. which was drive through only this year). So fuel (rather than hotel), tickets, parking, for two people: £136 or £68 each. How much would it cost to go to a gig or see a football match? All of this to watch a largely attended event of a sport we love in the middle of a struggling era in our sport. I personally think that we are LUCKY to have Cardiff. VERY lucky. Yeah... the racing may have been shocking this year. And I appreciate that people would rather see a track like the NSS at Belle Vue house such an event. I get it... I truly do. But it just isn't happening. Even with bolt on stands... once we remove the whole Cardiff experience... we could lose it forever. And tragically... life isn't about mixing and matching. We can't have a track like the NSS in a place like Cardiff. It's indoor on a pitch. And that's not criticism to those sentiments above.. I long for better racing.. desperately! I truly do. But life is all about 'what if's,' and sadly, that is all they are. Even if we could make the NSS at 20k seater stadium... how would that help? People go to Cardiff annually... families. We are trying to promote the sport. Kids go there. Imagine the disappointment for kids if we take a 40k event and slash it by two into a 20 / 15k event (my figures are just examples and not real). People would be let down and miss out hugely. And again... all of this planning for a meeting at a city which is hardly famed for it's sunshine? Speedway is pretty much fortunate to have the NSS. But it was never gonna be a big stadium. Tracks get no support. So yeah... it is a great racing track... but really... just the fact that the NSS even exists is pretty much a miracle! We are NOW a minority sport. Sadly. Rose tinted spectacles off time. It would be absolute domestic speedway suicide to dump off Cardiff and move it to absolutely ANYwhere. It really would. I would love the thought of a 'second GP' here some place... a "European GP." Or whatever, at another venue. I would be up for that concept. 100 percent. But the British GP at Cardiff really is something that we are ridiculously LUCKY to have. The sport here is critical / not stable.. and is on 'life support' right now. And yeah... bongo cams and presenters may be a bit tacky / trash (I am not having a dig at any poster here above... I totally agree :D) but for all of the little things that annoy... we rock up there once a year knowing that our money isn't wasted on a rain off, and knowing that we will probably be served up 'follow my leader processional racing' : pretty much how speedway is in general, if we are to be honest with ourselves.... and if we remove the romantic ideal that we often have of it. It has it's massive faults... but really, it's pretty much a great thing.

Both good points that I had overlooked.

Regarding the situation with Lawson, the sensible thing to do would be to move the Eastbourne v Birmingham meeting to the following Saturday. This is the last meeting of the year for Eastbourne and it’s traditional that the riders that have served and performed over the year are present. Last years finale against Mildenhall was cancelled altogether and we are still awaiting the outcome of the SCBs ‘full investigation’. We don’t need another disappointment this year.

on Bt 3

To even things out and to let each meeting have one of those riders I think Peterborough should use Charles Wright and Newcastle Ulrich Ostergaard

yes, sheffield got through as they had two 7,2s to our zero

Likening Tai to a lavatory is a bit harsh!

I'm hoping Lawson rides for Eastbourne, and in the best interest of the sport we get a high scoring guest,, cos everyone knows for the best interest of the sport it would be better if Ipswich knock out Poole

The trouble is everyone wants to be a winner! The Premier is geared for tv and all other clubs suffer. Likelihood of a NL next season is difficult to see with so few teams unless a revamp of the league system is undertaken. Its time to look at the pro and semi pro argument of 2 leagues imo.

Adonis is talking bullocks, but then, looking at his avatar of Yaxley_Lennon, what can you expect ?! Its a good read, and definitely not full of "I am better than everyone else" ! My advice would be buy it, see what you think, you can always sell it on Ebay, Gumtrre, etc....

During those two years at Lynn, sitting up there in the royal box I obviously saw a lot more of his involvement than most on here did. Schlein was inspirational to everything the Stars team did. He watched EVERY race. he was the one standing at the pit giving encouragement, he was the one waiting to greet the riders back after each race, he was the one always talking to our riders before and after each race, he was the one telling them about the setup and the track conditions as they changed. He was the one who led by example.. If there were mechanical issues it was Rory who organised the remedy work, or even arranged a replacement. Pats on the back, or high fives when they return, Rory was instrumental to the whole of the Lynn team.. I have never said Rory was our best rider, but he brought far more to the table than just his riding... During this time, I travelled away to places like Coventry, Wolves, Swindon, Rye House and Leicester, and it was just the same. He was always standing at the pit gate, watching every race. when our riders came back , their success was greeted with acknowledgement and thanks. Rory sure was that little bit special. We didn't always win, but it wasn't for the lack of commitment... All this came to an end when he and Buster had an explosive exchange over the track conditions. Rory's concern was the safety for the riders . Unfortunate Buster had different ideas... In all my time supporting the Stars I have seen plenty of good team men, but when it came down to total involvement, no-body comes close to what Rory gave... Yes I agree with what you say about Michael Lee, But he always had fast bikes and guaranteed double figures every week. I don't doubt Roberts ability, but sometimes his machinery appears quite mundane (gutless), No doubt his best bikes are where the money is.. (Cant blame him for that either) but nothing would please me and all his fans more, than to see Robert scoring big scores every week. A man of his skill riding on a 8pts CMA is insulting.. He is far better riders that that... And lastly, Correct, I have posted comment on here just to get a reaction, but never done so just to gain attention

Hopefully a big crowd for Cradley. Clegg fantastic round perry Barr and will suit Smith more than wolves does. Equally so Perks is exceptional at this level round there as is Hume. And the Thompson twins grew up round there. But hopefully fans from all 3 clubs turn up and if it is to be the last of a NL Cradley bow out with a big crowd. Support your team heathens fans.

Wrong British Speedway does nothing better than Poland, they have a limit- U21 riders at 6/7 and 14/15, along with the 3 foreigners max in the top 5 rule. one thing they should bin is the ridiculous U23 no 8 rider.

Pff! I'll raise you a Gregg's chicken and bacon slice, a cheese & onion slice and a vegan sausage roll. :-)

Webbo, you been on that Jamaican Old Holborn ? Schlein the best ? Ffs. Have a word with yaself. As for Lambert, who do you think Lynn would attract to replace him ? He has ridden for Lynn this season when injured when most riders would have called off. Would you say Micheal Lee showed great commitment to the Lynn cause ? No of course he didn’t but you (and I) would turn up every week to watch him around Saddlebow. As for Buster taking a backseat at Lynn, are you series ? Can you ever see that happening while the guy has breathe in his body. ? I do wonder if you just stick these post up just for a reaction or to gain attention. #amazing

Yes, as it stands you're right, but I'm assuming, rightly or wrongly, that Exeter will win their match in hand.

Whatever happens it is likely they will get if wrong in time honoured fashion.

Racing was good but the facilities for supporters are dreadful for a track that’s been around for quite a while now.

Not to mention: No permanent track of their own and still running in 10th season. No assistance from Dudley Council despite promises.