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So, therefore, the only correct and sensible thing to so is to carry on with such a winning formula isnt it? Keep running seven man teams even though there isnt enough riders, meaning every team can share several riders with someone else in the league below and thus, very little demarcation between the top two leagues.. Thus, zero aspirational attainment to grow... Keep running fixed (restrictive) race nights simply to ensure all the riders have an opportunity to do a seven day stretch and have loads of rides... With whether your fans thinking it is the best night to race on being very much a secondary (and maybe even lower?) consideration.. And keep running two leagues with an ever dwindling number of clubs taking part, thus rendering both pretty much worthless recognition wise in winning.. Even more so when any team who wins can, and invariably will, get help from every other team in the league to attain that "success"... They seem to have unearthed a new adage.. "If it IS broken, dont fix it".

Not from what I was told and that's from the rider himself

Adrian Smith will be another in quite a long line who have seen the sport from outside and thought "Wow! What potential".... So therefore, got involved, .. And, like others before him, would have gone into it thinking that all he had to do was highlight to the those already incumbent all the obvious inherent flaws that all can see hold the sport back in the UK... And then simply convince them that there are a great many alternative ways of moving this great sport forwards... However... Like so many others before him he has failed to take into account how insular and short term focused so many within the sport are, with many appearing to be "quite happy" with their lot as they hold 'some power'... Failing to grasp of course that they 'hold power' in a sport that hardly anyone has heard of, never mind cares about.. "Ideas People" are not wanted....

To add to this, Oxford have accepted it. They're not idiots, they clearly have faith a Wednesday will work for them anyway and have moved forward with it

So just signed back in to the forum and can't believe the amount of utter tosh thats appeared in the past few hours. Jeez.

Poole prob don't overpay riders as much as you think they do! But they do always pay on time, and that in itself can be the difference between a rider signing for us or another club.

Who do you get if you morph Steve Worrall & Richard Lawson together??? STEVE LAWSON Now there's a quality rider from back in the day can we sign him??

Apparently @philtheace is saying it's because a sponsor has dropped out at Plymouth. Perhaps Richard is still scarred from the Eastbourne treatment this year to take any risks and would rather play it safe by being paid on time.

Shame would rather have Stevie Worrall back tbh.

In a year when 3 championship clubs have folded and one came very close to doing so and criticism of the treatment of the NDL has at times been scathing, that is hard to accept. If they are motivated by 'self interest' then the plight of the sport as a whole may not matter much and there are those who would far sooner state that everything is fine when - clearly - it isn't than admit they have got it seriously wrong. In doing so, they fool themselves only.

Keep this thread open as it winds people up saying Workington not in this league, but they don't complain when Poole/oxford are posting in both league's

Hope this link works from speedway star new Northside track from the air https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3082127202023137&id=100006776612494

he is thinking of coming over for one last season and has had plenty offers just needs a few things to fall into place

Too young

It’s a forum what do you expect!

You are completely overlooking one fact - 6 teams using a Friday as their main race night DOES NOT mean that those teams will be able to race every Friday. If Oxford were to be accepted as a Friday track, they would be bottom of the pecking order when it comes to having priority over that day. That means that they would have to use their alternative race night 5 times, when racing the other teams using a Friday. At present, this equates to half of their home fixtures being raced on 'off' nights if a team is wanting to race every week, in addition to KOC, Play-Offs being raced on 'off' nights too. So your argument is flawed IMO

no

But it shouldn't be 7 man teams if you cant make the leagues credible entities using that template.. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result each time? Madness is the definition I believe.. (Which is quite Ironic really as there was seven in that band, and then six)....

Think the insiders know why Lawson would not ride in the same Team as Richie Worrell.So we’re Plymouth after Richie.

Yes but its not, its 7 man teams

If the BSPL were to do a survey to find out the average age of spectators that go to watch live Speedway they may find out the true state of British Speedway, for sure it IS broke but they year on year make no attempt to fix it, I will guarantee now that at least 1 other Team will fall by the wayside in 2022, last team standing turn the lights out please. One other fact some fail to realise is that any NEW Promoter cannot even vote or propose any new measures for 3 years, so he/she can see obvious problems within the Sport but cant even propose/vote for any changes, but he/she can continue to throw money at Speedway but cant do anything about it for 3 years, except walk away how stupid is that ?. Fixed racenights, Doubling up are not in the best interests of British Speedway, they are in fact detrimental to British Speedway but the powers that be cant see any further than the end of there noses.

As Oxford would be bottom of priority list would also mean at least 4 home meetings on your alternative race night thus losing any consistency to the casual fan

I personally think Steve could kick on after a brilliant season at poole, seems really happy at poole, so hopefully him and Danny spearheading the pirates next season

It makes total sense to allow tracks to race on the night they feel will deliver their best crowds.. And for an entertainment business you would think Friday would deliver more punters than a Wednesday. (Especially the much needed families with young kids who hopefuly will become adult punters in later years).. Absolute crackers that they hold back the sports growth by preventing teams from riding on nights they want to because it means not enough guests will be available.... A ruling that destroys all the sport's credibility, and therefore reduces crowds significantly, and keeps major sponsors and mainstream media away, prevents tracks from riding on nights that they feel would increase the crowds that follow the sport.. An amazing plan...

Think as KOTT says as well. Would Steve maintain that average? I don't know he's had couple up and down years. Hasn't been a consistent number 1 over the years. Lawson is a very good rider, very reliant on his gating though

Got to be honest. Danny King is simply a much better rider than Steve Worrall and he's capable of doing a job at No.1 by maintaining his average. Steve Worrall even though he's popular among the Poole faithful wouldn't be able to maintain his average. Take into account the numerous amount of meetings Steve rode in the engine room with easier races than Danny. I'm interested to see how this play's out as I'm hearing one thing and Trackerman has heard another while the Polish press are reporting the Lawson story. Can't fit all 3 in so one has to go.

Would much prefer Steve Worrall back, not a lover of Lawson

Steve Worrall will be at Poole end . The bell vue nutter posts crap again.

More chance of getting blood from a stone than anyone seeing any money from that crook.

No thanks

I think it was over what he Posted on Social Media at the time.( could be wrong though).Maybe ruffled a few feathers

Has worrell not just signed for Plymouth

Resign or re-sign?

Well yes but that wasn't necessarily what I was getting at, it's been suggested that Plymouth have lost a sponsor so one would imagine IF the Lawson story is true then his deal with the Gladiators has probably been reduced in value so he's looked elsewhere. Either that or Poole decided they wanted him and offered him more, who knows. The whole thing might be codswallop but it's fun speculating

Lisa ur supposed to say no it's not ridiculous coz he's decided to break his contract in both countries coz Middlo said he would end up with egg on his face rather than on his toast if he didn't sign up as a Pirate!

Speedway in the spotlight, now there's wishful thinking....

I’m sure everyone must realise Rob Godfrey is the head honcho at the BSP Ltd they do, that is why they are bitter & twisted. but he doesn’t make the decision by himself unfortunately, they are thick & can not comprehend that concept. As for the Tv money for the 6 clubs in the top league it’s those promoters who refused to split the pot with another club. and Godfrey is not a promoter in the top league. Here's hoping 2022 is better for British Speedway True with better organisation on fixtures back to a season of racing between April & mid October, though, with having a blank week of racing every 4 or 5 weeks to be used as catch up for postponed meetings.

Poole don’t pay riders a guarantee. Only points money. Only time they paid a guarantee was to get Hancock.

just my opinion mate

I know how you feel lol. I've been like that in the past regarding names potentially signing for Peterborough.

I think they are, not sure, i thought Jack had signed for them

I'm not getting into spat. I stated what happened I don't tell lies and I'm not justifying what I said. If the speedway and greyhounds can't or won't accommodate loyal genuine decent paying customers it very sad. No wonder attendances are falling through the floor.

Win with a WORRALL! LIONS.....Richie in 2019 Championship Shield Winners & Championship Champions PIRATES....Richie in 2018 Premiership Champions & Stevie in 2021KO Cup Winners & Championship Champions!! Av served Lions & us Pirates with Pride

He may find hes overlooked by all premiership clubs at first with doubts over his fitness and his average ,maybe get a place in the championship to start the season

From what I understand there's more to it than that. My information could be wrong of course. Either way it's important that Kent continues to have a speedway team, one way or another. I think Iwade could operate as an NDL venue, especially if the Kings fans could tolerate the sparser facilities. I found it to be basic but with a heart of gold. At least a speedway team would be welcomed there.

who stopped you going in the bar ? Where was this "hole in the wall serving £4.50 lager plus stodge and chips"? ---- chips unfortunately were not available as many fans wanted ...only chilli and rice, curry and rice, pie and mash and if ordered sausage and mash and this is all controlled by the stadium with the speedway having nothing to do with the catering and bars. It is their ruling that food and drink cannot be brought in as it is at some other stadiums. The promotion did try to request different menus but they are awaiting their kitchens being renovated and extractors replaced hence no chips, burgers etc . Sorry you regarded it as a dreadful experience .

I just try to put a side together as close to the limit which maybe isn’t always the best idea so doyle, heeps, cook, musielak, king, Allen is doable jake was practicing his golf the other day so there is a link lol

Thank you for doing everything you can to keep our club alive and give us hope.

Yorkshire v Lancashire, Sussex v Kent? Think the problem is the same reason why the SGP contracted back to 16 riders - it's got to be affordable for the organisers and paying for 16 teams to be there, with the risk that the host team or Poland goes out early, is not going to fly. Plus, the pairs format is not really conducive to a knockout competition - it's pretty unsatisfactory that you can be knocked out even though one of your riders wins a race.

I can see Riss riding for us and Starke but can’t see kemp or Rowe returning. Maybe danyon Hume may return. He is a witches asset after all and I’m sure Danny will give him a recommendation after being teammates at poole last year