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Tonight wolves were at home to Kings Lynn, I live 2 miles from the track, I had nothing else to do, I was brought up a wolves fan, while I think it’s too expensive in general money is not an issue for me, I am speedways greatest fan, always have been and yet I didn’t want to go tonight,It just didn’t grab my attention enough to attend, I watched it on tv but that didn’t really stop me going either and I missed the first 3 heats as I was watching something else, it’s just not grabbing me, I can’t affiliate with a team of mercenaries who parade as my team, there is no point in having a league with teams that are filled with riders that ride for someone else, I know I am sounding like a broken record but if the sport can’t grab someone like me what chance does it have for a new audience, when I watch British speedway now I feel like I’m watching something else, on track speedway is full of bad annoying habits like starting offences, gardening, adjusting chains etc after a restart, it’s not needed it’s habit and annoying habit at that,

I think Speedway is definitely split down the middle with fans of a team and fans of the sport. Team fans want continuity of riders, a bond with the club and a feeling of belonging. Sport fans want entertainment, close matches a little controversy and excitement. Rarely these days do either group get anything close to what they desire and hence the mess the sport is in.

Overrated by who? He's what he's always been, a decent second division heat leader and a reasonable top flight rider. Not sure anyone expects anything different. 41 points is a lot more than I expected, we are one change away from being a half decent side but it's all academic now for this season.

Great stadium, great track, competitive team and often top-drawer racing. If that can’t attract people through the turnstiles what will?. Back in to day league meetings were followed by a mini individual meeting comprising 6 riders from each team. Maybe an extra 4-7 races per meeting would give extra value for money and entice a few more to come.

Don't necessarily agree with that, I think their hands have been tied by foreign commitments for those coming in, no point in using anyone over here already as it wouldn't be an improvement. The mistake was keeping both Kerr and Jorgensen in the team for this year and going with Kildemand when he is only ever one ride away from breaking bones. Changes now won't secure 4th but will keep people interested (ie no R/R or guests) and lay some foundations for 2023.

Deanno, I know exactly how you feel, the BSPL are in it for there own benefit not for the benefit of Speedway in GB, when the Tuners appear to be the only ones making money from the sport apart from a few over paid riders, those at the top simply wont/cant see where its wrong for a rider to have 2/3 Teams in the same country, as for equipment costs I wont even go there.

What else is October for if not the final of the Spring trophy

Wonder who they'll use as a guest

How much longer are they going to get away with the Kennett thing? All season I guess.

Flint is not far off that trajectory, but with riders peaking later and later it would be unwise to rule riders out (Jason Doyle was 27 by the time he met that target). However it doesn't matter that most of them never become world class, because that is simply an unrealistic expectation. What is vital is that riders like Palin, Kemp and the Thompson twins are not discouraged and keep working to improve so that at the very least we have some riders to staff our league teams in five years time.

Glad you enjoyed it mate, certainly was a fun day up in them hills, sadly buxton is no more, well the track is still there and used for the ride n skid days but not for meetings anymore, I was up there last saturday and did some laps round there trying out an engine, it did get me thinking ?, maybe ? Who knows

That' is the point. How many aren't interested anymore simply because the team aspect has gone. Most of us don't follow speedway because it's motorbikes; we follow it because it's a team sport. Your local track may still be there, but the lure to get you from your house to wanna go and support the local "team" isn't, because, deep inside, you don't feel it's actually a team.

Not at all. Abbie says you're still chasing the play-offs...

Any word on season ticket refunds Steve?

Steve Worrall raced in a SWC, Kyle Howarth has been involved with Team GB. If anything I think Lawson seems to get shunned a bit. He's miles better than Kerr and even he's been in the GB setup.

In fairness I think most people could work out why Roynon is guesting, I think the issue is they've got him guesting for their top 3. Which is madness.

With only the last 10 meetings counting for rolling averages by the time 2023 comes round I can see why Klindt would see this as an attractive little contract to adjust his currently inflated figure........

And Lawson never fails to underwhelm, probably the most overrated product of British Speedway in the last 10 years.

It's to late.

Not buying that. Lynn fans were the ones moaning last year when we were becoming champions. We got the team we all wanted barring one I wouldn't have re-signed. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. What we do know is Ostergaard, Andersen, Nicholls are finished at the top level. Harris has had a very good season as has Basso. MPT has been injured most of the season and one I'd have back but certainly not at number one. Palin, Jenkins waste of time this year.

If people stop testing themselves and just think they have a cold,, it will disappear overnight.

Good job I didn’t buy one then …. I would be 6ft under by now

Remember on a visit to Exeter being able to stand right up to the fence and as three riders passed I lent over only for Olle Nygren to pass by terrifying the life out of me! He was so far back I had forgotten that he was still in the race!

No worries. I have no plans to delete it so it'll be there until eternity I'd guess haha.

It's certainly an interesting and enjoyable watch. Plenty of passing and incidents and incredibly 30 30 after 10 heats.

It`s a shame that the Extraleague Torun camp was so ignored by the Brits.

LOL and they want new people to come to speedway?Any new person watching would have spent the entire meeting wondering what the heck....................................is it some kind of bonus zone for the riders?!!!

The Commonwealth games stadium is only 5 mins away, that mcDs will do a roaring trade

Much of what you've mentioned is how I feel. I don't think speedway tried hard enough to keep the fans it already had, and I mean going back decades. I know it didn't try hard enough to win disillusioned fans back. The make-do attitude, live-for-today mentality, and pick-any-rider rules have brought the sport to its current state.

The David Hawkins era of 1991 ,

Na as ad get stuck on the top of it lol but I meant the speedway fence ha

Does that make Espen Sola an even younger gun?

Yeah, great shout, although he would have won a bunch of them if it wasn't for the New Zealanders.

Agree with 2020 point but also don't think Newcastle cl spot helped him

Yeah exactly. Apparently he saved speedway in Swindon a few years ago but now he can't force them to build it. He's full of sh1te. Someone on the Adver comments said that Gaming were initially told to build the stadium before any houses were built but said they can't afford it without the funds from the housing. If that's true and SBC agreed to that then that decision has killed us. Why didn't SBC or Tomlinson do their research on Gaming before agreeing to that. £££££££££££££???????

Finishing 5th 20years ago would have represented a decent season finishing 5th now in a 6 teams league represents a poor season- changes all 3 league structure is definitely needed for next season not sure what or how but something has to happen .

Certainly not overrated in the Championship in the last few years.They are just earning living nowadays ,there’s always a guest booking with the right average!

Rune Holta desperately searching for his Norwegian passport?

Don't disagree with that either. The fact remains that the changes now are irrelevant as we had to win last night. Wolverhampton were the only team we could take out the top 4. That 6 point swing was huge. All we're racing for now is to not finish bottom.

If you've seen Heeps so far this season, I wouldn't be to worried. In this instance, I'd welcome some humble pie

Me too. It was during the Australian Open Tennis when they had that offer on so I signed up while I had the chance.

Discovery Entertainment + Sport £5.99 per month or £59.99 per year. if you have an Amazon Fire Stick you can download it to that, saves having to cast from a phone.

Riders should just not be penalised for moving in my opinion, as long as you don’t touch the tapes let the race go, would cut down on a lot of re runs and late nights

Having you finger nails pulled out with a rusty pair of pliers beats watching that rubbish.

The bike you start the race with is the bike you should start the re run with when it is no more than an unsatisfactory start.. No pit gate open. Straight back round..

Klindt for Iversen, Kvech or Huckenbeck for Kerr.

They're giving big orange lollies as the top prizes. Hence the name, "The Jubbly Cup"

Totally agree , had a hotel in Oxford booked months ago ahead of the Pairs incredible from BSPA that with two and a half weeks to go there is little / no information !

To redress the balance I have had numerous problems downloading the tickets to the app. I contacted the customer service and they did it for me , so I now have the tickets in my app. Not ideal but anyone struggling I would suggest contacting customer service. Buying tickets and accessing them should not be so difficult. I Use See tickets a lot and they still post some tickets and have print at home options or send you an eticket as a pdf. This ticket system could seriously have an adverse affect on the attendance at Cardiff

Not another "the end is nigh" thread!