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From reading some of the views expressed on here, you'd of thought that the only purpose of this meeting was to find a wildcard rider for the Cardiff GP when it was predominantly about winning the National title. Dan Bewley is already in the GP so was he chasing an impossible win from the off?? Being a wildcard in a single GP will be soon forgotten but having your name on the national trophy with all the greats that have won it before puts you in a hall of fame and that's what it should be all about. I really don't see how anybody can say that Adam's wildcard is tainted when the other option was to elect someone as National champion off the back of a ballot after only 3 rides completed . In my opinion that would have been a bigger farce and that name on the trophy would certainly have been tainted. In the circumstances I think they made the right call. Nobody deserved to be called British champion that night and it's correct that it is being re run. I also believe it's correct that Adam, as current British champion should be able to take the wildcard ride that he was denied by Covid as his win was worthy. By all means criticise the organisation for putting this event on so close to the GP without a contingency plan for this scenario but to suggest that Adam should forfeit his place to someone who won nothing is in my opinion ridiculous.11 points
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Why would that have been fair . Not every rider had ridden v each other had the same gates etc etc..The meeting was quite righty declared null and void so people need to stop going on about who scored what as it's has zero bearing on the picking of the wildcard..5 points
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The way I understand this is that the work on the greyhound track finished last night and the speedway had access from today and they found several safety fence posts damaged and needing work / replacing. This gives them less than 48 hours before tomorrows match to find a contractor to possibly break out the posts, concrete in new ones, allow the concrete to cure / harden and then re-hang the safety fence and possible have to have a track inspection of the works carried out before they can race. I am no track expert but I have worked in construction and to get a contractor, get all that work done and signed off in under 48 hours is a tall order which I think the management realise hence the early call off. Give the management team a break I'm sure they want to lose a race day even less than we do, especially for rectification a problem that is no fault of there's.4 points
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Gary May is one of the best team managers, always seems to make the right move.4 points
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He doesn’t deserve it and is not a genuine competitor …. yet 8 days previously he rode to a 4 ride maximum in the European pairs semi final while Chris Harris only scored 4, being replaced in two of his rides. You really have some serious issues to bring up school sports days and parenting. I don’t make up the rules, I flew over to watch my son race. Nothing more, nothing less. if speedway isn’t considered a serious sport , maybe look at the kind of people that follow it and how unreasonable they can be when things don’t go their way. ( clue, you’ll find him in the mirror) I’d love to discuss it more but you seem so angry and looking to blame Adam / me / anyone it would be a waste of time. I’ve met some great people in speedway. I’ve also me some idiots who spend so much time being so angry with everything it’s a waste of energy trying to engage. guess which ones I don’t waste time on.4 points
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Onesport are a bunch of shysters !!! they have decided to make the rest of the SEC series PPV to customers not in a TV contract area. they want 9 Euros for Saturday or 24 Euros for the remaining 3 rounds- well as far as I am concerned they can get stuffed- They promised we would be able to watch the series when they did the deal with TVP Sport Poland. I will be watching on a stream - they are not going to get a penny from me !!! Edit from February From Onesport TVP Sport acquired the rights to show SEC in Poland. - We are already working on broadcasting options in other countries. I'm sure that all speedway fans outside Poland will be able to follow the European Championships without any problems - adds Lejman. http://speedwayeuro.com/en/ppv3 points
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Looks like the numpties have gone into hiding again. They come on here spouting crap without knowing the facts. Yes we do have dog meetings Tuesday Friday Saturday but we also have the BAGS dog racing on Mondays and Thursdays so track time for our track staff is very very limited. Once again idiots with no facts jump on the slag speedway down bandwagon. The people who don’t attend speedway meetings at their own track or people who don’t go to Sheffield speedway regular. There is also stock car racing at Sheffield and they just run their meeting and leave the track in a disgraceful state leaving our track staff vaulenteers to sort out. It’s a real shame these people get on such a high by slagging Sheffield speedway off because with the sport been in such a decline I worry what will happen when there’s no speedway to slag off. Probably be slitting their wrists. Some people really need to get a life and join the real world.3 points
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Picking the current British Champion who would should have gone last year makes perfect sense.3 points
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IMO it is the other way round. The British Final lost a lot of its importance and interest from the average fan when it stopped being on the route to the World Final. Ok, you still became British Champion (the best of British???) but so what?. We did see riders dropping out for little or no reason. The added incentive of going to Cardiff restored some of the interest for the average fan but increased the incentive for riders massively. The chance to ride in your home GP in the caldron that is The Principality Stadium when you're riding well is surely one, most riders find exciting. To split these two endeavours into two meetings would leave the British Final even less meaningful than it was before.3 points
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Go to the link below, then, where it says "Supporters" below it hit the "see more" box continuously until you reach the bottom of the donations, date of the first donations are there: https://justgiving.com/crowdfunding/newcastle-diamonds3 points
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The logic behind Ellis getting the wildcard is one that I agree with. But at same time. Ellis knew that when he won the final the wildcard wasn’t up for grabs. I may be biased but I do think Brennan should have got it but only because I’d like to see the best YOUNG riders Do the wildcard. also it seems the wildcard is more important that becoming British champ. the wildcard situation as taken the gloss off being champion. It’s time we stop this wildcard nonsense. And make it all about the British final ONLY.3 points
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Absolute farce...speedway continues to shoot itself in the foot by msking stupid decisions. Should have been 12 heats and then finals..rather than brainstorming up that crap after 1 hour...disgraceful and if this was in Poland there would have been a riot and what's the betting Eurosport don't show the restaging!?3 points
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Forgetting that 8 days previously he’d scored a 4 ride maximum in the European semi final ( which Team GB won) while Harris was replaced in two of his rides after scoring only 4 points. It pîsses me off that I even need to point this out but it seems that the numpties online spout cråp with impunity. i know I shouldn’t bite, but when I get personal messages slagging him off and read some of this on here I just like to put the record straight. it’s no wonder 99% of riders and officials in the sport avoid this site like the plague.2 points
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Maybe they not fixed the tapes. Maybe that’s the real reason. maybe riders are missing. there are no dogs today so got all day today to sort the problem but I am a cynic2 points
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Or this would be another very well thought out solution, but no that would just make sense and too obvious so the powers that be thought they’d mix it up abit2 points
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Not particularly a fan at all. I just like to see someone given their fair due. Hence, I can't really accept him being labelled as not world class or other riders 'destroying' or 'easily' beating him in a year when the facts indicate he was damn close to being, if not THE best rider in the world. Going forwards I can't think of any other rider who had as much control over a speedway bike as Hans Nielsen. But if I was to identify a chink in the armour, I think his nerve and judgement wavered a bit more than it did for other greats when it came to the very sharp end. He lost three run-offs for the World Title and let the 96 GP title slip when well within his grasp. And I think the clashes with Knudsen and Ermolenko (although he got away with the former) showed rare misjudgement.2 points
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In the event of the British Final being abandoned....the Cardiff Wildcard should go to the leading (British) rider in the British League averages (IMO) I guess (at present) that would make 'Bomber' the worthy candidate!2 points
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Could and probably should of just said too Brennan and Harris, need a run off between you both for the wildcard spot, then restage the meeting at a later date too see who the champ is. If they hadn’t faffed about I can’t see that the track wouldn’t of held up enough for one race2 points
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Great news.... Weds Sept 7th....Alan Grahame Memorial Meeting.... I look forward to paying my respect to a true legend of the sport. Not just a great rider, but a great person too!2 points
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I was there Monday, not that that matters and have now had time to think about this. Should a contingency have been in place? Of course it should, but it wasn't!! Should the result stand? No of course not. 3 rides in and obviously some riders had an easier 3 rides than others. Should Adam get the wild card? On Mondays showing, then no, but Monday is a one off meeting that didn't finish. I think he's the only fair choice having missed out last year. He had a poor 3 (2 really) rides for sure, but it can happen to any rider. Let's get behind him and let him have his big day with the support of the nation. Good luck to him.2 points
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You'd think Ellis was a Championship reserve who somehow fluked his title last year reading some of the comments on here. Okay so he's not been quite as good as last season but he's still got the 3rd highest average amongst British riders in the Premiership and qualified for the European Championship. And maybe worth remembering 2013. Nicholls finished runner-up to Woffinden in the British Final. Harris (3rd) got the wildcard instead. I'm a Harris fan and wanted him to win this meeting but I don't really see that he's in much of a position to complain given the chances he's had previously. Brennan's time will come. He's been unfortunate to miss over a year of development through Covid and injury but you can see the progress he's making. Hopefully he'll be given the 1st reserve position, get a couple of rides and I'm sure he'll get the wildcard sooner rather than later.2 points
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Incorrect. The result only stands IF a re-run can't be staged. Most promoters don't bother re-staging a league match if it reaches heat 10 (for obvious reasons), but the British Final can be re-staged, so the result of Monday becomes null and void. 'someone' (literally) posted the regulations yesterday, but here's the link again: http://www.scbgb.co.uk/regulations2 points
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… and that is your opinion. Fortunately those making the decisions don’t agree with you. As the meeting was abandoned, the only “fair” decision was to have the current British champion have the Cardiff wildcard. It doesn’t really matter if you agree or not because that is what is happening. I do feel for Bomber - who was riding out of his skin on Monday - as always. Tom Brennan will get his chance in the future as is making good progress in his career.2 points
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Yes but my point is the track would have still been rideable for 2 or 3 more races whilst they were pratting around ringing some bloke up in Italy and asking the riders what should we do!?. Anyway there all it's, but's and maybe's but in my opinion what they came up with was a farce and just sums up British speedway. For instance I've seen fixtures recently where teams are putting out R/R's and guests without tracking a single team rider and then the situation at SON where we have no reserve when a rider gets injured. No wonder all my mates mock that I'm into speedway as it really is run like a tinpot sport in this country. Oh and remember Belle Vue v Poole a few years ago in the showpiece final?...there's another example with the same dimwits in the background making stupid decisions..maybe Godfrey, Steele and their cronies should run for prime minister as they certainly have all the attributes!2 points
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Technically Ellis will still be the British champion when the British GP is staged, so correct decision was made.2 points
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Once the decision was made to restage the meeting the rule book is quite clear on procedure. Don't forget that once the meeting is abandoned no further track action is permitted so a race-off on the night wasn't an option.2 points
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None of that makes sense..why was it a impossible win ? If it had not rained the meeting would have finished and we would have got a wildcard ..in what world is that impossible.. You might not like it but no result was called last night so it means next to nothing how the riders were getting on. it's null and void and just an unlucky for thou's involved the Bottom line is the Current British Champion who was robbed of his chance last year will take his place. I can't understand what all the hate is about ..2 points
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I spoke with Danny Ford on Monday at Belle Vue and he said it cud be a 3 leg Final. Middlo backed that up tonight but did say that's wot the rumour is.1 point
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Have to agree, has to be the worst way to split ties, ranked lower because you didn't race the others!1 point
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I can't agree with Brennan being Champ, when 3 riders were tied - not fair to say Harris had beaten neither as he never got to race either of them. I could agree with having a quick run-off for the Cardiff spot between Harris & Brennan before the rain got worse. But not to decide the British Champion, as to me Nicholls, Steve Worrall etc were well in the mix, so better to re-stage the meeting & get a clear winner!1 point
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I also don't think the British final should be at Belle Vue every year. Not every rider does well there and would give other clubs the chance of extra revenue.1 point
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Agree. Last season in the Prem imo. Scott has a full time punditry job waiting for him whenever he's ready imo. World Cup, GP's and I think he would join Kelvin on commentary for every league match shown on TV or he'd take up Sam Ermolenko's role. Championship club can just get a guest in for Scott whenever he's unavailable due to the punditry commitments.1 point
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In the table Poole on 13 and Oxford on 10. So a draw will be enough to see us through to the final.1 point
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The meeting shouldn't be called null and void, the result should stand as in a league match called after ht.10. The losing team don't say '''We could have won this match'' then declare it null and void. The result stands. If as the rules say draw a ballot, then so be it, not the best solution, but that's in the rules. Or a fairer way would be to have a race off before practice at Cardiff, winner gets the wild card, the loser a reserve spot.1 point
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My first live meeting for 4 years and it was pretty decent to be fair. 2 full strength teams, close score throughout and some decent racing at times. And to top it all neither Poole nor O*ford won lol. What's not to like?1 point
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The presenters of the British final were floundering badly after rain brought it to a halt, switching between each other like they were playing a game of pass the turd. This wasn't their fault, however, more likely poor direction belying lack of preparation for something which was very predictable to happen.1 point
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Thought you could not guest if not declared in Premiership or Championship teams?1 point
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I think this is the current 5 year plan, and for once it seems to be going well1 point
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You do have it laugh at the sheer dumb founding attitude of certain speedway fans on this forum with regards to the Adam Ellis wildcard situation. This years final has not been completed and there needs to be a wildcard chosen…….it was decided that highest placed non GP rider would get it…. The meeting was abandoned with NO RESULT….. thus meaning NOBODY was highest placed. I am a huge Tom Brennan fan (especially after his Ipswich guest performance) but to say he should get it over Harris or Nicholls or King or Kerr or Steve Worrall would be a complete farce as all of those guys ( maybe a couple of others) have every right to say they could have made the final … what if Harris or Brennan had an Ef or a fall and finished on 8??……. So they gave it to Adam Ellis who missed out last year so easily the best option. All that’s got to happen from now on is that the British Final is always AFTER Cardiff….. thus the 2022 winner is Cardiff wildcard in 2023 and the 2023 winner is the Cardiff wildcard in 2024……. The only issue is if the 2023 British Final is before the 2023 Cardiff GP then who would get the wildcard Seems to me that people are to bothered by who they love to hate ….. those who can’t stand Bomber want Brennan… those that don’t like Ellis want Bomber or Brennan!!! Fans letting personal choices cloud the reality The only issue last night was keeping the fans at the track in the dark … showing the ineptitude of the people running the meeting1 point
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1) Kyle Thomson 2) Jacob hook 3) R/R 4) Broc Nicol 5) Justin Sedgmen 6) lee complin 7) James Pearson Plymouth 62-28 brummies1 point
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Absolutely shocked at the vilification of Adam Ellis , and to refer to him as a scumbag is disgraceful. He has done nothing wrong. All Adam has done is turn up to NSS to defend his title and surprisingly he's had a poor first three heats, but as we know that's speedway. He might not be in the form of his life but who knows how things can suddenly change with form. Ludicrous when people say he should relinquish his position as champion when he won it fairly and squarely last year, and his successor could not be crowned last night. As we know with 40% of the meeting still to be run, misfortune could have hit Bewley, Harris, Brennan and any of the others. That is speedway on an evening of crappy weather. As has been proved just lately , a contingency plan is necessary for big title deciding events. The shocking mismanagement of teamGB not being able to replace Woffinden in the SON final and Flint in the U19s are prime examples. There should have been a second reserve date this week to resolve the British final issue. If businesses were run the way this country and British speedway are run we wouldn't have an economy. As far as I know Adam is a decent lad who gets on with his job, and its time for people to get behind him for the Grand Prix in Cardiff. Wouldn't it be wonderful if he won it1 point
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