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Actually they don't if they haven't negotiated in good faith and are trying to try to get out of their responsibilities within the local plan and LP30. That interestingly came up on Bratters interview on BBC Radio Cambs after the PCC spokesman said that added infrastructure costs were the responsibility of the developer as stated in the local plan. Surprisingly the presenter was interested by that and said that they need to look at whether the same applies to LP30? Fengate is the talking horse for that new track, as it has been for 20 years. Whether that was ever reality, or how far it got depends on who you speak to. At the end of the day though, LP30 specifies a like for like replacement either at the EoES or elsewhere. If AEPG wish to kick us out then that cost is down to them and their opposition to LP30 when it ever appears needs to be challenged. I agree that we have come to the party late but initially the club said that it would need a change of circumstances and one assumes that they tried their best and only finally conceded defeat for the reason in the first sentence. As Bratters said, we couldn't do much until AEPG played their hand, which they now have, and the response has been good but it needs to be kept going and ramped up. A 10 year vision of developers and the usual artists' impression of a development that the Peterborough public don't want and destroys an existing culture, leisure, tourism & community facility is good ammunition for the fight we potentially face unless common sense prevails.

Because they want to be seen as someone in the know. We chatted with Artem then watched him do some practice laps. Have video evidence too for the doubters

I don't know why people just have to lie about things(Siggytastic).This sort of things just starts the negative rumours going and sets this forum into overdrive,all because one person has to spout Bull$h!t

I watched him do laps of Peterborough if that helps? Definitely travelled

The unviable really needs to be shot down. How many sports clubs are profitable? Just about every sports club gets a benefactor’s money thrown at them. That doesn’t mean they should be built on.

I'd say he's had a very lucky escape!

As a rule of thumb if there is some concern over the weather and Rory is due to ride I’ll not bother to leave home. It’s a stance that has saved me a lot of time, effort and money over the years.

Some people actually follow through with it when they say they’re fed up of the dross that’s served up and are going to walk away. Doesn’t mean they’re not fans of the sport, but of how it is run. I’m a Speedway fan but it would take a lot to get me to a domestic meeting these days. Doesn’t mean I don’t follow it. I just refuse to hand over my money because doing so tells the people running the clubs they’re doing a good enough job. They’re not. “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Albert Einstein.

AEPG have prepared a document about the loss of the speedway site as it relates to the Local Plan and that has been given to the Council apparently. Mick and I have seem their summary which isn't that good or impossible to argue against. I can't say more than that. I guess that their full document will appear publically at some point? The local paper today conveniently fails to mention AEPG & PCC's responsibility under LP30 so perhaps best to keep banging that drum and then deal with how AEPG think they've dodged it.

Is it Vissing gone missing? He has that nickname for a reason

Go out anyway and get a table for 1. Shouldn't be a new experience.

Riders were simon Lambert, Conor Mountain , Danyon Hume, Nathan Ablitt, Drew Kemp, Jordan Jenkins ,Ashton Boughen and Luke Harrison so 4 scunthorpe riders and a scunthorpe born rider in the 8 wonder I who could of had a big say in the selection .

Yup, that will be part of their argument. They really haven't thought it through or consulted anyone with that intelligence and understanding. It's a community facility for the city of Peterborough and such facilities and operations rarely make a profit and need additional funding. The EoES could be a multi function entertainment complex incorporating Peterborough Speedway (and Bratters gave some examples of how in his first radio appearance) and used all year round for the benefit of the whole city. Somehow a 10 year concrete vision at the expense of one of the city's major Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community facilities won the day, funny old word innit!

I understand your point, but if your partner cheated on you repeatedly and generally treated you awfully would you walk away or keep going back just because you love them? It’s a similar principle. Looking at the crowds the sport attracts these days I’d say more people have taken the same action I have than not. To get to a meeting anywhere it would take a two hour journey for me, if Rye House were still running perhaps I’d think differently. I get my fix these day at GPs or through TV meetings that are part of a subscription I already pay for. Fair play haha! Far from negative. Just realistic and don’t like to see a sport I love being run in to the ground. Plenty of fans out there like me who could be attracted back, not much being done to do so.

I find it amazing that somebody would not hand over money to pay for something they enjoy just to make a point. Hate to say it, but it's not going to change just because you stopped going. Enjoy your life, and do the things you enjoy. If there's no speedway in this country in 10/20 years, you'll end up regretting it I'm sure. But each to their own.

I'll happily take Panthers on a -8 to -10 Handicap tonight if offered. Think Stevie will have one eye on Cardiff, Schlein won't like the track if it's wet and Masters' form has dipped in recent weeks.

I'll be heading down to the Showground tonight to watch the last ever meeting between these two clubs despite having a BSN season pass. Panthers to win this one comfortably but Douglas to put on his usual classy showing around Peterborough.

You mean the bar.

Loram rode in the British League for Hackney in 1987 when 16. He then had two years at National League level in 88/89 with Hackney & Ipswich before returning to the British League full time at Lynn.

There’s no rule that you have to go to speedway to be on this forum though?

Along with all speedway fans from around the UK and more hopefully.

I appreciate everything you are doing Mick

The play-offs should be starting at the beginning of September and for the top four teams only. Or better yet, the top team should be crowned league champions after all fixtures are completed. Six teams qualifying for the play-offs in a nine team league is ridiculous. Only just pipped in the stupidity stakes by four of the seven Premiership sides qualifying for the play-offs in that league. The current system almost renders most of the racing pointless across the season as everyone gets a medal for competing. And you have a situation where a team deep in the bottom half of the table can somehow be crowned champions.

Peterborough Speedway has a future but it has to continue running next season preferably at the showground or elsewhere. If it stops it won't return

Same here, Broke even too but I'll take that after his 3,3 start as I was expecting to lose after that.

I think the expectation is there because of how far he has come in a year since first sitting astride a speedway bike, and the style he has on the bike already. Best thing he can do is get over to Poland next year, its been rumoured that that will be the case. It could go either way of course but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he isn't a big name in the sport in a few years time.

Would sum up British speedway nicely if they get a guest

I think you will find that they are... "Bob and Elsie"s Chippy" in Gorton has just given them half a billion quid a season to have their advert put in the programme...

how bad is cierniak injured ?

Although I'm not suggesting it, it would be cheaper to pay AEPG the unreasonable fortune that they would take for a new lease for the use of an existing speedway track that's in perfect working order and can be used for several more years. Possibly 3 at least to 2026 when the revised and updated local plan is expected to be agreed. Must say that I wasn't hopeful but when I read " It is thought that if the entire development is approved, construction will take a decade to complete" that really put some wind in the sails. Bratters on the radio quoting other local projects where nothing happened for years was also very telling. I thought that Swingers golf range packed up for developers to build houses on but that was about 2008 and it's still a grass car park of sorts.

Worrall is guesting for Klindt… we could only have a guest for TJ, which only leaves a choice of Z.Cook Flint or Jenkins

Breum got 9 in Denmark last night so what,s going on there then.

Only because that's the message being pumped out for that last 6 months. A significant number of fans are now realising that it's not a done deal and that a promotion can't negotiate with those who don't wish to negotiate or make unreasonable demands. The gloves are off now and there is something to fight for.

My bad, I was thinking it was the 1st today haha

We might even get Glasgow back on board for the originally promised three way final. Then again, pigs might fly.

Gutted, I cancelled a date tonight for this match. Was looking forward to ser Artem's new engine.

I'd suggest most are probably going to Cardiff anyway, coupled with no other meetings this weekend

Rob Lyon has said in an article today that he nearly pulled Laguta out of heat 13 vs Ipswich. Rob must have known about Artem's engine problems.

'BEN'D it like Cookie!

Maybe some riders dont like it but many ride it well. I think it produced good racing years ago.

Glasgow will give these 3 a run for their money. IMO

Looked at match report it had no mention of concussion just an elbow injury

Looking forward to this 23 Bandits fans attending, 1st time we've been since 2019 Riders Championship. Got the carvery booked so watch it in style lol

I have been invited on to BBC Radio Cambridgeshire at 8:00am on Thursday 31st August (tomorrow) to discuss the Showground development.

Weather is getting better. Nothing is going to stop Laguta.

Would have been interesting to see how Chris Harris's dream of a Cardiff wild card would have squared with his dream of becoming World Longtrack Champion as the Britsh GP clashes with the penultimate round of the Longtrack series, a problem he fortunately doesn't have. Shame really as he was in vintage form around the EoES last night!

Rumour has it Peter Odemwingie is trying to push through a last minute move to the Stars.

He spent a few years as Halifax team manager before heading back to Adelaide in 1986.

It's basically a way of postponing disappointment beyond July, which is more what your used to.

As a Berwick fan, could someone explain the concept of play offs, it not something I am familiar with.