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  1. There should be ZERO tolerance in these type incidents. We’re not talking carpet bowls here we’re talking a sport where riders suffer life changing accidents and sometimes death. You get caught with those substances in your system, go find another job!!
    14 points
  2. Shocking outcome and punishment. should of got 2 year ban as of when he was found guilty.
    8 points
  3. I find it really strange that the identical "substances" were found in 2 individuals samples. I also think the bans should be reworded to be "seasons" rather than years so that there is no benefit gained by being banned outside of the racing window.
    6 points
  4. Doesn't deserve his racing license back.
    6 points
  5. He needs to sign for a club with a tight track so can hug the white line
    5 points
  6. First time? First time he got caught do you mean, speedway is dangerous if you do drugs don't get on a speedway bike and put others at risk of serious injury.
    5 points
  7. Is the mitigation consideration that he got caught.Seems rather light sentence.IMO.Especially suspending 9 months of it.
    5 points
  8. The British leagues should be having British youngsters at 6+7 also British U24 in the team, instead of all the foreign riders imo
    4 points
  9. Butterfield doesn’t realise it yet, the key to his development plans is held by the Speedway club. He will have to speak to the consortium at some point.
    4 points
  10. He'll have to get another job then... just like a delivery driver would if they lost their licence
    4 points
  11. Thing is ,certain Promotions will still want to employ him,does nothing for the image of the sport.
    4 points
  12. so Morris gets 2xyear ban no test taken? worrall 9mth basically? being guilty of cocaine?? Doesn't add up to me ?
    4 points
  13. How can you defend him.They are meant to be Professional sportsmen ,they know the rules. It is noticeably in every case of drugs in every sport they plead innocent, but very rarely that is the case when results are known.Excuses don’t wash.
    3 points
  14. Makes himself look a bit of a t1t considering all the rubbish he came out with having nothing in his system and got his own tests done what an idiot.
    3 points
  15. Sure think they can , Poole signed the never seen Czech rider (ondrej smatana) (Mr no show ) in 22 and used a facility for a month . As the proposal was from a director and approved by the board I am sure it could be used again for the majority of clubs , or doesn’t it work that way ??
    2 points
  16. Shame that you would have got him in on a 5. I am sure we would’ve helped on an advisory basis too make this happen.
    2 points
  17. Awful news about the vandalism horrible gits whoever it was but I’ve just read the punishments that worrall and boxall got for having cocaine in there systems for me boxall should never be allowed on a speedway bike again and a 4 year ban will probably mean he won’t I no worrall was a Plymouth rider and reading the mitigation put forward I still think his ban should have been 2 years end off these lads/ men put themselves in dangerous positions for our entertainment and someone to put others in danger in an already let’s be honest a slightly dangerous sport is truly shocking it will be interesting who picks him up to ride for them when his short ban is over someone will, for me there is no justification for what he’s done and I do not think the punishment fits the crime.
    2 points
  18. Cocaine is only detectable from 2-5 days after use so it's easy to get a second, clean test a couple of days later. Drug Test Detection Times And Cut Off Levels – UKDrugTesting
    2 points
  19. fyi I have no sympathy for any person taking illegal drugs. If you walk the walk, take the fall. But to put it into context, Rock stars perform on stage to thousands of admiring fans, then get on a coach back to their hotel. Speedway riders have not just their own lives at risk, but also their competitors. Massive difference. But I don't condone either.
    2 points
  20. It’s the watering down of the Sport that most are complaining about.Riders are being force out because of it.In other sports it’s a levelling up process.
    2 points
  21. We have quite a few medics at the track (two ambulances and a rapid response car) so there would have been cover. However I’m unsure (even if the rain hadn’t started to fall whilst Max was being treated) whether the riders would have wanted to continue considering the horrific injuries Max was first feared to have had, had this been the case I am sure none of the fans would have objected we could see it was serious, and most of these are young guys that may not have been in this situation before. Sadly everybody is fixated on the track and conditions, Max’s accident had nothing to do with the track, from the start there were elbows out but at the entrance to 1st bend his bike took off (it looked like his throttle stuck open) and went straight into the fence and he couldn’t get away from the bike, it was a freak accident that nobody could have predicted or stopped from happening.
    2 points
  22. Many seem to forget that BSPL(not BSPA) as it now is, is made up of all the club owners/promoters as Directors of the Limited Company. (Assume this includes the NDL clubs although not sure?).Each has voting rights on most decisions, especially when significant changes are proposed, with the majority winning the day. The Management Board (currently Godfrey, Ford, Louis and Bates) is elected by the majority to make decisions on issues as they arise during the season - especially decisions on misleading rules. For me the major issue is to sort out the rule book once and for all, rather than adding new rules which impact and confuse existing ones and for which a duty board member can easily make a mistake in a split second decision on a race day. Team building and points limits (or rider averages) are subject to the majority vote.
    2 points
  23. So sorry to hear of more vandalism damage at the Coliseum in recent days. Ben Trigger has posted pics etc on Facebook. I know we all banter a bit but no club deserves this.
    2 points
  24. I can’t see us changing our race day to a Sunday, will remain as Saturday’s I would of thought
    2 points
  25. Don't think they need mass testing, they know exactly who they want to catch, that's why their success rate is so high.
    1 point
  26. Hopefully might get some news on Saturday night
    1 point
  27. From evidence we have seen it looks like he has a very large loan to service so he is probably losing a lot of other people's money. And with interest as high as it is, that loan gets a lot bigger the longer it is not fed. Someone owns that loan and may be looking for some way to re-assess the risk profile somewhat. Could be "interesting" if the money drought continues much longer.
    1 point
  28. Perhaps somebody that's paid to do it might be more willing? Just a thought.
    1 point
  29. Take it you get a programme to remember what heat your on lol
    1 point
  30. 1 point
  31. Might be of interest to some. Detecting Cocaine in Your System: How Long Does It Last? (addictiongroup.org)
    1 point
  32. Totally agree, it's not the first time a top rider has been caught taking drugs. Richie maybe thought he'd get away with it , how often he was doing this recreationaly is up to him but ignorance of after effects on himself and more importantly others is shameful. On the other hand if , as has come out his drink was spiked then he's been very unlucky.
    1 point
  33. Tbh, is anybody actually surprised at the statement and the punishments? Boxhall has previous and in the eyes of the BSPA, just another rider. Worrall on the other hand is one of the better riders and a heat leader at most clubs, do we think the the lenient punishment has anything to do with losing a 'top' rider? Morris must be feeling very narked and hard done by with these punishments, tho his ban should have been a yardstick for Boxhall and Worrall.
    1 point
  34. Yes. It was quite clear from the announcements that we were ready to continue once Max's immediate medical needs had been met (and the air fence repaired) and it was only the rain that prevented us doing so.
    1 point
  35. I'd hazard a guess there are only a few ways cocaine can get into your system and very few of those are inadvertently. He isn't really a 'young man', he's in his 30's and has been a 'professional sportsman' for almost 2 decades- it isn't a silly mistake - he should know better! and you can't seriously compare standing on a stage miming to jumping on a 60mph bike with no breaks with 13 other blokes? Give your head a wobble.
    1 point
  36. WOW! Shouldn't be allowed his license back full stop. Speedway is dangerous enough without having to race against someone on the Colombian powder.
    1 point
  37. It's the risk of riding on Same track /heat with him totally wrong putting other riders life & injury to them the mind boggles
    1 point
  38. I am probably miles out lol
    1 point
  39. You could argue, it's just a slap on the wrist, if he's back early June.
    1 point
  40. And Butterfield has never given any impression that he and his land promoters see a future for Peterborough Speedway at the EoES. As far as he and they are concerned it's job done. The messaging from Chapman has been negative from the start and he never (outwardly anyway) put up any fight to save the club or explain what changed from his 2022 message of a few more seasons at the EoES (unless he made that up of course?) to his capitulation of consistently singing the AEPG agenda. And to be fair, CJ had been similarly negative, up to his leaving, from the start (whether under duress or out of necessity I don't know). The supporters club came to the party too late: I've been amazed all year that they've been ticking along like it's business as usual with the sands of time running out for their club as each meeting passed. If only the Peterborough Needs Speedway flag had appeared at that pre-season rider introduction promo rather than at the EoES when time was almost up. What Chapman has or hasn't got to sell and who is pulling whose strings I don't know. It can't be too difficult to make a sale on what he has or hasn't got and draw up a contract with clauses in for future eventualities? It's a shame that the SCB/BSPA can't issue a new licence for say Alwalton Speedway so that the consortium can move forward. SCB/BSPA put in a strong objection to Butterfield and AEPG's planned destruction of Peterborough Speedway but they seemingly are happy to see one of their members take down one of their premium clubs, track and stadium to further weaken their struggling product? Funny old sport innit.
    1 point
  41. As an alternative, install Phil Morris as CEO of league speedway (Team GB carries on as is). What he says go, he answers to no one in a similar way to Barry Hearn did in Snooker in the 80's. Phil's success is measured in three metrics, Commercial Income, spectator figures, broadcast/streaming viewing figures. Profits are ploughed back into the sport. This year he has already made the Premiership appear more professional by getting clubs to adopt a similar presentation style to the SGP's for broadcast meetings which is a small step in the right direction.
    1 point
  42. As this is my last list I have included those riders who for various reasons were not actually riding at the end who I have not included before. 01-Ryan Douglas-Scunthorpe-1040 02-Sam Masters-Oxford-1035 03-Chris Harris-Glasgow-1030 04-Josh Pickering-Edinburgh-1010 05-Benjamin Basso-Glasgow-1000 06-Charles Wright-Redcar-995 07-Danny KIng-Redcar-960 08-Craig Cook-Edinburgh-950 09-Richard Lawson-Poole-945 10-Kyle Howarth-Plymouth-940 11-Vadim Tarasenko-Glasgow-935 12-Rory Shlein-Berwick-905 13-Richie Worrall-Plymouth-900 14-Steve Worrall-Poole-895 15-Scott Nicholls-Oxford-880 16-Lewis Kerr-Oxford-870 17-Leon Flint-Berwick-820 18-Tom Brennan-Glasgow-805 19-Ben Barker-Plymouth-800 20-Nick Morris-Birmingham-795
    1 point
  43. Some hopeful news in today's Express and Star. CVS quoted as stating a site has been idebtified 'fifteen miutes from Monmore'.Early days.
    1 point
  44. And I thought it was start line chalk dust on his snout
    1 point
  45. Speedway fans like to complain about losing riders due to limitation in team building but it's not the only sport it happens in... The salary cap in the NHL means that teams have to move on from big players all the time, buy them out, ship them off to other teams around the league, asset management and keeping the players that's best for the club is all part and parcel of the sport, it's the same with speedway. I would rather there be some sort of team building system in place and have the teams SOMEWHAT level with eachother as opposed to Poole, Glasgow and Oxford signing all the big names and letting the smaller teams scrape up what's left at the bottom of the barrel. Aye the team building isn't ideal, but it's better than nothing...
    1 point
  46. Naah, the rumour is he's a Scorpion again
    1 point
  47. AEPG don't want an agreement. They want speedway gone and the stadium/track flattened so that they are in total control of the space so that they can progress as they see fit. Bratley said that they'd already cancelled one planned meeting. I doubt that there's been another. Butterfield will just kick the can down the road to scupper 2024 and go from there. As consortium spokesman Johnson said: “Before we can do anything, we have to see if we can agree a deal with Mr. Chapman to buy the rights to the Peterborough operating licence and until that happens it is difficult to move forward. Chapman has played a blinder for AEPG all year and so it continues. Job just about done!
    1 point
  48. Leaving aside whether this actually trancends into a return of the Hammers and the whys and why nots, if it were to happen with half decent facilities, it has the potential to be a very well supported club and likely far better supported than previously i would think. Why i say this is it will be the only club in the south east . Since closure at Lakeside Rye , Eastbourne and Kent have gone. i know Iwade are operating as Kent but with Lakeside operating in Premier or Championship fans likely to go there instead. When Rye was Saturdays a few years ago in Premier they were getting decent crowds, c 1,500 - 2,000, and the people i spoke to there were coming from far and wide. At that time there were 3 other tracks in the south. I would be very optimistic if they can get Hammers back on track and sensible stadium facilities here or elsewhere in borough. UP THE HAMMERS ! WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THEM BACK.
    1 point
  49. Another shame, always liked kyle, always gives his best.
    1 point
  50. Strange one that, he gushes over Emil, but struggles badly with anything Ipswich, he always has.
    1 point
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