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And sadly that is true! With my Poole hat on Brennan is replaced by Lewi, Brennan is the much better rider, Ben Cook is replaced by Zach or Anders, Ben is a much better rider than those. Poole had to lose 7 points which I don't dispute that is the rules made by all clubs at the AGM. Admission will increase again in 2025 I'm sure for all clubs as costs have increased. But anyone that tells me the team coming to tapes in 2025 and the one that finished 2024 at Poole is a better product are living in a different universe. It is a weaker product on offer, I will still go but please don't tell me its the same or better as it isn't! Back to Glasgow if the team is as predicted, they will start as favourites for 2025. Entertaining team that will put a show on for the fans on a great race track. Good luck in 2025

Always knew a Ben Basso average reduction to a 5 was on the cards.

Glasgow will be running a NDL level Glasgow select team in 2025 with the focus being entering the League in 2026. Andrew Meredith & Gordon Mcdonald will be the team managers, and will be running 'friendlies', individuals & challenge events. After each event all riders from both teams will be given track time after the meeting to allow them to work on things that they may have struggled with while racing. Glasgow will be looking at running on a Sunday for NDL level racing ,with Glasgows track staff running practise days to help with the team funding. Where Glasgow has fallen behind in youth development, 2025 should see a significant change to that.

Give me modern Ashfield anyday over Wimbourne Road

Skidder1,SteveLyric2 or clive tyers or whatever name you're hiding behind you really need to grow up,I really do wonder about some of the things you post it's very child like and never funny unless your 8 yrs old or thick.

Kye Thomson returns for 2025. One I wouldn’t of been overly fussed if he was moved on this winter.

Apologies for that, wasn't my finest hour. Not in a sulk, just needed to get away for a bit. When an internet forum starts to affect your mood/mental state/health etc it's time to have a break. Back now refreshed and looking forward to 2025. Merry Christmas! 🎅

Inferior stadium really, I’m guessing you haven’t been up lately if at all.

A stadium inferior to Poole,a track maybe better than Poole,a promotion clearly no where near as good as Poole ( trophies titles ) and supporters who turn up in more numbers at Poole, why have a go at Poole, don't label all Poole supporters with the same brush as I have no axe to grind with any club supporters and I have said before I wish all teams were the same would make all matches closer.Why can't your team attract better riders the Italian bloke is no no1 and Barker is no no 5 is it down to money or location you seem pretty knowledgeable why are Plymouth never challenging for trophies ?

We all care at Poole, very happy to have Richard, nobody misses Basso.

Why is everyone so excited for the team to be announced when we all know the 1-7 and have done for at least a month?

Now that is a bit of good news assuming it is able to go ahead. It's the first small step to reaching the target of an NDL place in the not too distant future. No matter what is chosen to call the competitions in the interim period it is competitive track time that counts for youngsters at that level. The more the better really and practise time too. 👍

No brainer. Jason is 10 years older than Brady so naturally his remaining shelf life is limited and only going one way. In their head to heads in ‘23 Brady won 9 to 5. Emil is also older and it only takes things to change internationally for him to revert to the rider that completed 1 UK season out of 18. Jack is just not a Belle Vue kind of rider and wouldn’t fit in despite Marks love for his fellow Aussies.

There have been many opportunities to date but if you haven’t bought Scott Nicholls’ book there is another chance if you join us at the Brandon Club next Tuesday, 10th December, starting at 8pm. Scott will be signing and selling his book ……. just in time for Christmas. We will also spend the evening chatting with Scott. Everyone is welcome with a charge of only £4 and all proceeds are for the GB Young Lions. Come and join us at the Brandon Club, Brandon, Coventry, CV8 3HW.

Josh Grajczonek?

Cheetahs last 3 riders to be announced tomorrow.

wow thats a shame.young english rider whos keen and wants learn hope he gets somewhere soon.

The league has only lost Pickering, cook and Brennan. Still got all the other top guys in the league. Heat 13 and 15 going to be a major issue. Unless we have two reserves that are going to increase their averages and we’re strong there all year we’re going to be in deep bother.

Someone’s been on the Christmas tipples tonight 😂😂

Skidder1,SteveLyric2 or clive tyers or whatever name you're hiding behind you really need to grow up,I really do wonder about some of the things you post it's very child like and never funny unless your 8 yrs old or thick. Your last 2 posts are really embarrassing stop now Your just digging a bigger hole. Deary me 🙄

As high as 5?

Nobody cares,only clive.

Be careful, he will have you on ignore! Scary stuff!

You definitely wrote that aggressively, the tears still running down your face at the memory of us winning last season’s league title at Wimborne Road.

Ashton Boughen. Come on out.

Qualifiers, plural? Me thinks you’re lying. Still baffles the hell out of me the ill feeling directed at riders striving for individual glory over the decades. Brady got his reward though and I’m looking forward to seeing him push on in the GPs.

Out of the two teams in the final though - the best team won - and at a canter as Leicester appeared to be outclassed in all departments over both legs.

https://x.com/ipswichspeedway/status/1863554307435413536?s=46

It was Bert and Ernie from Manchester that I was referring to. Generally a decent bunch on here the Belle Vue fans, let down by those two clowns. They must be embarrassed also by their delusional ramblings.

Don't think sane fans are suggesting that at all. There just seems to be a couple of delusional Belle Vue fans on how good there team is & was last season. They can't cope with how very very lucky they were in 2023 & had to downgrade for this year. All teams stay fit (which is impossible) the league table for 2025 is 1. Ipswich V V V V V v V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V 2. Belle Vue V V V V 3/4/5. King's Lynn/Leicester/Sheffield V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V 6/7. Birmingham/Oxford

Are people seriously suggesting that because Ipswich were the best team this season (when fully fit) they shouldn’t bother building up to the points limit? LOL. Of course fans of other clubs would say that. So Brennan is available to replace a reserve and you say “nah we don’t need to” and build nearly a point under the limit? 😂😂😂

I'll completely disagree that the Ipswich team needed strengthening, they were he best team by far (till injuries came in). Obviously they want to put out the best team they can to improve their chances of winning the league, so naturally looked to strengthen up. While it seems a surprise a successful team could drop their averages, that could be expected more due to the high points limit. Teams should average out at 42, teams are really running at 43 (40+RS) so teams should end up with lower averages (on the whole).

Having said that re: the strengthening? IF Ipswich hadn't suffered the injuries that they did last season, they most likely would have won the title/play-offs... So, in essence, they may not needed to have strengthened....

Don't understand the decision making there, how much is having an asset like Baek worth if he can't reach a 4.00 average. Even if a club finds a future superstar like Ben Basso (don't know of he belongs to Poole or Glasgow) if he leaves to concentrate on Poland, having him as an asset does nothing for a club. Would rather clubs use Brits first than sign up new "assets"

He's talking about Plymouth, don't know why on a Glasgow thread !!!

It’s strengthening in EVERY way lets not try and play it down.

Long long ago

So do Leicester, Belle Vue, Oxford, Sheffield etc.

If that's the case why do Poole fans not support nl racing?

If you could guarantee that every team would stay injury free then we SHOULD be winning because Ipswich have the best team on paper but we had the best team on paper this year and look what happened. Speedway is a bit of a lottery in that regard. It isn’t like football where you have a squad of 25 players and bring a quality player in when one of your first teamers pulls a hamstring and it makes little difference to the team structure. All it takes in this sport is to lose one of your important heatleaders and it completely derails your season. Belle Vue had issues with Kurtz mid season, but were at full strength when it mattered and took advantage of other’s misfortunes. The same will be the case next year. You need a bit of luck to reach September when the pots are handed out with your full side still intact. IF Ipswich enter the play offs with the same 1-7 that starts the season, then we’ll win it.

Birmingham S. Worrall, Kerr & Lampart Oxford Schlein & Gilkes

thatll be a yes then grow up

The same thing happens every winter, in that fans pick up on a potential issue but it transpires the rule changed to permit it. I agree that there really is no need for secrecy.

I don't see Luke riding NL next year. 1 Jason Garrad 8.36 2 Senna Summers 3.44 3 Ashton Vale 6.17 4 Jacob Clouting 5.04 5 Jody Scott 8.10 6 3.89 Left 3.89 7 Declan Killeen 3.00

A large percentage will be on the limit but the fast gaters won't

You know full well pal the reality of riders wanting to progress fell on its arse a few years ago, look at how many young lads are no longer riding, regulation amongst other reasons is because of that, and the rev limiters is a joke, how many riders are up to 13,500 revs at any time especially NDL lads, Andy your right rules are rules but as pointed out lots of people it’s not helping youngsters continue.

The added cost of the silencers rev limiters will undoubtedly increase the chances of riders saying thanks but no thanks, especially when they find out how much money the clubs are allowed to pay, I hope I’m wrong but it’s certainly not getting riders queuing up to ride, you only have to look at how many don’t enter amateur meetings anymore for prove of that.

Id think outside the box if i was you. Roynon?

Thanks people for the advice. Tried it again tonight and it is now all good. Even better than I expected. Can watch last night(s) meetings and fast forward.