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Strange question all the same. Glad I can educate you then. Perfectly fine with me.

Plenty, are you watching the same match?

What a surprise. A top flight team dominating against a lower level team. Great idea on paper however there is a huge gulf between both levels. And it's been at its closest for years!

Just to comment on that. Was hugely suprised to see that. Edit.... just announced the stands are closed due to strong winds. Understandable.

Why? No one seems interested in this competition anymore. They binned it years ago for this very reason and from what I hear from staging tracks they have been the poorest of the season. Last week's first leg of the final was played out in front off a poor crowd im lead to believe. It's a final........... no one seems to care. Give it some meaning it might, just might be salvaged. Early season and run the final mid season. Just maybe.

Both teams will want to win that's for sure! I'm hoping it's the Baggies naturally

He didn't this season (like many others) so who knows what they will use for averages next season!?? REAL averages would be nice tho!

Don't get calling West Brom one of the weaker teams!!! We finished well above them last season.

Indeed. Some Belle Vue fans feeling rules are only aimed to punish them. Back in the real world an Aces team of 5 home riders faces a team of 3 Wolves riders with iffy guests. Aces can't lose this. Sooner we dump competitions like this the better. I've yet to read any post anywhere that anyone is interested in this competition. I'll have a look at the score later and be nonplussed whatever the result.

yes I'd imagine that's right. UK money is small change and I doubt many other clubs would offers much more vast amount of money for him to even think twice. working at Birmingham I've heard no rumours about Adams/Ermolenko being involved. very well said. Absolutely. A total legend for many clubs in the sport.

I think top rider definition is pretty clear. GP rider, top tier in Poland and Sweden.He didn't qualify as of right tho. He got in thru the back door, opened by Dudek. But taking nothing away from his achievements, in the qualifiers he has been excellent and a 4th place finish in the race off has given that right to be in the GP's. This year he isn't a top rider because he flopped in the WC and hasn't secured his place in THE big leagues. It's his interviews i find nauseating. Talking about wanting to be world champion. He can maybe talk about that ambition now he is in next year's GP, however the last few years his comments have been frankly embarrassing. I'm not gonna knock his ambition and I wish him well on the World stage but I, like many, expect it to be a spectacular flop. Maybe he will prove everybody wrong. I think you make a very valid point that it's probably more Pete Adams that he is loyal too. Have no idea what these Birmingham stories are you refer to tho?

Cook is Aces thru and thru. No denying that. And he always gets my support when he is racing for GB (like any named rider). Woffy is a different class so as such doesn't have to put up with the nonsense our governing body expect. If he rode in England then Wolves would be his number one choice. I'm under no illusion that iv the right offer came to him elsewhere he would most likely take it. He still clearly enjoys being a Wolves asset and just maybe if fixed nights are happening (something him AND all the top riders have been saying for about 8 years now) then we might see him back in Wolves colours. Woffy would get my support every time over Cook, which really is no surprise.

With the news of a suspected bigger league and more teams I doubt that they will use those inflated averages again.Still, one never knows!

And Cook got the abuse last night for his behaviour and his social media activity. Seems all sorted then. Seems both sets of fans behaviours explained.

I think it's his comments on TV talking about wanting to be world Champion.

Cook thinks he is. And I suppose the foul abuse Woffy suffered last year at the NSS was mild in comparison and a large section of Aces fans are very well behaved in comparison. Aces management have acknowledged the despicable behaviour of Aces fans in the Play offs, rightly so. I guess you can see how hypocritical your post comes across, as well as sour.

I'd assume it's because he isn't very popular. He's no Woffy let's face it.

I'd agree with that. Second string yes.

I have asked previously without much success (not of you, just in general) what crowds have been like for any of the KO meetings? General consensus seems that crowds have been poor. Which kinda backs up my point. Be interesting to see if Aces fans turn up for this one tonight. It might have a factor I agree, but I don't think crowds are there to support this competition. Hopefully they will tonight.

The fans continue to vote with their feet. No one is interested in the KO Cup.

As bad as some Aces fans?? That would take some doing.

His scores of 8 and 5 for Rye this year means he could be seen as a risk.

I was frankly shocked! as previously stated to another poster Nicholls has been average at the Green this year with two scores of 7, Wells has scores of 8 and 5 for Rye. Morris meanwhile appears most fans guest op choice.

It's a danger to read things as you want than what was intended. The goading was rather pathetic and I stated so. I'm not going to keep explaining what I meant or what you thought I meant. The original comment I made I admitted was said in haste. Any other comments about certain Aces fans were inflamed by goading behaviour. I don't read my reply as likewise 'goading' in #461 just further infuriation. So hence no need to get into any further 'goading' discussions. Not anymore although I have no idea why you feel a need to PM me!

Which was my point. They are still good enough in the current watered down top flight.