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I have already said it's unclear what Richie said hence my added comment hence why Nigel apologised. I've listened to it 6 times and I still can't be sure what he said! so I'm more than happy to give him the benefit of the doubt if that's what you claim to be correct. There IS clear evidence the comment about Rob was made however if Tai is aware of it or heard it us unlikely to be concluded. It's clear that I question things I'm unsure of! Better read the comment above then.

I've replayed them several times as both times Nigel said apologies for any bad language. can't tell if Lemon is saying blo*dy or the F word, ditto Worrall. Discussed to death maybe but no clear evidence to support it wasn't swearing. I'm not looking for a rise in the slightest, I'm suggesting that in defence of the dreadful comment made (likely by one person) by one fan to Tai and the persistent barracking of him everytime he appeared he to got caught up in the 'cauldron atmosphere' so a little forgiveness all round sounds fair. All I was ever saying was that Tai had his reasons for the social media comment which wasn't great,nor were comments made from others mentioned either.

Did you miss my comment that the NSS is a step above any track in the country? Sky always make a big thing about coming to wolves because the racing is often good and consistent. I stand by that comment. Absolutely. Tight technical tracks aren't great to learn on unless you have some experience in your pocket.

no one knows what Woffy did or didn't hear. Maybe he was already riled by the excessive booing. Either way he had the last laugh. Aces fans/Aces fan.does it matter? Comment was despicable, the who are ya comments is going to wind anyone up. However the result is more important, wolves and Woffy won, Aces fans nil. Music to my ears! that's debatable, hence why it's still being discussed. He is, the fans at Cardiff proved that and will again next season. Must try harder. Just catching up with this meeting. All this talk about Woffy being unprofessional. Ht9 Richie Worrall swears when interviewed - very unprofessional. Ht10 Cook virtually storms across in front of PK on the 4th bend and could have been nasty if he clipped Peter yet behaves like a petulant child when it's done to him. Don't dish it if you can't take it back. Ht11 the belle Vue team manager swearing in an interview prior to the race. Even worse professional behaviour. Haven't yet heard any Wolves swearing.

Sorry no clutching at straws. I would defend any rider being 'attacked' in such a personal way. I have seen many riders giving the other sides fans verbal and hand gestures as it's the fan school gave created it in the first place! Tai like most riders are human. You drive a rider by barracking him to lose his cool you get what you deserve IMHO. Defend it all you want. If Tai chooses to see fans who boo him as scum then that is his perogative. Whether that is right or wrong is part of the reason why this discussion is on going I guess!

I'm not sure. Maybe he doesn't want to make the issue personal and is happy that booing is enough to make his comment. Are you honestly saying that pre racing and post racing when Tai is on the track with his helmet off that he WOULDN'T hear people shouting comments at him? I have no doubt he heard something that upset him hence the social media comment. There is no defending such comments either.

You must be asleep a lot when sky have shown meetings from wolves over the years then as several of them have been regarded as classics and a lot of visiting fans have made the same comments. You are kidding yourself if you believe Monmore hasn't offered thrillers down the years. The NSS is a step above everything else in the country I agree doesn't mean that wolves have not had superb racing and meetings this year tho.

He is probably too busy outing more people on public forums.

you got to him and you got what you deserved then! I made the comment about Cardiff, and yes you can be sure he will have by far the largest cheer in 2017. We don't know why he made his comment, booing and negative comments may all come under the same umbrella for Tai. If you take the booing and comments about his dad into account then it's a natural response. It seems the only ones who disagree are Aces fans and Taiwan haters, no real surprise there! But those fans mentioning his dad are scum so he was right saying it.

They would be a good addition but not in place of the EL's best prepared track. Wolves gives some of the best racing anywhere.

he had 1 season out. He took a year out from the EL a few years back and it didn't work so can't see him making the same mistake again.

bit like the classy comments from the aces fans about his dad. Tasteless. no he didn't but it's all only an opinion anyway. Exactly. There was a reason why he wasn't excluded for the same reason.

Of course chanting is part of an atmosphere. What was apparent that this was above and beyond regular chanting. If you keep goading someone and if the rumours are true that his late father was included in the abuse then it's no wonder he responded. Sometimes you really do get what you deserve (not aimed at you specifically just anyone that was part of the abuse). It seems clear to anyone watching the sky broadcast that there was obviously bad blood spilled out towards to Tai so it's no wonder he heard it.

nowhere near close. the difference is Tai is loved by many especially his British fans. The only cheers you ever see for the dirty dane is in Denmark. completely laughable. Darcy got worse each year until his ban was up. Short memory problem Lisa. The belle Vue fans giving him grief were equally as guilty then. Remember he was only calling a small section idi*ts so don't assume he was calling 'us' out unless you were one of them then my sympathy is limited.

if it had been Tai it would have given the haters more chance to hate. Poor manners by Cook. exactly. That's why the play offs are so good. Thank good we haven't got the usual misery moaning about them. Cook has not good enough to race abroad or in the GP syndrome.

hahaha wrong. the aces fans equally are a disgrace then. and in other news woffy will get huge support in Cardiff in 2017. no one can knock his achievements. Fully agree. Find the poor boy a dummy. Absolutely elated at the result. Well done the boys.

He is and often, sadly for the Aces fans just not Monday night.

You must be happy about his deserved ban like the vast majority of us then.

just another alias gone on a well earned holiday. Plenty more lurking in the wings. That has to be post of the year!

The truth is the Aces fans, like the Poole fans are being let down by a couple fans who don't want to debate but want to spew bile. It's pretty clear bar those few the majority of Aces fans have acted accordingly and layed the blame where it belongs.

Then maybe not even suggest something as ridiculous in an attempt to level the playing field in the first place, just a thought.

Class, wishing injury to 2 riders to make it fair.

only Jacobs was wobbling. It's voted for by referees and published tables in speedway star and plenty of fans agree. You are a disgrace to judge someone and name them. And I'm not surprised at your behaviour.

Last night wasn't great mainly because the aces had no fight. Monmore is a great race track, that's why it's been voted best prepared race track 4 out the past 5 years. Absolutely disgraceful comment. Has this forum reached a new low with this troll?

Except when they win there of course. The Pirates have won several times at Monmore in the past 6 years likewise the Aces have an excellent record at the Green too. It seems only when teams lose heavy there they suddenly have these problems with the track. rather convenient don't you think?