Bagpuss

Where's the British U21 Champion?

My God TV meeting threads are full of moaning and groaning. Certainly nowhere near the best NSS meeting you've seen due to the grippiness/recent rain but those last few heats were excellent. Still comfortably the best track in the UK if not the world.

In fairness I think the A17 eventually drains away your will to live.

So Buster hasn't received an offer for the club.

Of course it is, everybody should know that by now.

But everything to do with guests from rival teams. The discussion has developed.

Threads develop, that's how the forum works.

Indeed. And riders don't decide when to get injured, it just happens. Signing riders to replace the long term injured is the best way to fill the hole.

I wonder if part of the reason its so well attended and paid is because its so professionally run? Speedway in the UK has got worse and worse over the last two decades so I wonder if its linked to guests, doubling up, etc? I know people who don't go any more because they can't identify with their club as most of the riders race elsewhere in the UK as well. I'd disagree about it llbeing down the lost, its just as important as many other issues such as fixtures, tracks, admission fees etc.

But there wasn't a vacancy until the Play Offs, and there wouldn't have been one at all had Fricke not got injured in Poland! It was a situation which only came about because of his crash. It wasn't a move to try and make BV stronger for the Play Offs.

Cheers for that personally I'd call it constructve discussion. While I appreciate the points you make, for me the integrity of the competition trumps all of that. The Polish Extraliga is the best competition in terms of attendance and the way its run and when riders are injured they use R/R or a junior, no ifs or buts. No borrowing from a rival. Half the trouble with speedway in this country is that its run to appease the riders not the paying customers. Until that changes and the punter is put first and looked after much better the downward spiral will continue.

Put him on ignore if you're that bothered. He speaks more sense than the vast majority on here though, and can actually see the issues we have in the UK rather than burying his head in the sand.

Why is it wrong? He wasn't brought in to strengthen them, but to replace an injured rider. Wouldn't have been signed otherwise. Far more preferable than borrowing a rider from another club.

You'll have to explain to me @foreverblue why my reply was funny. It even went to court and was decided upon by an independant judge, which shows that the BSPL are so incompetent that they don't even know their own rules.

If its a signing replacing an injured rider who is out for the season then absolutely. You are obviously referring to Lambert last year, he wouldn't have been signed had Fricke not had his awful crash in Poland. Better than guests!

It is. Along with clay tracks, home tac subs and race jackets. I'm just turning into a grumpy old man But I care about British speedway and hate seeing it going down the pan by its own doing.

Yes I know but you miss the point.

Exactly. Poole get a good guest, Complin earns a few quid extra, everyone's a winner.....except those who value sporting integrity, some of whom probably don't go any more having walked away.

Plenty of other riders in the general vicinity who don't ride for a rival, Berwick and Edinburgh have NL sides after all. Its not a Poole thing, it's a massive problem generally. But while everyone's backs are getting scratched nothing will change.

Yes it would because I've said it before about other teams and other leagues. It happened earlier in the season when Jason Edwards guested for another team in Redcar's THREE TEAM trophy group! Bonkers. It's like an Arsenal player turning out for Man City last season because they had an injury and helping them win.

I don't know what the answer is but it's about sporting integrity for me. There must be a better way, particularly when replacing reserves. Plenty of unattached NL riders who could 'guest' for an injured number seven.

Makes no difference, shouldn't be able to happen regardless.

Nobody's fault cos its not against the rules & regs but how utterly ridiculous that a rider can guest for a team which his OWN CLUB is battling for top spot with. Farcical.

And we're all expected to turn up and pay £20+ for the privilege.

And Brian Griffin 1999-2001.