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Exactly, I'm fairly sure he wouldn't have done it if he didn't think the crowd would respond accordingly, it seemed like a two-way thing to me watching on tv, loved it. Not quite his namesake but I can remember Ken Eyre always having similar great rapport with the fans at Belle Vue, although I think Ken tended to limit it to a cheeky wave. I don't think he ever broke out of the reserve berth (could be wrong) but it didn't stop him being a real favourite back in the day. As for Barry Ayres, I don't recall him being so outgoing.

You pretty much did p*ss on the PL parade though, "thank God we have EL next week" (or similar). So he/she wasn't exactly putting words in your mouth. Not really, their holes are for diving into rather than through, Great comparison with the Championship v Premiership, much more honesty and graft, no superstars.. The Elite League people could learn so much from whatever Glasgow did to generate that crowd last night, was a real throwback to the halcyon days of the 70's, had me remembering the BLRC's @ Hyde Rd and seeing coachloads of noisy Scots turning up for their annual party. Well done Glasgow promotion, I didn't think there was a lot wrong with the racing either, not sure what some expect to see if they think that was rubbish, Fisher and Garcia were worth the admission price for their efforts and plenty of others gave their all. As for Ayres after ht 2, brilliant, the main stand crowd absolutely loved it and they are the ones shelling out their hard earned, it all added to a decent evening's entertainment.

Only if Gavan spanners for him, #dreamteam

Stop moaning, you've only just got here..

I've also had him e/w a few times in the last 12mths, unsurprisingly my account is in need of replenishment and I couldn't be bothered earlier tonight, so I'll join you in that club.. Still dead chuffed for him though.

Another top drawer speedway meeting for the cameras, considering the general lack of enthusiasm for that track it produced some close racing, riders all prepared to get stuck in. Well done Chris Harris, richly deserved rostrum place. Doyle quietly went about his work tonight and had the speed when it counted, well done to him.

Something amiss with his bike I think, seemed to lose power a couple of times.

Nice one, hope she has a quiet evening..

The more I see him ride and his demeanour when interviewed the more I think he reminds of PC at that age, so unassuming, confident but not cocky, really comes across well. Stream seems fine for me, no buffering, picture quality ok. Fricke or Lambert to win tonight I reckon.

It's just the only place to be seen these days.

Bit of info for those travelling any distance, "Fans travelling to Belle Vue for tonight's British Final please note that the Mancunian Way (A57) arterial road through the city centre is completely closed today for a carriageway inspection. This closure is affecting all major routes into and around Manchester therefore we strongly advise those attending to allow for plenty of time to factor this closure into their journey" .http://www.bellevueaces.co/newsitem.aspx?id=1770 Basically if you're travelling from the south then it would be best to come in from the Stockport/ Denton side in order to avoid the worst of the problems.

H&S dictates that people can't move around, otherwise capacities may be exceeded in certain areas which could cause overcrowding issues etc etc. I've always had a wander at most speedway stadia I've been to, it's good to watch from different areas. The grandstand @ NSS is all seated, there's no terracing paddock at the front at all, so I suppose it's understandable that you can't just saunter in there from the other stands. Best spot for me is the west terrace (first bend) but if it rains there is no shelter there.

Hard to call the pass of the night as yet but that one by Zagar showed he has balls of steel, cracking ride. Another great GP!!

Great to see Tai supporting England, great shirt lad, well done..

I've gone for Zagar e/w @ 14s, he went well in the last GP and seems to be flying in general, well worth a shout imo, here's hoping.

Many great nights for the BLRC and the place was always packed to the rafters, some 25,000 I believe. The British Final was held on a Weds night back then though and Brandon was also rammed every year as I recall. Perhaps next year and for the future it could be given the prestige of a Saturday meeting, also if the NSS is awarded any other big meetings like a gp or whatever they could have the British Final around the same time and get double the use out of the temporary seating they may have installed, keeps the costs down and allows for a proper full house if the interest is there. These things were just pie in the sky until recently but this track and stadium need to be used as often as possible and riders will be queuing up to get a spin round it I'm sure, so here's hoping for a cracking meeting for the final.

Try this link, should show you the plan, http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase edit, forget that, use this link and click buy World Cup tickets, then click choose your seat and it should take you to a plan of the stadium. wherever you decide to watch you won't be disappointed with the view I'm sure, although obviously the temp stand hasn't been built yet so nobody's tried it yet. http://www.bellevueaces.co/

In your opinion. I thought it was a great meeting and I nearly gave it a swerve as the racing @ Lakeside is normally boring. There was passing in the majority of races and plenty of times there were multiple passes within a race, I would have felt I'd had value for money if I'd attended. Anyway, how many races have you won round Lakeside??

Tbh I thought the crowd looks ok compared to the usual when Sky are there, then again I'm not there and it's hard to tell from the tv. I don't recall seeing anyone on the backstraight terrace before. Decent meeting anyway, best I can remember from Lakeside, plenty of passing, well done both teams.

Possibly because he doesn't seem to like closing the throttle, he won't have to round there.

Well I've only been once and I bought a ticket for the backstraight terrace, I ended up transferring to the grandstand although it wasn't easy and I suspect it's not something you can normally do. The grandstand facilities, catering etc are much better than on the backstraight but I suppose these will be improved as they go. I can't imagine there's a bad view from anywhere, you're close to the track wherever you stand/sit. I'm hoping that the first bend terrace will be open today, it appeals to me as a viewing spot, it's right next to the pits and looks like it will offer a cracking view of the first bend action. Parking seemed plentiful and was located just round the corner from the stadium (school) I think it was £3. Hope this helps, enjoy your first trip to the track. edit, I bought my ticket online and printed it before I set off (cos I'm loaded, apparently), so am unsure on purchasing at the track but I can't see a card being a problem.

It was indeed, I did a few early morning runs to Saddlebow back in the day, not the easiest journey back either what with bank holiday traffic. Just the same as any other online ticket purchase system. It's not obligatory, people are welcome to queue and buy them at the stadium. Seems like folk are running out of 'valid' reasons to have a go at BV, scraping the barrel there iainb.

I'd say that makes them complicated...... Full Definition of complicated 1: consisting of parts intricately combined <a complicated recipe> 2: difficult to analyze, understand, or explain <a complicated issue http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/complicated

I think it's always been the case on here that during meetings the scores aren't discussed, seems fair really as the updates site is there for the purpose and people put a lot of effort to it, just sayin'.

Smug, ok if that's how you see it, you're entitled to your opinion, which means I am too. My opinion is that you really are a prize plum, you keep on spouting the same old claptrap, you never acknowledge the actual words of the replies you get, instead you just carry on with you inane ramblings, rain this, rain that, well you've been given the facts about rainfall, so that's another of your theories killed stone dead. Truth of it is you're jealous, aren't you. Why can't you be like almost everyone else and be pleased for the Belle Vue (The most famous speedway club in the World) that they have been given the opportunity to operate from the National Speedway Stadium? Anyway, what about those rain facts you've been shown, any comment?