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Those tests plus the tests in 72 and 73 sweden v New Zealand are the biggest gates at Swindon i can remember i remember being gutted as Briggo did not ride in 72 just after Wembley.

Was it 12,000 plus in the USA tests? Penhall,Autrey, both Moran's Siggy,Schwartz, great days.

I was looking back and these are three of my favourite ever speedway moments at the great Hyde Rd circuit how good were PC and Mort there? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LxauiW5fb54 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkb3G7C4Qng https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=excw4fGxVbY

How about Jimmy Gooch ,Ronnie Genz,Tommy Roper? all riders i unfortunately only see ride a few times.

Humphrey do you believe in the cut your cloth notion? balance the books and except the big hitters are now unnaffordable.Have a lesser product but more entertaining and more value for money what's your take?

What about Mike Cake i remember one year, he went back to Exeter and scored 14 or 15 points from reserve what an unusual name.!

I actually think on the real issues you will be surprised as people i speak do not disagree on every issue.If anything they are all quite similar,most want the sport to improve certainly people like myself who could not give a hoot who wins and who does not have a win at all costs mentality.

What second rate! Eriksen is a thursday night class footballer.MJJ IS decent but Pawlicki is a better rider in my opinion and will prove it in years to come.

A good post and you have some great ideas, myself i don't even think about it now as things in Britain will never change not in my lifetime anyway.!

Will young Pawlicki be a GP regular and a future star what do people think? or is he like alot of young poles over the years overated and go on and underachieve.I rate the bloke highly the best young rider i have seen since Ward exciting to watch a real talent.

It could go along way if they the promoters listened to the public at times.The product generally is good , it always has been for me an outsider looking in would not work for me,as most other sports are not like speedway at all.It has to be a speedway man,E.Boocock,Pete Adams come to mind a couple of examples and there are others who could offer alot also.Get the rules sorted would be a start,scrap the tactical ride and get the EL and Premier league to work in tandem that would be a massive start.

But Keef he has got away with that for years a dirty sod ,but when the bully is opposed he soon goes back into his shell.!

I am sure he supported Newport and Bristol as well , both had Crumpy!! god how could you be a supporter at Cowley what a s...hole.

Can you say that though?the way the series was it was only six rounds rewarding being placed more than actually winning.Now if that was in place you would do well to reach the podium position i reckon.

Why does Auty never get five rides,? he does of course but hardly ever a heat 15.Heat 15 he is often overlooked is it his choice?who knows just seems others who have done no better always get heat 15..

For me the Carter/Penhall was a 50/ 50 incident Carter came off second best if he had excepted second he might of had a run off still for the title? i would of fancied him to win it.Carter could never except second,and even Lee said he thought at times he was dangerous and rode on the edge.Jessup i also thought was never world champion material,he often had good results by borrowing MIke Lee's aquipment was a rider i never really took to even though he was a class rider.

Thanks alot Ghostwalker i thought so,wanted to watch my lad play then shoot to the speedway won't bother travelling now gutted but my main reason to go was for the footy.

Thanks Ghostmaster a great weekly thread,i wondered if you could help me?On the 27th the day of the Swedish GP could i make it from watching a footy match in Eskinstuna at 3pm time and make it to the GP in time iif so how.?

It was not lucky,Mark did what he had to do and he is now in the roll of honour.But as others have said it was a flawed system he never won a GP that year but still won the title.Also in my memory in the old one off finals, i cannot remember any fluky winners even Szczakiel and Muller deserved to win there titles.Also generally all the greats won it at sometime or another,it did stand the test of time it was not broken.The GP series is a great product, but to be honest we all know it really only came in because it is a money spinner for SOME.A gravy train the sport as a whole does not benefit from this series but certain individuals do.

A great post and all of what you said is true to a point, the things i would say that went against certain riders i thought Jessup at times could of been more professional could of had a more professional set up.Carter had his flaws got the tyres wrong in 82,his Dad had the final say against Ivan's advice which cost him.Sigalos and Penhall were wealthy did it make a difference? Yes i think so Sanders was hot headed Leigh Adams what a rider a true pro unlike Pedersen who would take off his granny to win ok he has three titles but he does not hold a candle to Leigh in my opinion. Your ranking system is very interesting,and i was surprised that you said the 83 version of Sanders was better than anything Mort did.To the list you have named i would have to add Simmo,Crump(sen) and Adams to it.(no order).Carter no rostrum places, Simmo,one, Crump one, Sanders two, Adams two GP rostrum places one unplaced in the one off finals, Knudsen one rostrum, Jessup one rostrum, Sigalos one rostrum.How can you decide? very difficult, down to the individual, i would say though i would have Knudsen and Jessup at the bottom of that lot.

Great list Keef,Hitchy eh great value!

Spot on Falcace, very similar indeed,the difference is Sanders had two rostrum places it does not make his cv better though.My memory is before his terrible loss ,i just felt he had really raised his game and was only thirty years old, and would of been in the mix with the Danes for a few years.Only a feeling mind no Fact involved, going back to Mort what a great rider he was.People say about Ward now being exciting to watch me included,Chris was more exciting as a rider in my view worth the entrance fee alone his pass of Carter in the 83 NRC at Hyde Rd was legendary.

Morton not a chance he never ever had a chance at any given time to be world champion in my view.What a great rider though,great value at Hyde Rd superb not as good as PC though he would not be above any of those you have mentioned because of his gating.

Great to see Josh really going well again,i hope he pushes on and then gets his deserved EL slot back for next year.

Well yerropes i rarely disagree with you but on this subject certainly.No progress are you for real? i see him earlier in the season at the abbey he was superb.That side of things for him comes easy can he turn his life around? become a complete package it is up to him really does he want it anough? on the riding side not a problem for Darcy.