Steve Shovlar

Entertainment has been booked for the 70th anniversary event. Ricky Berwick on the flute

Not confirmed.

Quite simple solution to teams missing riders if they go to Swindon on a Thursday. If a team is missing one rider, Morris is replaced by a CL 6 pointer. If two, then Musiliak is replaced by a CL 6 pointer. Sorted!

Good point. You could say Leon Madsen is a better rider than Jason Doyle as he has a higher average than Doyle in the Polish Extraleague, and of course its raced over more heats to get the average.

I have been to his bistro in Padstow which is lower key and more relaxed dining. Very nice as well. Not tried the one in Sandbanks, frequented by Harry Redknapp, Graeme Souness etc.

OK. Compare their averages after two seasons. Morris at the end of his second season was 5.90. Kurtz at the same stage of his British career was 8.08. Now you argue that his average now is higher than Kurtz so he is the better rider, but there is much more to take into consideration.

But your view point along with Gavans is flawed. Who is the better rider? Zagar or Morris? Simple question. Anyone who knows anything about speedway knows that Zagar is. Yet his average is lower than Morris. He can come into the BV team on an eight. So do you really think Morris is a better rider than Zagar because his average is higher? Or for that matter that Kurtz is currently better than Zagar?

Guess its down to lifestyle? A nice evening meal out to a good standard restaurant will cost around £2-240 for 2 of us with wine. So 160 a couple seems ok providing the quality is there. I was in Padstow recently with a client and lunch cost £180 at Rick Steins restaurant. I guess some people on here think a Harvester or Beefeater is quality eating out!

Ave?

We are talking a Gala event with dress code to celebrate 70 years of Poole speedway. £80 ahead is not expensive for fine dining and a decent menu. We are not talking about chicken in a basket. £80 a head would be without wine and what you would pay for three courses at a decent restaurant. There's probably entertainment in the price as well.

How do you work that out? Genuine question.

Er, what on earth has that got to do with anything? Kurtz rode at 1, Morris was protected with easier rides. Swindon fans happy with Morris. Poole fans happy with Kurtz and a saving of the best part of a point. Morris unlikely to improve his average. Kurtz likely to add a point. Who is the best deal?

So would you choose Kurtz or Morris as your number one next season?

A lack of understanding of talent and ability. I have nothing against Morris but he is never a proper number one. Like I said earlier a Schlein at best. I don’t believe for one minute he will become a GP rider.

You clearly have an inability to spot fast rising talent. He has already surpassed Morris regardless of last years Premiership averages.

I should imagine every Polish Extraleague club has looked at Morris. No takers. It’s the Championship. Kurtz rides Extraleague in 2018. Is Morris even riding Polish league 1? I have nothing against Morris but I doubt he will go any further than the level he is at right now. Perhaps a Schlein level, not quite a Davey Watt.

Manc talk.

IMO Morris isn’t as good as Kurtz. Kurtz has far more potential which will be revealed in the next few years. Lets see what 2018 brings. But I would be suprised if Brady ends next season with a higher average than Morris. Interestingly Jason Crump in commentary today, when reading out a Morris tweet, said, “where are you, you should be here.” if a three times World Champion thinks Morris should be taking part in the Aussie Championships, perhaps he should be listening?

You have gone through several pairs of pants there. Your missus will be wondering what that other rancid smell is.

I will put that in my diary! Guess Poole at 11 am with Somerset 7.30.

How strange that a “new” poster makes these comments. It leads one to think he is someone in disguise. But regardless of that, there’s a thread in the international speedway section for the Aussie championships. It is an individual comp so very little to do with cluttering up the Poole threads. If you are a Belle Vue fan go celebrate Tungates win over there and leave this part so we can discuss just how good the 2018 Pirates team is shaping up.

Mondays. Belle Vue, Wolves, Leicester?, Rye House? Wednesday. Poole, Kings Lynn, Somerset, Swindon, (with a few Thursdays)

No Campton was nowhere near him. Agreed. It was Jack Holder. They touched on the apex and Kurtz came off. Fair call to rerun. Heat 20 Tungate clearly touched the tapes. Should have been out but ref bottled it. In rerun Tungate was far from hard but fair. If it had been on TV no one would have said the move fair. If he had done that to Kildemand you would know what would have happened. Kurtz should have just laid it down. It was a dirty move, premeditated as he looked twice to see where Kurtz was before piling into him.

I watched it and yes he fluffed the final. But really he could have laid it down in heat 20 and become Champ. In heat 20 Tv clearly showed Tungate touch the tapes, but the ref didn’t exclude him. In the rerun Tungate took a leaf straight out of NP’s book, took two looks, then battered into the side of Kurtz on lap 2 going down the straight. Kurtz somehow managed to stay on but his hand came off the handlebars and he could easily have fallen. Crump said in commentary that Kurtz did remarkably well to regain control. A lay down would have meant Tungate excluded and Kurtz as Champ. A very good meeting to watch and the streaming was excellent overall. I would certainly subscribe to a British version of this if there was no TV deal.

Good meeting. Well done to Tungate. Comisserations to Kurtz. Heat 20 Tungate lucky and dirty. The TV showed he touched the tapes and got away with it, then took two looks at Kurtz before riding into him. Brady should have laid it down for the title. Kurtz fluffed the start of the final and that was that. Excellent coverage from the streaming company and well worth the money. If there is no BT or Sky, a streaming service like this would be well worth subscribing to.