TheWellBehavedWorrall

No one said bonus points are meaningless or aren’t included in CMAs. Can we cut out all this nonsense and get back to the original point? He said Flint had a home average of 10.67 which is complete fabrication. He couldn’t even get his maximum correct; it was paid, not full. A post littered with incorrect information and odd observations, like his bike being dirty and him being gutted.

I don’t think so mate; he’s just dancing around reality. Let’s be honest, he’s told us he’s watched the meeting back and given us some incredibly insightful observations which include, but aren’t limited to, ”Leon Flint and his bike were caked in shale”, ”Leon Flint was gutted” and ”remember there were heavy showers that week”. That’s why I’ve asked him, if he isn’t blaming the track staff, then what exactly is his point?

According to ChatGPT, speedway can be saved through modernisation and digitalisation which I suppose BSN and individual clubs are doing through live streaming, but also shorter, punchier events. Having watched tractors go around Ashfield for around half an hour this season, I couldn’t agree more with that suggestion. Casual fans and families won’t entertain waiting. It also suggests a stronger online presences which I can understand, given club’s websites and social media pages are rarely up to date and live. It suggests dropping the two weak leagues and consolidating them to one bigger league, thus stopping doubling-up which it says is damaging identity and competition. Amongst many other things.

No, no, no. Don’t hide behind ”the Speedway Star said”. In no version of this universe is Leon Flint’s home average near 9, never mind 10. You’re wrong. Bonus points are paid figures that are used informally in reporting, but aren’t official race points and bear no impact on the match scores, nor a rider’s average. I can only assume your reference to them is an attempt at clutching at straws for Flint. Which is why I’ll once again ask, since you avoided it: if you’re not blaming the track staff, what exactly is your point?

If you aren’t blaming the track staff, what point are you trying to make? Also, I suggest you proof-read your data because it’s incorrect. We’ve contested four home fixtures this season, within which Flint scored 4+2, 8+1, 14+1 and 5+1. That does not generate a home average of 10.67; it’s closer to 7.70 or 8.50 if you include bonus points.

Between taking the points against us on Friday night and dismantling Redcar with ease last night, Poole haven’t half laid down a marker. Lawson was outstanding. His second, third and fourth rides were as textbook a win as you’re ever likely to see. Flying. Add Cairns to the mix and that’s a recipe for success.

Out of interest, why did you randomly decide to quote me and act malicious?

Lawson is flying. Huge 5-1 from Kerr and Cook a couple of races ago. Redcar are patched up, but Poole are a different class. Massively underestimated this season, including by me.

That’s the second time in two weeks you’ve quoted me and said this. 1. Stop following me around, you little creep. 2. It’s called having standards son. Something you’d have no idea about.😂 Another low IQ pleb.😂 I share my observations from the meeting and two members engage in constructive discussion, but one member - @TracksideView - asks if I need a cuddle, but it’s me who is childish? Tell me you’re unintelligent without telling me you’re unintelligent.😂

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Listen to your little friend with the perverted wink emoji, @TracksideView. The adults have finished discussing the topic of interacting with fans, so you can now speak. ”sOmEoNe gIvE HiM a hUg”.😂 Absolute child like behaviour.

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Take a seat, pal. Others have interacted productively on the topic. Leave the discussions to the intellects.

Several valid, constructive points made and this is the response, I assume from a grown adult. The definition of a low IQ response.

Nope. Straight back to the pits too. He didn’t even acknowledge the Poole fans standing beside the pit gate who, fair play to them, were passionate all night.

Well done to Poole for Friday night‘S result. That was a really professional performance. I thought Kerr and Thomsen were the match winners. Add Will Cairns to that - assuming he’s fit - and that would have been at least a 10 points victory for the Pirates. You were teased for your team building efforts, but some of you were correct: never write off the Pirates. One thing I would add - and I said this in the meeting topic - was that several of your riders were guilty of heading straight back to the pits after important wins. There were Pirates fans dotted all over the stadium, including a very visible bunch in the main stand with their flags; they’ve travelled a long way and deserve acknowledged by a lap of honour. Rowe passed Howarth in heat 5, then smoke Harris in his next, but both times, he went straight back to the pits. That’s so poor. You’ve just won two important heats and aren’t in the slightest bit arsed to even wave at the fans, never mind show a bit of passion. British speedway is on its backside, so the last thing it needs is big heat victories being treated like they’re nothing. I saw Tai Woffinden mention this on his social media, riders going straight back to the pits. Poor and disappointing.

A non-result related complaints I think it’s worth mentioning too. Is there a limit on track grading? Those tractors did more laps than Flint. That’s probably the biggest thing I’ve noticed since returning to the sport; the excessive volume of delays to accommodate track grading, but last night was brutal. Really poor to see so many Poole riders turn and go back into the pits without doing a lap of honour. There were Poole fans in the main stand and you couldn’t miss them with their flags. They’ve travelled a long way to see you secure an important win; acknowledge them. I’m not even a Poole fan and I thought that was poor. Anders Rowe passed Howarth in heat 4 then smoked Harris in his next one; straight back to the pits. Where’s the passion? It’s painful to see. Tai Woffinden was spot on; riders need to interact with fans, whether it’s on the track or after meetings. Last one: the person controlling the music at Ashfield needs replaced. I refuse to call him or her a DJ. A clash of the titans fixture in the Championship, first versus second, the 2023 champions against the 2024 champions and Rick Astley is playing over the tannoy. I felt like I was at 18th birthday party in 1985.

A bitterly disappointing result last night. Let’s not beat around the bush, our financial muscle and elaborate team building during the winter rendered us favourites for the title, so a home loss to a fellow challenger is a shambles of a result. Congratulations to Poole, of course. That was a professional and efficient performance. Flint was a disgrace. Chucking the towel in his first two rides was just as unacceptable as the 5-1 he conceded to Edwards and Starke in heat 12. You just knew he didn’t have it in him to give us any sort of hope in heat 14. Howarth was dreadful. Passed by Rowe in heat 4, passed by Thomsen in heat 5 and just one point across his two final rides; one of which was a last place in heat 13 which essentially clinched it for Poole. Nowhere near good enough. Watching Flint and Howarth be smoked around the outside by lesser away riders was utterly painful viewing. Dare I also say that had Boughen been riding, not Barker, then Poole would likely have secured victory earlier in the meeting. Cami Brown telling BSN he has ”no complaints” before complaining about the referee not excluding Starke for breaching the two minutes was brain damage. If you read this forum, Cami, you’re the team manager. The leader. You need to lead by example and demonstrate accountability, acknowledge where improvements are needed and focus on what we can control, like the other 14 heats where every rider had ample opportunity to contribute. It’s a long season and there is sufficient time for improvement, but those are the meetings markers are laid down.

A complete enigma. I’ve saw him almost lap Harris at Ashfield, then less then twelve months later, look terrified amongst under-21s on the same circuit. I’ve saw him win the opening heats at Armadale and Scunthorpe, but look like it’s the first time he’s ever sat on a speedway bike a few days later. Who knows what’s going on? It’s a complete guessing game, but I hope the club clarifies ASAP. Cami Brown insists on commenting on every rider in every single post-meeting interview, but last night, I saw no mention of Boughen.

Thompson found himself in that position to be judged because he had to take evasive action from Killeen. You can see from the picture below, Killeen’s veered three feet to his right from the start to the first bend. He was on one wheel with his head jerked back (which is why he’s looking up in this picture) and his left boot is in the air, mere inches from the first bend. Thompson’s read that; if he doesn’t take evasive action by cutting back, Killeen’s hitting him. As a result, he’s stepped in front of Foord who can do nothing other than nudge him. By the time Killeen’s deep in the first bend, he’s where those in gate three found themselves. Killeen hasn’t done anything illegal, but a lack of control on his part has subsequently cost Thompson, Ipswich and Glasgow, big time. Harris had to take similar evasive action against Polis at Ashfield last week. Fortunately, that didn’t put him in danger, but three seconds later, Polis and Howarth went down.

Exactly. I watched the meeting back again last night and yes, there were some decent races, but 50% of the field looked like maintaining control of their machines was a struggle. The standard is so poor. I’ll go back to heat four. If Luke Killeen is in control of his bike, Dan Thompson’s probably waking up as British Under-21 champion this morning. Killeen didn’t though and Thompson’s evasive action of cutting back has rewarded him with a broken wrist. Bitterly disappointing.

It’s a travesty there’s no international mechanism for proper punishment in these scenarios. What a complete scumbag move from Polis.

It’s a travesty there’s no international mechanism for proper punishment in these scenarios. What a complete scumbag move from Polis.

How can Polis just decide he doesn’t fancy riding in the UK, leaving Edinburgh snookered? Doesn’t speedway’s governing body - FIM, I believe - hold riders accountable for this sort of unprofessionalism?

Yeah, Cairns is a huge prospect. I’m looking forward to seeing how he does in the Championship with Poole. I don’t mean to be negative, but overall, I’m surprised by how poor the general standard is. Admittedly, I was on a lengthy hiatus from speedway, but I attended these meetings won by Scott Nicholls, Simon Stead with the likes of David Howe, Oliver Allen and Edward Kennett in amongst it. The standard was high, but today, I thought you could tell these were young boys; so much hesitancy and stiffness going round the bends. He didn’t, so it’s irrelevant, but had Dan Thompson not crashed, he’d have won that at an absolute canter this afternoon. The field used to be filled with Dan Thompson’s.