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Pretty sure it'll be on to the death tbh. We've not had any significant rain and everywhere is dry so only prolonged heavy showers will stop it. If they arrive I'll post about 2 but if I haven't then they haven't.

It's all sounding a bit doom and gloom so I'll keep quiet. What we really need is some postive spin from pp! Either that or another highly entertaining original H&S post from Dekker!

I agree, it sounds fair enough to me! "Of the Peterborough match, which was called off early on Saturday (July 19) at 11am but saw beautiful, sunny weather later that evening, Silver commented: “I make no bones about the fact that the weather was only half the reason for cancelling. “It was a terrible forecast there’s no doubt about that and it’s turned out to be false. “But I really didn’t want to run any more matches with our existing side until I’d got Mellgren and Greenwood in. “If the weather forecast had been good I would have run the meeting no matter what. “I had a forecast of 60 per cent chance of heavy thunderstorms from 11am to 9pm all over Hertfordshire and I had to take notice of that. “Because apart from the impact on the track itself, that’s never really the point. “If it’s raining all around us nobody comes to watch and we cannot afford to run a meeting in front of an empty stadium.” harlowstar

If the rules are clear, adhered to for all and decisions communicated properly then why do you need friends. That's irrelevant and only creates the conspiracy theories, laughable or not!

Because speedway rules are only guidelines to be considered before the matter is discussed behind closed doors and the brown paper bag slipped under the door as soon as the white smoke emanates from BSPA towers signalling that they've arrived at that day's decision!

On second thoughts

That's not strictly true although I agree that I'm not always the most positive person. If you'd been around since 2004 instead of just a year (perhaps you were here as someone else or just watching) then you'd know that being a Panthers fan (& yes I still go at the minute) and arguments frequently come with the territory, more often than not resulting in sticking up for the club and owners against logic and with few facts. I'm here because that's where we've ended up although I'm not sure how that happened or where speedway in general is going? That doesn't help my mood. If you want fluffy bunny then Facebook might be a better option, that's one place I don't go.

Everyone likes a quiz though so it's not difficult to get a response is it, and FP likes anyone who has a go at me even though he doesn't understand the question.

Pointless post of the day award winner.

I hope that you've got fat fingers and meant to type FLETCH.

Reminds me of a post on the Cardiff GP thread about it being a million miles from reality if you visit one of the tracks up and down the country as Pearson pontificates, based on that experience, or visit the EoES after getting in for a fiver on a well attended swiftly run Sky night! It's rarely that good and needs some work.

I'm sure Chris will elaborate on the stresses issue. There's no i in team but there is in the match winner Nicki Barrett so take a bow young man!

I'd have a bet if I was you, try and get some losings back or increase them

I know, I've rarely missed up until this season although I'm losing interest but still attending. I couldn't be bothered to get into discussion with a bloke who didn't see what I saw, or most home and visiting fans (didn't really need an agenda early doors) saw come to that, as well as ignoring what Rick said on the subject.

That's true but I think "dancing" was the keyword if that is indeed what he was doing.

We've branched out into alternative physiotherapy you do at your own pace.

"Berwick racer David Bellego will now guest for Dryml while Panthers will use rider replacement to cover for Fisher." Panthersweb

Don't know where 2400 came from because that's totally unrealistic (pick a number like season ticket sales). I'm sure that I'd have seen it if it was said? If that team was expensive then he really was getting bad advice. They were disastrous because the team was half fit, came in cold & got turned over first night by that lot from the bird cage and then we never took decisive action to stop the slide as Frost admitted he should have done.

2006 was midweek and Horton made a shedful with a decent product and decent presentation. From June of 2013 fixtures were all over the place but with decent product and presentation Frost added: “Crowd levels were disastrous in the first part of the season (more Friday). They went up as the team began to perform well." I doubt that you'd get consistent Friday's at the EoES these days anyway which brings us back to will PL speedway, which nobody outside of the sport can relate to these days IMO (The SGP, SEC, Sweden, Sky etc is what they see), balance the books in a more fragmented fixture list? I think that we'd soon be having a discussion about why it isn't working?

No I wasn't there but was going by what opposition fans kept saying which seems to agree with Frost but disagree with you? "Frost revealed that crowds at the Showground only averaged around 800 during last season (2009) and admits that is barely half of the figure required for the club to break even (1500)." "Peterborough Panthers bosses have admitted that attendance figures have fallen during the 2012 season." "Panthers are nowhere near to meeting their break-even requirement of average crowds of 2,000 (2012)" That's what you get for no success, signing Bjerre year on year and giving Swindon the 2012 title! There seems to be something there about lack of success increasing the break even figure exponentially so 2400 might be right although I never saw that. So you think that the Tuesday production on a Friday will solve the problem? How many Fridays did MH have during his first tenure?

Last season, in what some would say was a proper league with proper on the whole presentation, Panthers started off with 4 straight Fridays, followed by Poole with the world champion on a Thursday and a B/H Monday fixture against the Bees - so that took us to the end of May and - Frost added: “Crowd levels were disastrous in the first part of the season. They went up as the team began to perform well." Think you're getting carried away with the pulling power of moving what we have on Tuesday to a Friday.

To be fair to Rick and Julie they did get more Fridays in the calendar than many had been able to in the last 10 years but the end result was the same. It's still what you (as well as what the useless rules allow) and the visitors are allowed to put on track and how it's presented. Simple equation and we thank those who put their money and time into making it happen.

That's the double whammy isn't it (as well as Leicester down the road) or a triple if they win the EL, although the 2014 EL title will be like Foinavon winning the 1967 Grand National

But that's the use it or lose it negativity which just evades the question and doesn't solve anything. No speedway fan in their right mind or the establishment wants to lose a great track and facilities but you can't just expect people to turn up because it's there. That's enough for the few hundred but it's the others that are the problem.