Crump99

Perhaps poor was the wrong word but I like to see a racers track, which we've had a couple of times this year but that wasn't it. Each to their own I suppose. It's always good to have a volunteer to put the lights out at the end. Talking of lights, it was certainly something to see Tungate flying down the back straight in the dark with only on 4th bend lighting pole on

Don't think that he was having a go, just pointing out the facts about how poor it was last night.

This is where Johnson looked a bit silly with his comments because it was like that for the first part of the season but then settled down for a couple of excellent meetings when they took the speed out but then yesterday produced a track without speed and no outside line. When a home rider is chasing a back wheel going into turn 1 and chooses the Ryan Sullivan outside run, only to come out of turn 2 about 5 bike lengths behind then that tells you all you need to know. What's worse is that when we made a gate then numerous times we went mid track or outside going backwards to wave the opposition through. 7 heat wins v 8 should not bring a 13 point defeat on your own shale.

No I doubt it. It's been the same for years in that infrequency of meetings means that unless it's 2 or 3 meetings in a week or 10 days then it's just pot luck what it turns out like. More often than not it'll be slick and the home side look like strangers for 8 heats as they did once again.

I've not commented on this yet outside of my own forum so how cheery should I be given that the Chris Harris select roll into town to plunder the points yet again and the management team (yes I'll call them that because I've no idea what anyone does apart from Johnson being the mouthpiece) serve up the next different circuit which Panthers (mostly slow starting or not bright enough to ride the white line or thereabouts on turn one) can't race on. on June 26 Johnson added: “The track is getting better and better with every meeting that goes by. “It’s fast but it’s also exciting and I don’t think anyone could have any complaints about what they’ve seen here this season.” As a semi retired keyboard warrior without a clue, last night generally: track, presentation and atmosphere was thoroughly depressing and that view is based on many more years as a fan than he's seen as a manager/promoter. Rant over, for now

What's your latest count? Is it one Kings Lynn type hand count or two? Either way, it's hardly a significant number these days

Well after a rocky gate and go start at Chapman's EoES circuit where a fast time seemed to be the indicator of quality, things have settled down and the last three meetings have produced some of the best racing you'll see anywhere. The only bit that affects us is not enough racing but that's pretty standard for us over the last 15 years. Individuals outside of the GP don't interest me and without significant finance to focus rider's minds (which speedway doesn't have and would only use unwisely if it did) then a cheapo GP inspired format would be doomed to failure IMO.

No idea, but just send out the two riders that you want and make sure at tapes that the ref spots the change, then it's up to him to to find out why he wasn't informed.

Added to that, I'd seen 15 heats, stood in the emptied stand for the victory parade, walked to the car and driven home 10 miles to the other side of Peterborough and was out walking the dog at 9.30pm. You can certainly compare that to Monday

No you're probably right. I was just trying to make sense of it quickly, late at night using Panthers website - fatal mistake to make the reply accurate. I just turn up these days at the EoES and don't pay as much attention as I once used to. The point stands though that there are not many fixtures left in 2019 and this is far from the worst meeting to be seen so unless finances or other factors are a huge problem then make the most of it would be my advice to any waverers.

I'd make the most of it. It might only be June but we've only 4 programmed league fixtures left after this, with one also to re-arrange, and the humongous gap of Jul 15 to Sept 2 without any speedway and who knows what happens after that.

Andersen says that he's having a skid on Tuesday so whether he'll risk it again (no good if he has to pull out again)? Hans Andersen@Hansi_Andersen (17/6/19) Injury update the arm & shoulder has regained full movement and is hardly causing any pain doing daily use still lacking a bit of strength in some positions BUT will have a skid tomorrow to test my fitness

Broken collar bone is potentially much less troublesome and easier to fix than a broken shoulder so Andersen was never really realistic. He's not in his 20s when things mend quicker. As for Wilson-Dean, let's hope it's not the shoulder messed about in September when he apparently had a shoulder operation, involving the removal of a plate and nine screws. A simple collar bone break is possible to come back quickly from although not the best idea but they need to earn.

The Jokes section is further down the board and that's a good one I might add

I agree. The point you're missing is that sometimes it's better just to read, chuckle and move on

If you choose to post and/or quote then expect a response, it's not rocket science.

Thought I said it before a wheel was turned.: no hindsight in sight. I was also right about the last bit going by your previous post:

1. Hans Andersen R/R (BWD 0) (AS 1') (CW 0) (SN 2) You were saying!

4 pages, how many posts are there and how many are not speedway related?

Polls close at 10pm though getting washed, dressed and outside so early in the day might be a bit of an issue for the Corbynistas. Tbh you'd be better mobilising for the next GE because Jezza's shambles of a party are scheduled to get less seats than a rudderless Tory party currently in self destruct mode. Sorry speedway fans: "a little bit of politics" as Ben Elton would say. This would have been interesting but the loss of Andersen for Panthers without suitable replacement has killed it but should enable Chapman's Witches fans to travel home happy.

Brexit Party 1/6 - Labour 5/1: I think that Foxhole will be more fun

He can certainly come back unfit and do more damage in 2 weeks that's for sure. Noodles has the medical figure but speedway riders are an unusual breed so a bit of strapping and couple of paracetomol should do it.

I'll open it up again just in case something crops up. That'll keep our select merry band of men, and couple of ladies happy. Also can't miss Hodgy's Saturday pound

Who ran your course, David Brent ("Never do today that which will become someone else's responsibility tomorrow")

And another thing while you're on Did you read this: "one of the better sound systems in British speedway" Before we got the improved sound system and I used to moan about those speakers at the back and the crap sound levels, you weren't having any of it and always said that it was my ears