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Thanks - always interesting to hear the perspective of the management. I'm a neutral - if anything I have a slight Glasgow bias between the two teams involved. I just don't like a decision to award a meeting after 9 races - I feel it could set a dangerous precedent. All the best Rob

32-19 after 8 races. Meaning a final score of 39-54 was still possible. Therefore it was wrong to award the result of the meeting. In 2014, Scunny were leading Sheffield 30-18 after 8 races when it was abandoned. It wasn't long before the play-off deadline, but the club took it on the chin, reached the play-offs and restaged the Sheffield meeting at the end of the season. Awarding results before Heat 10 has been completed is simply wrong. That night that Coventry called off the meeting after 8 races and yet the result was declared. I trust the fans were compensated for heat 10 having not been reached? All the best Rob

Penhall 1981 Gundersen 1985 Nielsen 1987 Gundersen 1988 Nielsen 1989 Jonsson 1990 Pedersen 1991 Nielsen 1995 Woffinden 2013 Not counting Rickardsson 2005 or Crump 2006, when I saw the final round, but they'd already clinched the title by then. All the best Rob

Agreed. It sets a very dangerous precedent. Heat 10 had not been concluded. How long before a meeting is awarded that only takes place over 8 or 7 or even 6 races? You can argue that Redcar had no riders left in Heat 10. But you could also argue that five 5-1s to Redcar in Heats 11 to 15 and the final score would be 49-42. There’s a clear cut-off of 10 races. If that’s not reached, then the only other way a result should be awarded is if a team could not be caught over 15 races, not 10 races. For example, if the scoreline was 45-9 after nine races, that could be awarded. Nothing was settled in the Redcar v Glasgow match. It should be re-run. All the best Rob

Ah, so you put your moral outrage to one side when the rider was being allowed to join your club. I thought that might be the case. All the best Rob (Cyclone, I can't be bothered. You're too boring and repetitive).

So.... if someone looked back to your 2008 posts on here, would they find you morally outraged about Hans Andersen being able to join Coventry after a 14-day-ban rather than a 28-day-ban, or would they find you saying "Welcome to Brandon, Hans!!" All the best Rob

So you're now admitting that there has been a 14-day ban option all along Yes, for Andersen, I believe it was initially announced as 28 days, than reduced to 14, because the rider was willing and able to return. So another precedent in terms of what has happened with Josh Auty. All the best Rob

Tomasz Piszcz and Hans Andersen are another couple of riders. I could produce a big, long list of them, but what's the point. 14 or 28 days are clearly both options. Facility to Scunthorpe was for 28 days. Rider can return (to same club) after 14 days. All the best Rob

Was he on the MC when Peterborough's Hans Andersen was handed a 14-day-ban rather than a 28-day-ban in 2008? All the best Rob

Reading that, Pavlic only agreed to return after the 28-day-facility had expired. Had he wished to, he could have returned within 14 days, which would have been the actual length of his ban. Star Lady, well I’d never leave you waiting for a reply It’s because it’s the comparable example where a rider hasn’t switched clubs, but has actually remained with his original club, and where the original club wants him back and where the rider wants to come back. Which isn’t your typical example. Of course, it happens less often, so people are more used to seeing the 28-day-ban. But both 28 and 14 days have been about in the same years. Let’s take 2005. Klymakorpi moves from Peterborough to Coventry, Peterborough are given a 28-day-facility in order to replace him, and therefore he can’t appear for Bees until that facility is expired. And yet what the Henka Gustafsson example from later that year demonstrates is that had Klymakorpi wanted to return to Peterborough rather than move elsewhere, then he could have do so within 14 days. All the best Rob

But it's not the way it's always worked, is it? How many days was Henka Gustafsson banned for in 2005? Simply answer me that question. It will give you a clue how long a 14-day-ban has been in place. All the best Rob

You're confusing a rider wanting to join another club, and a rider returning to the same club. When a rider returns to the same club, it's 14 days. This hasn't been just invented. Take a look back what happened with Henka at Oxford in 2005. Admit it, you got it wrong, and confused two different situations. All the best Rob

He has been banned. But SCB made a mistake in the first post of this thread. A ban is for 14 days, not 28. It has been since at least 2005. It hasn't suddenly been invented. All the best Rob

Ban is 14 days. It has been since at least 2005, when Henka was banned for 14 days when he rode for Sweden (his hometown club were facing relegation) above an Oxford meeting. Was 14 days then, is still 14 days then. All the best Rob

R/R for tomorrow as already announced. All the best Rob

SCORPIONS SET TO NAME NEW RIDER HENDERSON INSURANCE Scunthorpe Scorpions’ promoter Rob Godfrey will reveal the rider to replace the retired Josh Auty – from the centre green of the Eddie Wright Raceway! Godfrey will name his new signing during tomorrow’s (Sunday) Knockout Cup clash between Scorpions and Peterborough Panthers (start-time 5.30pm). He says: “I always like our loyal supporters to know the news first. “The plan is to announce the replacement for Josh Auty during the parade during the Scorpions v Peterborough meeting.”

Disagree. The cream always rises to the top. When they tightened up on the rules on tape touching (previously you were only excluded for actually breaking the tapes) in the mid-to-late 80s, first at British domestic level and then at FIM level, the same riders were still at the top. Mauger would have been a multiple World Champion whatever the rules. All the best Rob

I think it has to count doesn't it? It was a competitive meeting, despite the age of the competitors! In my case, that's how I can count Fundin and Briggs. All the best Rob

R/R + Nathan Greaves. Greaves is probably the best guest out there to use in place of Josh Bailey. All the best Rob

RIP Bryan Seery, the compiler of the page of the Speedway Star that I always used to read first! All the best Rob

Oxford 1986 - the only team with a 100% BL record: Hans Nielsen Simon Wigg Marvyn Cox Andy Grahame Per Sorensen Nigel De'ath Jon Surman All the best Rob

Neil, yeah maybe, but no sign of Leicester starting any time soon. And if it takes place on a very heavy track, there's every reason to suspect it might take a while to get through. 'Tis a forum, so this is the place to discuss any "what if's..." All the best Rob

Leicester hasn't stated yet. If it does take place, I can't see how Bomber can now do both meetings. In that case, I assume Peterborough have to do one of the following: 1. Use a junior replacement for Bomber 2. Revert back to their previous 1-7 and use R/R for Hansen. All the best Rob

That was one year earlier in 2006. Glad when we kicked out Rickardsson two weeks early and brought in Todd Wiltshire, who actually wanted to ride for us and was willing to help out the rest of the team. All the best Rob

From an Oxford perspective, probably the 2007 EL team before it went t*ts up. Massive and depressing home defeats to Coventry, Poole and Swindon. The 2007 season started on a massive low with the EL team, then we had a CL team which was like a phoenix from the flames and was hugely enjoyable and included one of my favourite meetings of all-time (the sheer drama of the play-off semi vs Plymouth), then the bombshell in November after the season ended. All the best Rob