phillwhitewasmad

We have raced against Patrick he's a talented young rider , hoping to go up against him again this year on the 250s.

Yep there is going to be a rising star programme and speedway will, start in may and they are considering Plymouth moving into the league.

It's this thread about page 6

Which rider is that then do tell

1 is a rider who has done National league but not championship

As I understand it for team building purposes minimum is a 2 so if a team have a 1 star it's still counts as 2 example jordan and joe and Dan

Big hitter coming so I'm lead to believe

Unfortunately you may be right there but only time will tell. Personally I hope it does work and the full 5 years are seen out

fun is the main thing its a journey we are enjoying and if it happens it happens and if it dosent then so be it . its only speedway at the end of the day

draft is for 2022

no you understand it correctly

we dont have to accept the draft pick from them as per the set criteria

only time will tell I,m under no illusions as to what could happen at least I,m safe in the knowledge that we wont have to go to edinburgh or plymouth . until riders accept that the lower levels of speedway in the uk are a paid hobby we will continue to struggle. Also riders do not have to accept the equal set money deals they can if the decide to drop out of the scheme and do there own deals and in fairness as you will see from my posts i say it as i see it so if its crap i will say so

No the point is that certain teams namely Eastbourne and Glasgow insisted that teams were ever possible should remain the same so the starting point was that . So with Eastbourne having a 3 and 4 star riders already in for 2020 they could remain for 2021 .Newcastle and Redcar had to make changes anyway because of riders not coming back Riss was known well before the announcement the two foreigners at Newcastle had said weeks before so not in the equation for team changes under rising star programme. As previously said poole had to change due to 2 Aussie riders at reserve and Edinburgh because of not having a British rider who met the criteria. I don't understand why people are concerned about 2021 as it is just an expansion of 2020. Let's see what 2022 brings . the list is finalised for this year as teams were picked 20 months ago ps all promoters vote for this not just the directors

Is it me dave or are people getting this wrong. The grading was done so every team could keep there's for 2021 if they had a young British rider at reserve. The main change will be for 2022 when 2 have to be used and some riders on list potentially will either leave it due to success or decide it's not for them

Is based on the average they have at the present time . There had to be a line and unfortunately one is one side of it and another is the other side. It is an anomaly but if exceptions were made to start it there would be a case for loads of riders to moan about their grading. To me it's pretty fair but only time will tell

Drew's a 3 Kyle is 4

No Tsunami is correct

Due to riders average at time of selection for the scheme

Yep or decide to retain him if progressing well. My hope is that teams who have a rider who progresses well enough to move out of the system because of experience or averages is kept on in the main body rather than being replaced the following year for a foreign rider just to increase the asset base.

In fairness he probably signed prior to the announcement and did so in good faith. Also if has signed as an asset there's nothing to stop him riding for them at some point in the future. To be honest though why would a young rider sign for any club as an asset unless they have something tangible offer or promise in front of them. it's going to be difficult for many riders who want to ride at a specific track but end up elsewhere. unfortunately if British speedway doesn't protect the places now it never will. Lots of riders and parents have constantly asked for more help and protection and now it's here people are moaning because some riders may have to go somewhere they don't want to be.

There is nothing to say a rider has to get to the next star in a season bu there is a time and age limit on it at this moment. As I understand it once a rider has completed a minimum amount of years in he professional leagues he will lose the star grading protection of riding at reserve. National league is not classed as professional as I understand it

Yes there is no protection of your preference on place you want to ride . It's the places they are protecting so if a team has first pick in the draft system and pick rider A he can then decide if he wants to accept or not . If the rider says no the place shall remain open to another rising star and rider A drops out of the scheme. There is no deal to do other than travel money as points payment is set. I would suggest though that prior to any announcement a team would of approached a rider before hand to make sure he's happy going there .

yes i know that and understand it but they are offering to protect the position for scheme members its up to the rider as to whether they accept it. why should a rider who accepts all the terms and conditions of the scheme which are numerous be overlooked just because another rider dosent want to join it because his draft track isnt near to home. for me its a positive step granted their could be some riders who end up having to travel further than they wanted but its the tough harsh reality your not barred from riding just taking up rising star positions a rider can still ply their trade in national league to help them get to a level where they can get a 1 to 5 place. it a harder route but its a personal decision .

you only need enough riders to cover the championship so would depend on number of teams so for arguments sake 10 teams 20 riders the best of which will double up to the premiership. after that i assume some will stay as rising stars and others will either no longer fit the criteria or decide to no longer be part of it. so can see at least 10 being required the following year and so on. with the volume of riders on the list already and those coming through i do believe a 5 year plan is achievable but only time will tell.